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Mselvista

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She's never been without a Smythson diary. As a child she used get the coach with her nanna from her home in a mining community in the Valleys for their annual trip to Smythson of Bond Street to buy a monogrammed diary for little Sali's stocking. All working class nans did this for their grandaughters back then, it being a matter of pride to ensure that the snot nosed lasses of the coal fields could record their daily strife in journals which closed with a satisfying click
 
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GTL Old-Timer

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To be fair there it’s the Labour Party who is under investigation for racism by the Equality and Human Rights Commission and who is frightening the Jewish community to the point where people feel the need to speak out. So he may be obnoxious but no political party has some sort of moral high ground regarding race.
0.08% of a membership of over 500,000 (the largest socialist party in W Europe) being investigated does not an antisemitism crisis make (Less than 500 people being investigated). And it is the press and the Jewish establishment that are stoking the flames (the same Jewish establishment that votes for the Tories - Chief Rabbi Mirvis, as an example, who is mates with Boris AND Theresa May at best represents 25% of the Jewish population in Britain and maybe half of British Jewry is represented by the Board of Deputies and even less by the Jewish Leadership Council). Not the Labour Party itself.

The Jewish community is SO divided on this that the Jewish Labour Movement’s younger members have split off to form Jews Against Boris in order to campaign for Labour. I know, because I am proud to be one of them.

It’s also noteworthy that Labour is polling at least 25 points ahead of every other party in the polls when it comes to support from ethnic minorities because it is the one party that has consistently stood up for minorities.

As for the EHRC, I find it extremely difficult to take them seriously when 1. you look at the background of the Board members and 2.they have repeatedly resisted calls to investigate the Tories for Islamophobia. And this is the same party that presided over the Windrush scandal. I suppose if one believes in and supports a hierarchy of racism, with many believing antisemitism is the most egregious (it is not, btw - those of us who are white Jews are not subjected to state power and abuse) then yes, we’re inclined to take these claims more seriously and legitimately than the actions of a party that have led to the deportation and LITERAL DEATHS of black people of Windrush. ***And this is the fucking party Sali’s fucking husband votes for***

There is no one Jewish voice or community, and especially no hive mind on Labour, so please don’t speak about us as if we are a monolith because that in itself is antisemitism.
 
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kuklinka

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I found this site after hearing about the MOD debacle. I hadn't followed instagram mums but I am aware of the murky world of influencers. I think it's weaponised crypto-marketing and a blight on our lives.

Your threads on Sali caught my eye. I had liked her columns back in the day but let's face it, the world has changed and she can't offer inside info and she doesn't have world class makeup skills so what does she do? Her manner on those youtube bathroom vids is stilted, her voice is the 'posh telephone' one and she has that annoying 'Greg Wallace' habit of repeating what the interviewee had just said. So I doubt a TV career is in the offing. Hence the grifting and the increasing defensiveness.

But on a deeper level, there is something about her, and her ilk, and what they get up to that really bothers me.

If a person puts on makeup and takes a zillion selfies, I'm meh, but if someone crafts a whole identity as a signal to others I'm alerted to a pathology.
The purpose of her twitter interventions isn't to care about the poor kids, it isn't to care about empowering women through the power of wax-based products or cashmere sweaters with asinine slogans embroidered on them. The purpose of the game show is to be the kind of person who takes aim at the bullies, who cares about pisspoor parenting, while rocking a red lip.
This isn't about trolls and bullying, this is about the consequences of narcissism, and about consumerism and the toxic nature of our online world.
That is why you saw the narcissistic rage - not because you lot bullied her, but becaused you sniffed it out.

If I was undecided, her twitter about her children being fine after the divorce (please don't think I am saying divorce is a bad thing and that no one can escape without mortal wounds) tipped me over. She is blind to the fact that they may be replying that way for all sorts of reasons. She gets defensive when people suggested that they may become unfine later down the line. They are just characters in the play in which she is a 'really cool mum, like helping people, you know?'
 
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PineappleQueen19

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My take (for anyone new) is that this site was a minor but niggling thorn in her side until the Victoria Beckham makeup launch (I think) and being asked questions about the Charlotte Tilbury / Estee Laundry claims. That led to her LinkedIn, Facebook etc stalking spree. Which resulted in bullying claims, shared by Estee Laundry. And that’s what tipped her over into a full blown narcissistic injury episode, the result of which was the ill-judged, impulsive rage video.

As to her husband being non-bigoted, his twitter history indicates otherwise. From memory he can be just as nasty as his wife when it comes to the need to “win” twitter.
 
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Jade Mitzi

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Saying this now as I will be busy in the cave for a few days....... to my beefy faced, skiddy, incel, shitmouth, bin people, you are the best. May the fake, dramamongers always have to contend with people like us calling them out on their gross exaggerations, blatant lies and conperson schilling.

Regardless of what you are doing over the holidays, I hope it’s a good one for each and every one of you. May your mushrooms always be dancing :m 🥰
 
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Mselvista

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This in the writing always used to jump out at me - I was caprivated by the Do It My Way DUMMIES tone.

But opinion writing is just that isn't it really. She is certainly Better Than Most People though.
It's a very fruitful aspect if publishing though. Look at Caitlin's "How to be a me" and her "How to build a fictional me" franchise with it's spin off film. Not forgetting her and her sister's brilliant sitcom "Raised by my fictional single parent mom (can't be arsed to write dad)".
And then there's India's "How to spend money like I do", "How to lose weight like me and my mate did", "How to be thrifty because I got into debt", "How to get older like me" and "Humans and dogs have lived side by side for over 15,000 years but no one was doing it properly until Eric and I won Westminster dog of the year (or rather our dog did) ' let me show you how".
And then of course there's IK's novels such as "Fictional me at Christmas" and "How fictional me got older".
 
