Sarah Therese

[MargaritaMay]

I encourage you to take time to research why people actually choose to homeschool. Your comment seems very misinformed. The things you mentioned can ALL be accomplished via homeschooling.

some sources: (these are just a few)

How Children Learn and How Children Fail by John Holt (books)

The book Dumbing Us Down

Also the Ellen Fisher podcast has an entire episode on this topic. Ellen also has a link to something called: Does School Kill Creativity.

I am grateful beyond words I was homeschooled, I also learned all the things you mentioned above.

I mean no disrespect, but I encourage you to research why people homeschool. There are so many reasons, and that list continues to grow. When I have children they absolutely be homeschooled/unschooled.

Don't even let me get started on Ellen Fisher... She is certainly no authority on educational science. Someone who denies the necessity of sun protection, has very very worrying stance on the Covid pandemic and the methods to protect ourselves from it (ehm...antivaxxers...), and most importantly, I would never ever take advice from someone like the Fisher family who make profit from exposing their children's whole lives on the internet from birth. Just no. She's got cute kids, but that's not okay.

I know she has mentioned that books on homeschooling and they would never let anyone use those as a viable basis for children's education and development in Europe. But yeah... I'm glad I'm not in the USA.

 

[noe]

Nothing wrong with homeschooling. Especially in the usa where there schools are crazy but lots of extreme right wing fanatics homeschooling their children in the usa. Ellen fisher is a typical american right wing fanatic she just hides it better and is vegan. Sarah always seemed like she was an american with her extreme views.

Yeah. Sorry but I can not wrap my head around parents homeschooling their children without having any background in education. There is a reason people go through YEARS of training and/or school to be able to teach and sorry but you don't earn that knowledge by birthing a child. A few days ago Sarah referred to Michelangelo as Michael Angelo, she can't spell correctly (I'm not a native speaker and I notice it) and her world views are, well... I'm glad that we have stronger regulations here in Europe.

 

[MargaritaMay]

Homeschooling as is common in the US is basically illegal here in Germany as a child needs to learn and develop outside of their cozy home, with only their parents as influence and mentors. It is actually what builds our character, communication skills, preserverance, and much more when we find ourself in a challenging new environment like a classroom. It is exciting and broadens our children's horizon to learn from other kids and adults from different backgrounds and is so inspiring. And no, school wasn't easy or comfortable for me, but it is shaping and I can't imagine having spent my whole childhood only with my parents and only being told what THEY know from THeIR particular view point.
Then you have the US where it is possible that two young people, with random or no background in education are allowed to "teach" their kids only from the Bible, not much attention or interest in natural sciences for example...

 

[noe]

You do NOT have to have an educational background to educate your children. Mist because someone has a degree doesn’t make them automatically a good educator. Pronouncing something wrong happens, it’s okay, it’s how we learn. I am grateful the US is NOT more strict. I am concerned by any govern who restricts home education. A government who only wants you to learn what their system is concerning. In the US there are so many amazing homeschooling/unschooling curriculums to help parents. So many options that parents can choose from to help them along the way. Homeschooling is SO amazing, you do NOT need to have a educational background to teach. At the end of the day teachers no how amazing they are, are only as good as their curriculum/as the system allows. Homeschooling allows you to alter lessons to each child’s individual method of learning, children are not forced into school 6+ hours a day, for five days a week. You can bring our child out into nature for lessons, you can go into the community and see things hands on, etc. Homeschooling allows so many more options then being in the school system. In the US the school system is broken it’s not even funny, there are so many problems, the things they’re teaching children in many places is disgusting. Teachers are so overworked, underpaid, and not getting the support they need. You make a comment about Sarah’s world views, yet is the school system you are only taught the world view of what the government wants schools to teach children, it doesn’t offer anything that goes outside what the government wants you to learn. I could go on and on, but I will leave it here. You have a right to your opinion, and others have the same. Again, I am grateful that the US does NOT force parents to put their children in government run schools, and is not strict about homeschooling like places in Europe. It’s concerning to me that countries do that, and that people think it’s a good thing. I encourage you though to read more about homeschooling, there are so many books available, try reading some. There are so many people who have videos/podcasts about homeschooling, research, see what you find. Also, one problem people have, people have been conditioned to think that in order to be educated you need follow what the government tells you education should be, and nothing else. This is so far from the truth. There are so many ways to educate someone, you don’t have to have a degree to educate your children, especially today when there are so many amazing options online. I hope one day you research more, so at the very least you understand why people decide to homeschool, that number grows every year in the US. More and more people are making the choice to homeschool their children as they don’t agree with the school system. I am grateful every day that I was homeschooled. When I have children they absolutely will be homeschooled. And I am grateful the US is not forcing children into what the government calls school.

