SacconeJolys #18 Roly Poly Jonathan Joly had too much to drink, his wife is on the brink

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a school teacher or other school staff that reported them to social services. All teachers are trained to report any suspicious injuries their students have to social services. Facial bruises are listed as unusual by the NHS. And Alessia has been going into school with a lot of them. They’re most likely from Anna poking and pinching her face as she has said she does this on insta stories. But the teachers would be trained to report this anyhow, as it’s happened frequently.

And Jono wringing his hands straight after and trying to warm them up are a pretty good indication of the temperature of that shower. And if it was luke warm no way would Alessia have been so upset.
I'm concerned about those kids climbing up and leaning against those upstairs windows. That's an old house, fixtures and frames are probably weakened over time..freaks me out as my daughter when a toddler fell through a neighbors second story dodgy balcony railing when she ran up to it and leant on it to say hi to me and it just fell away and my daughter went straight over. Scariest moment of my life so when I see those kids I literally get the horrors.

Just-opinion said:

I was just wondering, how can all of this be solved over a phone call? And what I mean by that is, how do social services just HAVE their phone number. Last time they called Jonathan but this time they called Anna? So both mobile numbers are just public information able to be googled? Because they've never admitted to SS physically coming over to their place, how did they ever get in contact in the first place? And surely SS couldn't just leave a phone number or two on their file to call if complaints come through? And if more complaints came through, how would they know to call Anna or Jonathan, do they flip a coin and say "yep that's the one this time"? Especially because I'm considering a lot of the complaints would involve both parents, so they couldn't call one about the other if they're somehow involved.
SS wouldn't call them about a complaint, no matter how much of a "relationship" they have. Bullshit for vlog content to raise their dying views and pay back Anna's mums tax

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Excellent points. I believe Social Services are considered essential services right now and are probably still doing house calls. I know that domestic abuse has spiked and police are doing house calls because of that, so I assume SS is doing the same for children. Pandemics don't stop abuse, unfortunately, so children still need to be protected. SS doesn't make phone calls to the alleged abusers. Sometimes school administrators and SS will communicate via phone about a student they are worried about, but they're not going to call up a parent like Anna and say, "Lol sorry to bug ya Ms. Saccone, some nut is saying you're abusing your kids again! They're lying, right?! We're pals and I know you'd never do that." She's altering part of the event or it didn't happen.

underthesun said:

Did they say it was from someone online who doesn't live in their area?

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No, Anna just says she had a phone call then jumps right into crying troll and how that person clearly isn't happy and that they should be decluttering or something instead of wasting their time. When the fact is they won't be privileged to that information. There's definitely no such thing as having a friendship with social services, that's hugely unethical, unprofessional and would lose someone their job. Having a number of contacts with them does not mean a friendship. But I know these 2 have a weird definition of the words friend and friendship.

As myself and others said the fact is is it could have come from anyone and would make more sense coming from someone in real life. We might have a lot to say on here but the majority of us would not cross the line into real life and would certainly not waste such a precious services time or resources. Like they and their viewers would like to believe. Some people are busy decluttering or actually saving lives.

Linnyloo said:

Anna said before on a vlog that SS came out to the house to examine Alessia for bruises when she was a baby. She said ona was there and it was very upsetting. So they have been out to the house before an

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She actually said the police came around and a policeMAN inspected Alessia for bruises. Sure I don't need to point out both the faults with that statement. And proceeded to say that the police were so DISTRAUGHT when Anna told them about the abuse they receive from trolls and that they could not believe people would do that to someone who had just given birth. Again spot the faults. The police will have witnessed first hand far worse instances from all sorts of events car crashes, child pornography, violent crimes that would cause them to be DISTRAUGHT. A tale from a mother about online bullying would highly unlikely cause that reaction and they would do their best not to react so publically.

It just doesn't add up. And yet still people take them at their word and believe them without question. In their "profession" it's all too easy to cry troll and assume that's where allegations are coming from. It even earns them more money. Crying troll is more lucrative than sitting down and thinking perhaps there are things we could do better as parents.

