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eloise b

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This is just my thoughts but i think he was a consequence of the bbc's past inaction,because of their many previous failings they had to be seen to be doing something and i think scott was collateral damage.
 
Merpedy

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Bread said:
possibly by the dodgy journalist?
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I think that's a stretch - if they had evidence of new information involving the same person but different allegations then really it could have only come from very few parties with direct involvement somehow, not a journalist
 
artnouveau

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VeniVidiVicki said:
I don’t know if he’s guilty or not but the CPS deciding there is no enough evidence to feasibly secure a conviction is not ‘essentially cleared’. The alleged victim didn’t go to the police until 15 years after the time. I would imagine securing a conviction when digital media wasn’t a thing would be incredibly difficult. How do you provide evidence?
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Borbora

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pixxyy said:
I dont think anyone has said anything about a massive age gap in regards to Scott and the alleged victim
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Do you know what you're replying to? The whole discussion is because i didn't think it was right to keep refering to the victim as a boy, when the victim and SM are both 40+
 
GingerJones50

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Borbora said:
I meant that talking about a 15/24 incident as a 15/50 incident would undermine any new victims that came forward that actually had a 15/50 incident
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It doesn’t seem there are any other victims. The article that was written at the time said police thought they had identified other potential victims (possibly from information given by the person who made the first allegation), but it seems nothing was turned up in that investigation and there is only one person making allegations.
 
GingerJones50

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Happy Alpaca said:
This confuses me (screenshot attached). At the top it says the BBC knew about the police interview in 2018, but later it states that Tony Hall Director General did not know about the allegations.

Do they just mean Tony didn't know the detail, as surely he would know if staff were being interviewed as part of Winter Key, or they were asked to declare it.

Re the BBC knowing.......who at the BBC? It seems purposely vague, but definitely trying to exclude Tony Hall of having any knowledge. Which is strange to me.

The second screenshot mentions others being recently interviewed as well as SM, in relation to his 2017 police interview. There could be key info in something one of these people said to the BBC, that SM hadn't declared.
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I would guess that it was escalated but at some point someone decided that they didn’t need to escalate it further. So maybe it went to the Head of Radio 1 and they dealt with it and didn’t pass it on. It does say he didn’t know rather than didn’t know the details. Maybe because he wasn’t as high profile a decade ago they didn’t feel it was necessary.
 
Periwinkleblue

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Notworthy said:
In the eyes of the law he's committed no crime, was never even charged let alone convicted. Not true, he hasn't been charged because there isn't enough evidence to justify a charge at this time, that could change.
Things have changed in the last few years, there's a lot that would have been either considered aceptable to the BBC or worth overlooking even 10 years ago that no longer are.
Someone new has come in, looked at this and thought nope, not acceptable.
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Sorry you're saying it's not true that in legal terms he's not committed a crime?

Can you explain this?

What country do you live in? In the UK a criminal record can include a caution, an arrest, a charge or a conviction. A crime is deemed to have been committed if a person is convicted.

Being questioned by police is not any of these things.

I'm interested to hear how it all works wherever you live (which is in your own head).
 
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GingerJones50 said:
I’m not getting any result through that link so maybe the story has been pulled? The DM reporting has been absolutely appalling on this. Last week they confidently claimed Mills had been sacked because he hadn’t told the BBC about the police investigation which the BBC has confirmed was untrue.

The best reporting on this seems to be coming from the Mirror, evrn though I don’t usually rate thrm.
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I've just checked on DM and the story is still there, I found the story of SM no longer suppoting Boyzone gig and it was one of the headlines linked on that page, it behind a paywall but its still there;
Why Scott Mills' accuser came forward, the fall-out for his celebrity friends, 'trouble' around booze and the anger, wailing and devastation inside Radio 2. Insiders tell all to KATIE HIND