Okay. I'm happy that worked out for you and that you have the option to continue down that road with your children. But I cannot agree with you that you don't need a formal education to be a teacher, because that formal education, while maybe regulated by policies and politics/government you may not agree with (because that's what I can understand from your reply) it is based on science :child psychology, didactics, methodology, sociology, medicine to name a few. Knowledge, experience and the implementation of those rarely comes naturally to someone. I can see the benefits of homeschooling I really can, but only done by someone who has actually trained to do that. Not a parent with a downloaded curriculum.

 

[Ello22]

I was hoping someone would start a thread for Sarah Therese. I can’t remember why I started watching her channel but became fascinated by her devotion to her religion (Christian but probably some unique church of Canada). Archaic views on marriage and the female role in it. Recently, she reposted some disturbing anti abortion propaganda. I’m assuming she’s part of a group that do not engage with society outside of their church (hence the home schooling). It’s eye opening to see. I don’t like it but can’t look away!

 

[Annilog]

I am grateful that I am not in a country that denies parents the right to choose what is best for their family, and forces children into an indoctrination system. A system predicated on turning out worker bees in a hive, working a 9-5 lifestyle. You don’t have to like Ellen to listen to the podcast episode. You can also still read the books. Also, I am glad Ellen spoke her opinion on covid, I agree with her. Just because something goes against what the mainstream media says does’t make it wrong. Educating yourself and making an informed opinion is what everyone should be doing, yet few are, they just accept what they’re told, without hesitation. Again, I am grateful that I live somewhere where homeschooling is allowed, and where more people are choosing it every day. You do what’s best for you though.

Sorry, but a lot of parents do NOT know what is best for their children and some of them are dangerous. But I see what you like...

 

[EllenDeGenerate]

She tends to have difficult pregnancies so maybe it's that? I think she said after her third kid that her doctor was begging her to stop because she could wind up in a wheelchair from the bone density loss.

Regardless, one thing that drives me insane is that Sarah is the house's cleaner, cook, designer, teacher (for her homeschooled kids), AND breadwinner. What on Earth does Kieran even do all day?

I pretty much asked her whether or not he worked to support all these kids she’s having… and… she blocked me!

 

[justausername_]

Oh my. I came across her once as I was watching smth on minimalism and then she started talking about her weird conservative christian beliefs and I couldn't quite believe the shit that she said (and sadly believes in). Imagine you are a girl and you grow up with a mother who doesn't just believe that it's her duty to spread her legs whenever her husband has a boner but actually does so. This and she is so wrong on so many levels and her husband just a scary big a-hole. Sorry for the drastic choice of words but when I heard her views on marriage, sex, gender roles and so on, it left me speechless. How, how can you say and film yourself saying that you as a woman are obligated to have sex with your husband when he wants to fxxk, then look at the recordings again while editing the whole video and still think that this kind of message is OKAY?! I feel bad for her kids to grow up in such a fundamentalist environment.

 

[MargaritaMay]

She's popping out her fifth kid at only 27?!? Woaaah... I'm older than her and childfree, but well, not that our lives havy any similarities at all.
I only watched a couple of her videos years ago. I think when she had the boy and was still doing make up videos... and then each time she would start a new baby series on YT the videos would show up in my feed again. I haven't followed her that closely, but I remember that corncerns about her third pregnancy being so close to the previous one, too. Like, giiiirl, staaahp. Take care of the kids and their needs you already have ok?
I watch and follow a lot of minimalism videos, but it is so clear (and quite annoying) how at some point she just changed her aesthetic on the surface and started doing 'minimalism', mainly by styling her house in grey and beige stuff. Btw, producing five kids in five years or so - not very minimal. It's like she's making it a competition with.... women in general.
But yeah, I have picked up some VERY problematic tones from her too, the wife/husband talk, etc... I have never ever heard anyone that age talk about religion and marriage that way, but it's also not the norm here in Germany. I also thought she was from the US. She gives off such weird, arrogant vibes, can't imagine what she's gonna be like when she's in her mid-thirties with five teenagers, who will hopefully think for themselves...

 

[blueblueindigo]

Oh wow, I had seen her videos in the sidebar pop up when searching minimalist content but never clicked. Just read the transcript of the "wife" video, and sorry but it is just plain disturbing. She says she basically moved from her parents house to her marital home, and goes on and on about "serving" her husband, his needs, how she prioritises her husband over her kids... and then the rape. I'm just shocked really that a video promoting these crimes and women being of so little value within their marriage that they are regarded as "Rebels" if they try and say "no". Oh my god this is just so fucking awful, and it's packaged up with some wholesome minimalist, crunchy family vibe. How can a man behave like this, why is this viewed as the norm within that circle.

 

[liquidlinernotes]

Haven’t followed her lately but her Instagram stories from a day ago show her very ill… does she have Covid or something else?

