completely agree, no one but a parent should get a child’s hair cut, unless they have permission from the parentI think that’s unlikely. Jealousy is a human emotion but anyone who can harm a baby is depraved and seriously messed up in the head.
I think Star’s short haircut suited her nicely but SB had no right to get it done - more stamping all over boundaries and making decisions that weren’t her’s to make.
100% agree on this. While I can empathise to an extent, there’s a lot of speculation going on about why things happened and we have to remember that it is all just speculation. Nobody really knows why they did these things.Personally I think FS is benefiting from everyone’s empathy on here perhaps more than she deserves. She’s definitely a victim herself and she didn’t deserve what SB did to her (nobody does) but now everything she did/didn’t do is seen through the lense of her being a victim of DV and she’s given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe some things she did do because of the horrible abuse, maybe other times it was because she’s a complete twat herself. It’s really hard to separate the two.
Saying she didn’t know what the head dunking thing was about and that she didn’t bite Star’s finger both seem like complete lies, and anyone with the slightest bit of sense (unlike SB) would say “yeah, that was cruel, I shouldn’t have done it” about video footage of them abusing a child if they were in court and trying to get away lightly, regardless of if that’s how they felt.
Personally I think FS is benefiting from everyone’s empathy on here perhaps more than she deserves. She’s definitely a victim herself and she didn’t deserve what SB did to her (nobody does) but now everything she did/didn’t do is seen through the lense of her being a victim of DV and she’s given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe some things she did do because of the horrible abuse, maybe other times it was because she’s a complete twat herself. It’s really hard to separate the two.
Saying she didn’t know what the head dunking thing was about and that she didn’t bite Star’s finger both seem like complete lies, and anyone with the slightest bit of sense (unlike SB) would say “yeah, that was cruel, I shouldn’t have done it” about video footage of them abusing a child if they were in court and trying to get away lightly, regardless of if that’s how they felt.
I do agree she’s lying about the head dunking & finger biting. I don’t see why holly would lie about the biting & it’s very commonly known a lot of parents bite their kids when they bite them, it’s suggested by the older generation all the time. The head dunking I think she’s lying by her reply to the texts.Personally I think FS is benefiting from everyone’s empathy on here perhaps more than she deserves. She’s definitely a victim herself and she didn’t deserve what SB did to her (nobody does) but now everything she did/didn’t do is seen through the lense of her being a victim of DV and she’s given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe some things she did do because of the horrible abuse, maybe other times it was because she’s a complete twat herself. It’s really hard to separate the two.
Saying she didn’t know what the head dunking thing was about and that she didn’t bite Star’s finger both seem like complete lies, and anyone with the slightest bit of sense (unlike SB) would say “yeah, that was cruel, I shouldn’t have done it” about video footage of them abusing a child if they were in court and trying to get away lightly, regardless of if that’s how they felt.
Yes, at one point during the court evidence it did occur to me that Star was sleeping at an awful lot of different houses / places, so that Frankie could go out. This isn’t a stable existence for a child even without the abuse from SB at a f* recycling plant.
My little girl who’s nearly 2 would not accept me giving her to several different people to look after overnight. She wouldn’t be at all happy and wouldn’t settle. She is ok sleeping at her dad’s overnight once a week so that she can spend time with him but even then she’s asking to go back to mummy at some points. It’s very problematic for children who don’t have secure attachments with a primary caregiver and causes issues for them as they grow up
I agree, FS on the stand yesterday was really interesting and she's evading a lot of questions and in my opinion downright lying. But I came on here yesterday expecting a good discussion instead it was all villifying KG... FS isn't some sort of hero here people seem to think she isPersonally I think FS is benefiting from everyone’s empathy on here perhaps more than she deserves. She’s definitely a victim herself and she didn’t deserve what SB did to her (nobody does) but now everything she did/didn’t do is seen through the lense of her being a victim of DV and she’s given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe some things she did do because of the horrible abuse, maybe other times it was because she’s a complete twat herself. It’s really hard to separate the two.
Saying she didn’t know what the head dunking thing was about and that she didn’t bite Star’s finger both seem like complete lies, and anyone with the slightest bit of sense (unlike SB) would say “yeah, that was cruel, I shouldn’t have done it” about video footage of them abusing a child if they were in court and trying to get away lightly, regardless of if that’s how they felt.
My kids have fell asleep stood up, leaning on something, or in a babywalker stood up but when they’re exhaustedIs it even possible for a baby to sleep standing up? Or anyone, actually?
How do you sleep standing up?
I doubt it would be possible for a baby with a fractured leg especially to sleep standing up.Is it even possible for a baby to sleep standing up? Or anyone, actually?
How do you sleep standing up?
Oh GodChances are, she didn’t want to eat because she had a big infected hole in her mouth, and didn’t want to lie down because her leg and ribs hurt… poor little darling
I really don’t understand how nobody noticed there was something seriously wrong. She would have been in extreme pain for weeks. Fractured leg, fractured ribs, fractured skull like ‘crazy paving’I had never even considered the fact that she didn’t want to sleep lying down because her ribs were broken and she was in pain. Horrific.
this is exactly why I’m on the fence with FS. I accept that she was abused and can see how it contributed to her failings, but she did fail her child on so many levels.I really don’t understand how nobody noticed there was something seriously wrong. She would have been in extreme pain for weeks. Fractured leg, fractured ribs, fractured skull like ‘crazy paving’
she would have been concussed. She would have suffered so much
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