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Tesla's Ghost

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I took it literally.
And onto you, my dear granddaughter, I bequeath a 50 year-old lipstick that was LE* and had a 4.7 score on makeup alley.com.

*Limited edition, not Lisa Eldridge :D (just to be on the safe side)
 
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Originalnuttah

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Yeah, in my head I’m struggling to marry the person who is a founder of an admirable charity like the beauty banks, but recommends a £90 lipstick. At a beauty editor in a left-wing newspaper who declares supermarket products nasty knockoff. SH and other similar influencers really need to have an extended detour out of the Brighton-London bubble and witness what ordinary life for the majority of people in this country looks like.
 
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BostonFernGreen

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ETA internet people are in the gang with bin people and skidmark people.


Lots of people work hard in the public sector and feel happy with that. I don’t understand the idea that there is a clear way to be a goodie.

being an influencer is one of the most unethical professions out there so I’m not sure SH is best placed to lecture and explain how to be good. Does she think beauty banks offsets her bullying social life and hyper consumerist self centred career? Not when I weigh it on my ethical scales. Nowhere near.

Her confidence in her lifestyle as the main and right one is hilarious.
 
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Mselvista

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Time for me to sound po-faced again. I am against mispelling Sali because the deliberate mispelling of a "foreign" name for jokes is, I think, shitty and beneath us. Apologies for the snotty tone but I don't know how else to say it.
 
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melfish

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Middle age really has no mirror in public life anymore. Instead, we are presented with women who don't look their age, but don't exactly look youthful either. Instead, it's this strange, flawless yet generic look that succeeds in making regular women feel they aren't doing enough. Which is a perfect ploy to flog product, isn't it?
 
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PineappleQueen19

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Not a great day for Lauren Laverne..

“So my heart sinks when she appears at the restaurant and the energy in the room plummets like a stone before she has even sat down. For the next two hours I try everything to rev it up again, but am comprehensively thwarted. I strike up more of a rapport with the woman who checks in my coat than I ever manage with Laverne, and as our lunch goes on, I’m horrified to hear myself becoming equally flat. By the time we leave, the cloakroom attendant seems considerably more charismatic than either of us.

“To criticise an interviewer after failing to get much out of her myself is obviously a bit rich. But although lots of interviewees work hard at revealing nothing, the puzzle about Laverne is that she has nothing to hide; she just doesn’t seem to know what would make for an interesting conversation.

“How to convey the dreariness of an interview is always tricky. If I don’t provide lots of dull quotes to illustrate the point, why would readers believe me? But if I do, I’ll just bore you. So I can only invite you to imagine for yourself the reams of tedium you’ve been spared. She tells me anecdotes she must realise I’ve read numerous times in previous interviews, and prefers to talk in vague generalities instead of telling details. She is so relentlessly low-wattage about everything that, in a desperate bid to animate her, I resort to asking what drives her mad. “I think unfairness and unkindness.” That’s not going to give readers much sense, I wail, of who you are! Who in the world would cite fairness and kindness as reasons to be angry?”
 

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BostonFernGreen

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Eeeeuw @lipsticktaser you 💩??? That is so povo and shitmouthy. No, the soaps I recommend are for those who take unabashed and unashamed deep pleasure in the indulgent ritual of an at-home self cleanse.


For the unarguable avoidance of doubt, these fabulous slabs of decadent and luxurious suds are a far cry from the nostalgia-hughed yet categorically rubbish bars of imperial leather my nan hoarded.

The giftability of SoapsSoapsSoaps soaps is, without question, their unique claim to a hefty share of an already hugely over bustling market. Think soft, slippery gauze in muted neutrals with a filmy hint of that glitter we all need a flash of at this time of year to dredge us from our vitamin d deprived winter blues and into the inevitable annual questionable imbibing of Advocat-drenched snowballs and Karen from IT’s homemade minced pies which are really rather dry but you take two so as not to insult the hero you have on speed dial for those all too regular deadline-crises when your internet connection decides to take a mini-break.

Once you have your capsule soap wardrobe in your greasy, grubby, minced pie stained hands, you’ll need to buy a suitable shrine so you know it’s comfy and safe.

I defy anyone to be anything less than unarguably spellbound by this seismic shift from the sleazy ancient body washes contained within the shamefully planet-damaging plastic sheathes and to their saintly, superlative yet austère counterparts which successfully signal virtue and style in one unassuming yet beautifully sublimely scented tiny cube of glycerin.

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i BOUGHT MY OWN SOAP SO SUCK ON THIS SHIT FOR BRAINS.
 
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SkankHunt42

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Who was she referring to when she said ‘It has made her ILL’ on the Friday video? CH?
Can I just say tattle is the best recommendation Sali has ever made. I had a look a few months ago and expected to see 4chan on steroids. Instead I found an honest and friendly community unlike Mumsnet or beauty forums where people see through the bullshit. Now I've started my maternity leave early and have a handful of threads to catch up on 😍
 
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Mselvista

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She has a distinction between reading here and reading printouts of here in her folder. Family and friends told her what was said here (edited bits to spare her) but she has never looked herself, just at the pages and pages of stuff from here. Because that is very different.
Hope that clears it up.
It's like when Gerry Adams' comments used to be read out on the news by an actor.
 
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GTL Old-Timer

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Do investigative journalists looking into the hot topics of the day get #presstreatments to soothe their brains and typing fingers?
No, they get threats to have their kids taken away from them, arrested by governments, imprisoned, assaulted, or murdered. On a good day a Pulitzer.

This is why I would never lump Sali and her crew into the category of journalist. They write fluff/bollocks for cash.
 
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