She tends to have difficult pregnancies so maybe it's that? I think she said after her third kid that her doctor was begging her to stop because she could wind up in a wheelchair from the bone density loss.

Regardless, one thing that drives me insane is that Sarah is the house's cleaner, cook, designer, teacher (for her homeschooled kids), AND breadwinner. What on Earth does Kieran even do all day?

 

[Ellyjelly]

Today i thought about her after 6 months, and went to youtube to see what's she's up to and if she's pregnant again . She said that she most likely won't have another pregnancy, but i was sure she will, but, but not this fast! She's my age ffs, with FIVE kids!

She's definitely having a breeding fetish.
Disgusting!

I knew she’d have another as soon as her sister said she was pregnant on the day she had Molly ( her last baby)

Update for anyone who doesn't get her newsletter: she's 15 weeks along, so her youngest was about 7 months when she got pregnant again.

That’s because she believes you never say no to your husband

 

[justausername_]

I know that some ppl will take offense but she is just too fundamentalist American for me to stomach. And frankly, her content and what she preaches is toxic af for girls and women. Your worth as a girl and women doesn't depend on whatever validation you take from men. But that's exactly her entire persona. Are times really that uncertain that so many turn down progress in favor to depend fully on a men (because what could possibly go wrong?!) with whom you have sex whenever he wants to f*ck? Everything in my screams when I hear her say the word 'serve'. No one should serve anyone in a relationship. You do you out of self-respect and because you love and respect the people you live with and not because someone once wrote that women have to serve in the kitchen so that their men can provide. The other side of the spectrum aka girl-boss hustle culture is equally toxic, though.

 

[Ello22]

She only runs her Instagram account and newsletter now. Quit YouTube. I guess it’s easier to make money on Instagram these days. She’s had 4 children in pretty quick succession. Seems like she’s planning a fifth. Even though her body was struggling with the fourth pregnancy. Her content seems to be a constant strive to perfectionism. Her sister seems to be in a similar situation. I would feel concerned if they weren’t so self righteous.

 

[liquidlinernotes]

Haven’t followed her lately but her Instagram stories from a day ago show her very ill… does she have Covid or something else?

I didn't see those ones. I know she's pregnant again, despite I think doctors warning her not to try again after her third (this is her fifth).

She also just twisted her knee from the look of it.

My one Sarah Therese rant, in watching her slide over to Instagram influencer full-time, is that her whole "Minimalism" and "slow living" lifestyle has pretty much gone out the window. Because she can't get revenue just from Instagram the way she could from YouTube, so instead she's now forced to hock all kinds of sh*t that -- a year ago -- she would've told everyone she'd neeevvveerrr do because having a minimal, clean lifestyle was important to her.

I get that the money would've dried up, but it's wild to see someone who got famous with her "I don't even wear nail polish anymore!!!" shtick trying to convince us that she wanted a bright blue Our Place pan.

 

[homesteader86]

Don't even let me get started on Ellen Fisher... She is certainly no authority on educational science. Someone who denies the necessity of sun protection, has very very worrying stance on the Covid pandemic and the methods to protect ourselves from it (ehm...antivaxxers...), and most importantly, I would never ever take advice from someone like the Fisher family who make profit from exposing their children's whole lives on the internet from birth. Just no. She's got cute kids, but that's not okay.

I know she has mentioned that books on homeschooling and they would never let anyone use those as a viable basis for children's education and development in Europe. But yeah... I'm glad I'm not in the USA.

I am grateful that I am not in a country that denies parents the right to choose what is best for their family, and forces children into an indoctrination system. A system predicated on turning out worker bees in a hive, working a 9-5 lifestyle. You don’t have to like Ellen to listen to the podcast episode. You can also still read the books. Also, I am glad Ellen spoke her opinion on covid, I agree with her. Just because something goes against what the mainstream media says does’t make it wrong. Educating yourself and making an informed opinion is what everyone should be doing, yet few are, they just accept what they’re told, without hesitation. Again, I am grateful that I live somewhere where homeschooling is allowed, and where more people are choosing it every day. You do what’s best for you though.

 

[noe]