Let’s be honest:
1. Whoever rang social services wasn’t a troll, nothing has really happened recently for anyone online to go to that extent (I’m thinking cold shower scandal etc), so must be someone who knows them, could even be a neighbour. Concerned teacher who’s not heard anything & knows about home life. (Will add tho I’ve not read threads recently so could be wrong re scandals)

2. social services COULD have visited, but Anna will lie and say they rang to make her look better. ‘They know were no harm!1!1!1’,

Or
They could have rang because social services are actively involved, thus are ringing because they don’t need to see home situation again (possible complaint was just school worried about no contact or neighbours overhead something)

Completely agree with others tho, chances are it’s either a lie for attention, or it’s a case of social services having bigger problems to deal with, especially with people being home a lot more

underthesun said:

Did they say it was from someone online who doesn't live in their area? Would SS even tell them from where the complaint came? AFAIK, they do not do that here in the US. But, I've also never had a relationship with SS either, so I don't know. It could be someone local who knows them and are truly concerned or who have information we don't even have. I mean, it could have come from their own nanny for all we know. If it happened, of course.

I do not believe the children should be taken from A&J. I do think they very much need parenting classes and to be forced to do things like correctly use car restraints and to protect their identity and safety by not exposing them so much on social media.



I'm happy to debate using facts. I'm always curious how on earth they can defend the car seat situation. Like, PLEASE, prove to me they do it correctly with facts. They can't.



Anna said "cold" like 5 times. She said it was so bad she couldn't do, Jonathan had to. She said it was to shock Alessia into behaving. What information do you have that the rest of us don't have that you can tell us the termperature of that water? They defended their actions saying Anna had read that COLD showers work. No one, until caught/called out, used the term luke warm or cool or anything other than cold. For now, I'm going to believe what Anna originally said herself over what you are saying.

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They've been using the term cold shower for years also. There's lots of times on vlogs when cold showers were referred to, with even Erika saying it to Anna.

Even with they 'They went too far (again)' title, it only got 125k views..... oh Jonathan..... must try harder!

That poor fucking little girl Alessia. First you can hear her crying in the background of Anna's insta stories because it's "hair washing night".
Then Anne is filming "how cute" Andrea is, you think it's just them two... Turns out Alessia is stood behind her looking SO Sad sucking her thumb. Anna is completely ignoring her.
Who wants to bet she got a cold shower tonight? And what for fuck all I bet!

Honestly I have never felt so sorry for a kid in all my life.

Blondie said:

That poor fucking little girl Alessia. First you can hear her crying in the background of Anna's insta stories because it's "hair washing night".
Then Anne is filming "how cute" Andrea is, you think it's just them two... Turns out Alessia is stood behind her looking SO Sad sucking her thumb. Anna is completely ignoring her.
Who wants to bet she got a cold shower tonight? And what for fuck all I bet!

Honestly I have never felt so sorry for a kid in all my life.

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That or the cold shower traumatised her so much that she now screams when having her hair washed.

Did Anna say they went for a 2 hour walk?

If she did then she’s stupid. You’re permitted 1 hour outside for exercise a day.

Sorry if I misheard her. But that’s irresponsible if that is what they did and even more so for her to say it since her followers will think it’s ok. (I could go back and listen again but I can’t bring myself to)

Minniemousesshoes said:

Did Anna say they went for a 2 hour walk?

If she did then she’s stupid. You’re permitted 1 hour outside for exercise a day.

Sorry if I misheard her. But that’s irresponsible if that is what they did and even more so for her to say it since her followers will think it’s ok. (I could go back and listen again but I can’t bring myself to)

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Dumb and Dumber probably think it's an hour each way

Goodness me. I understand celebrating the dogs' birthdays. I also understand making them a treat. But to stick a candle on it and put it so close to them? Nope. And singing for each individual dog? Nope. The kids looked so bored.

I did like how Emilia has figured out how to play Happy Birthday on the piano without sheet music. That's clever, and they should encourage her to do more of that. But knowing Anna she'll find that a chore so she will not put any more effort into Emilia's piano lessons.

Emilia was shielding Andrea's head when they were in the back of the tractor. When have we ever seen the adults do anything like that? So sad that their 7 year old has more parental instincts than the actual parents.

Eduardo is looking forward to his birthday so much. I hope they actually do something for him, and not just cake and prezzies and that's it like what they did for Alessia's.

Minniemousesshoes said:

Did Anna say they went for a 2 hour walk?

If she did then she’s stupid. You’re permitted 1 hour outside for exercise a day.

Sorry if I misheard her. But that’s irresponsible if that is what they did and even more so for her to say it since her followers will think it’s ok. (I could go back and listen again but I can’t bring myself to)

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I think she said 'our walk'. But still strange that they did not film it then. Must have been the adults only again.

