What the actual duck is this???!
What the actual duck is this???!
are you actually for real? he was NOT “essentially cleared”, do you know how hard it is for historical SA cases to go to court? the police believed they had enough evidence for a conviction but the CPS turned it down, which is very very common unfortunately. It does NOT mean someone is “cleared”.I don’t think this is why people don’t come forward. There is no legal case against him. There is genuine shock in the industry because he is universally well liked. That’s not to say that he can’t be guilty of something but he was essentially cleared. It seems to me like the person who made the allegations has come forward strongly since the huw Edwards drama and they have shat the bed about it.
There is not enough evidence yet. Every single wrong ‘in in the past has made complete sense. Saville was so obvious - the man could not look like more of a PDF. Russel brand, David walliams, even Rolf Harris have always given me the ick. Scott mills it just doesn’t make sense. There also needs to be some space to consider that this person may be making false allegations. Most of my male gay friends were sexually active from a young age. That’s not to excuse someone in their 20s knowingly going after them but to say these relationships happened. My female friend dated a 25 year old when she was 15 and while I found it totally gross at the time (he was a twit to boot), she would argue that she knew exactly what she was doing. If he was a public figure that she was now trying to take down, I’m not sure that I would think it fair unless he showed that pattern of behaviour. It will be k treating to see if any other claims come out.
Parasocial insanity.What the actual duck is this???!
It's a discussion forum. People are discussing the current known facts of the case, as they were with the HE case. People will have opinions based on what they currently know, which is very little. There's no right or wrong in terms of discussion imo and opinions can and will change as more information comes out, which is expected and normal. There's a lot of moral tone policing taking place imoThis means jack tit. Look at all the industry people that came out in defence of “poor Huw Edwards” before they knew more. Jon Sopel and Jeremy Vine to name two of them.
This thread reminds me of the early days of the Huw Edwards scandal. Although less busy and fewer bum pics. But very much ‘this seems too harsh, he’s not been charged with anything, maybe it’s false allegations’.
If SM has been unfairly dismissed, then he has legal options he can take. But I expect BBC won’t have taken this decision lightly and whatever evidence they have is substantial enough to justify such a swift decision. It might not meet criminal standards but it doesn’t need to. And I’m glad employers don’t need criminal standards of proof before sacking people for poor conduct.
I’m not trying to police anyone’s tone or shut down discussion. I’m pointing out a pattern that tends to happen whenever a story like this breaks, Huw Edwards being the most recent example, both here and in the wider media.It's a discussion forum. People are discussing the current known facts of the case, as they were with the HE case. People will have opinions based on what they currently know, which is very little. There's no right or wrong in terms of discussion imo and opinions can and will change as more information comes out, which is expected and normal. There's a lot of moral tone policing taking place imo
But he wasn’t ’essentially cleared’. That’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of fact.It's a discussion forum. People are discussing the current known facts of the case, as they were with the HE case. People will have opinions based on what they currently know, which is very little. There's no right or wrong in terms of discussion imo and opinions can and will change as more information comes out, which is expected and normal. There's a lot of moral tone policing taking place imo
I never stated he wasBut he wasn’t ’essentially cleared’. That’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of fact.
Gross isn’t it! I’m really shocked by some posters and the excuses they are coming up with. Scott may be entirely innocent but trying to excuse what he ‘may’ have done, is revolting.Can’t believe how many sympathisers are on here, backing Scott. This is exactly why people don’t come forward. Disgusting.
Sorry got my quotes muddled! I thought @Tofino had quoted the person who said he was.I never stated he was
You’re wrong. Yes can send the case to the CPS about pressing charges but ONLY after the person concerned is arrested. If they’re not arrested they can only consult them for advice. If that advice is ‘we would need more evidence to press charges’ then that doesn’t mean the police have to close the case, it means they can decide whether the evidence they have is strong enough to warrant further investigation or if the evidence is so weak it doesn’t warrant further investigation like searches, interviewing witnesses or further questioning of the accused person. The fact the evidence was never even strong enough to warrant his arrest indicates it was a very weak case.This is entirely wrong. The police can, and do send cases to the CPS for sexual offences. It's actually quite common, especially with historic cases. It can sometimes be for advice on charging but with historic cases it's usually because there isn't going to be a compelling amount of physical evidence.
It bleeping annoys me when people come on these threads and start spouting utter bull with such authority.
exactly, i wonder if they’d try and make the same excuses if it had happened to their brother/sister etcGross isn’t it! I’m really shocked by some posters and the excuses they are coming up with. Scott may be entirely innocent but trying to excuse what he ‘may’ have done, is revolting.
Nobody is saying that’s okay if he did it. But it was investigated by the police and he wasn’t prosecuted. He’s not been convicted of anything but because the BBC had a knee jerk reaction, hysterics like you are pranding him a pweirdo over something that may well never have happened.Wow a lot of you are really trying to make excuses for the fact that he was involved with a CHILD. And by involved I mean groomed/abused. I don’t care how many years ago it was. That’s ducked UP.
How it is hysterical to understand that most cases of SA/grape are dismissed without charge even though the perpetrator is guilty? I found it really weird that you will be on the side of he’s innocent when he’s been FIRED for it.Nobody is saying that’s okay if he did it. But it was investigated by the police and he wasn’t prosecuted. He’s not been convicted of anything but because the BBC had a knee jerk reaction, hysterics like you are pranding him a pweirdo over something that may well never have happened.
The BBC are going to haemorrhage staff over this. They’ve created a situation where any fixated person or nutter can make allegations against their staff and they’ll sack them and throw them to the pitchfork mob like you and ruin their loves, even if nobody is sure they actually did what’s alleged.
No they've just taken the plaque off the wall. I don't think it ever had a name before, it was just the bridge over the M3 at the services. They might think it's too risky to name it again!Has the bridge been renamed or just taken his name off?