You have a right to your opinion, but it makes me SO angry that people in our world have been so conditioned believe that you need someone who went to university to be properly educated. The problem is that you believe you need a certain system o be educated. A system that is designed to turn out university students, then people who go into the work force who spend their lives working 9-5. You assume that it is a ”parent downloaded curriculum”. There are so many amazing curriculums out there designed for homeschooling/unschooling, they are not just some wishy washy none sense, like people think they are. You do NOT need someone who went to school to properly educate child. That’s a huge problem in our world, people ASSUME that education is based on all the things you mentioned, because tou have been taught that your in entire life. They ASSUME that experts put together this system based on all these factors, and that’s why we need to be in school. Truthfully, it’s NOT how education needs to be, and when people question it, they are looked down on. The older most people get, they don’t even remember most of what they learned in school, most of it they never use again unless they are in a career that uses certain information. So much of school is based on exams, and performing to a certain standard. A standard based on what people in a position of authority tell you is important. Again, you’re your opinion appears heavily based on what has been pushed on society, that education is based on all the things you mentioned, and that you need to have an certified teacher to be in charge. None of this is true. You have a right to your opinion, but I am encouraging you to research, and truly understand what homeschooling/unschooling is about. Again, sadly we live in a world where people believe education needs to be what they have been told, based on all the things mentioned. People don’t question it, they just accept it, believing it’s what’s best. I highly encourage you to research read books, listen to podcasts, and talks on the issue. You’d be surprised at what you will actually learn regarding education, and teaching children.
Some great sources: How Children Learn & How Children Fail by John Holt
Unschooling Rules Clark Aldrich (a former teacher)
Dumbing Us Down John Taylor Gatto
The Unschooling Manuel naturalchild.org
Does School Kill Creativity: Ted Talk
podcasts:
Homeschool Unrefined
The Homeschool Sister
Ellen Fisher Podcast/Youtube channel videos on the topic
Raising Lifelong Learners
Off-Trail Learning
Exploring Unschooling
Blogs:
Simple Homeschool
Confessions of a Homeschool
I Can Teach My Child
Homegrown Learners


These are just a few sources, there are countless. Again, Everyone has a right to their opinion. However, it makes me so sad and so angry that so many people have a negative view of homeschool, because they have been taught to see it that way. People are taught that school needs to be the things you mentioned, based off of other things you and others mentioned and we should just accept it because they know best, but that’s just not true. It does NOT have to be that way at all, if people did not just blindly accept that education needs to be what you posted, you would see different results. A sad reality of our world is that people no longer question things, especially when people of power and authority are saying them. Again, it saddens me to see, at least in the US people go from education system, to university racking up massive debt, as University in the US is crazy expensive. They spend years paying off there debt, many end up in jobs that are just jobs to pay the bills, and not careers they enjoy. They work looking forward to the weekend, spending their entire lives working the 9-5 mentality. They raise their kids the same way, as that is what the school system is designed to do, generation after generation. Not to mention the curriculum in so many places in the US at least, has gone downhill so much, and is failing students at this point, in many places it’s an absolute joke. Once again, everyone has a right to their opinion, but it makes me so sad and so angry that people have such a negative view on alternative forms of education, all because they have been taught to see things a certain way.

Thank you for your reply and for the record I do not look down on you. I simply disagree. It's best to not continue this conversation, because it won't lead anywhere. Good luck!

 

[liquidlinernotes]

I was hoping someone would start a thread for Sarah Therese. I can’t remember why I started watching her channel but became fascinated by her devotion to her religion (Christian but probably some unique church of Canada). Archaic views on marriage and the female role in it. Recently, she reposted some disturbing anti abortion propaganda. I’m assuming she’s part of a group that do not engage with society outside of their church (hence the home schooling). It’s eye opening to see. I don’t like it but can’t look away!

I live only about an hour from where she does and we don't tend to have a special kind of Christian church here, though where she is there's definitely a lot of Mormonism. But she and the Loeppky's Life lady seem to be good old-fashioned fundies and possibly quiver-full folks given her constant desire to have more more more kids despite doctors telling her flat-out to stop.

Her anti-abortion video really put her on the map so I'm not surprised she's still doing it for clicks.

I did genuinely like her minimalism content but it seemed clear that she was just getting more and more openly bigoted with time.

She only runs her Instagram account and newsletter now. Quit YouTube. I guess it’s easier to make money on Instagram these days. She’s had 4 children in pretty quick succession. Seems like she’s planning a fifth. Even though her body was struggling with the fourth pregnancy. Her content seems to be a constant strive to perfectionism. Her sister seems to be in a similar situation. I would feel concerned if they weren’t so self righteous.

iirc, she wanted to adopt because she was warned to stop after her third. I think it had to do with the amount of bone loss she had as a result of so many pregnancies in so little time. Like she's potentially going to need a walker or a wheelchair.

 

[EllenDeGenerate]

I used quite enjoy her content, but I've really turned off her as she has become smug and opinionated, imo. An aside : she appears almost addicted to having kids! Can't believe she's expecting her fifth already! Its all picture-perfect now, but may not be when they are all old enough to not be under her 'control'

 

[liquidlinernotes]

I couldn't find a thread on Sarah Therese, who recently left YouTube... but not before announcing that she sometimes wakes up to her husband having sex with her?

I started watching her for minimalist content, but soon found all of her weird fundie videos and "wife talks" and became fascinated by her... shall we say, lifestyle.

Here's her final video:



And her final "wife talk"