From comments yesterday's vlog, apparently I 'have a lot to answer for'. Hilarious.

"It's super interesting to see the faces behind the usernames. 'Eileen' has a lot to answer for. Spends most of her waking hours writing trash, twisting things to suit her agenda, whipping up a frenzy on various sites. Look at the amount of posts she makes about them, and that's only on one site. She's been hounding the SJs for yrs, openly admits to reporting them and contacting various people about them. It's a fact that people make up false accusations about this family. People have come out and said that they were encouraged to contact the SS about them via DM on a particular site."

Dear minions reading here, and Anna of course... I did NOT contact Social Services, if that even happened. And yes, I use this forum a lot, so what? At least I don't exploit my children.

Eileen_2019 said:

From comments yesterday's vlog, apparently I 'have a lot to answer for'. Hilarious.

"It's super interesting to see the faces behind the usernames. 'Eileen' has a lot to answer for. Spends most of her waking hours writing trash, twisting things to suit her agenda, whipping up a frenzy on various sites. Look at the amount of posts she makes about them, and that's only on one site. She's been hounding the SJs for yrs, openly admits to reporting them and contacting various people about them. It's a fact that people make up false accusations about this family. People have come out and said that they were encouraged to contact the SS about them via DM on a particular site."

Dear minions reading here, and Anna of course... I did NOT contact Social Services, if that even happened. And yes, I use this forum a lot, so what? At least I don't exploit my children.

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Eileen you're just so jealous!

DoseofReality said:

Eileen you're just so jealous!

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Oh I know, right?? What I wouldn't give to live in a grey mansion and to exploit my children to unsavoury types across the world....

Apparently we are all fat and broke...

wonderfulthingabouttigger said:

Apparently we are all fat and broke...

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Can't speak for the rest of ya'll but they got me right!

I may be fat and broke, but at least I can think critically and accept criticism and not just fawning

Message to all the SJ lovers on the board.

You condone the pimping of childrens private lives for money so you can be entertained!!!!! (I do not watch their vlogs)

They are not child actors who have chosen to be in the public. They are forced by their own parents to be preforming monkeys every single day of their lives since conception for YOUR entertainment and their parents bank accounts!

You think it's so fun and no big deal to be filmed without real consent everyday of your life whenever the person filming feels like it? Why don't you ask someone in your house to pick up a camera and film you whenever they like. Just like those poor kids they could film you when you're taking a bath. When you're on the toliet. When you're sick and puking. When you've shit yourself and smeared it on the walls and you've been punished for it. When you're sad and crying. When you're just waking up. Every night before you go to bed. Every single thing you might want to keep private broadcasted all over the internet for money without your concent.
I'm sure at least once in your life a friends snapped an unflattering pic that you've asked them not to post on Facebook or IG imagine them saying I don't care if you don't want me to post it I am anyway.
Would you not feel violated in some way? Now imagine having no say at all in what someone posts about you daily all over the internet and having no say at all. That is exactly what they do to their kids everyday and no one can say how those kids will really be effected by all this yrs from now. I hate Jonathan and Anna because of the way they've used their children to get rich and continue to make them work on every platform daddy's using next to make money off his kids. You don't agree with that statement? Ok ask them to no longer include the kids in the vlogs and see how many views they get. If they're not selling their kids for money then surely they can get views off their own backs!!

poppyflower said:

they may not be perfect parents and do a lot of things that don't seem nice (which is every parent ever honestly) but social services...really? like as self centre and snobby as they are, id much much rather be raised by them in a beautiful home with private schools and an abundance of organic meals and cupcakes everyday, then to be raised in a s*** hole with parents who swear and dont care about your education or happiness and just sit on the couch claiming from the goverment and a house smelling like dog crap (which i've seen in many friends i've had in the past) when i was like 5-8 i would constantly come on with black eyes, cuts and bruises because i just had freedom to play on my own, doesnt mean my parents need calling social services. wasting their time and Anna is right, people are frigging dying right now, its pathetic.

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But they are raised by parents who swear and don't give a fuck about their education or happiness Anna just sits on her ass filming or on her phone and I bet their house stinks of dog shit and piss too! They don't claim from the government because their kids are earning them a tidy sun at the moment! Plus Anna doesn't give a fuck about people dying either!!