Following on from the last thread…….
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Russell Brand accused of rape, sexual assaults and abuse
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@Bobbleowl90 you know this isn’t the case.
Baiting.
Baiting.
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From the end of #1 so can't quote ..I'm confused by the "How is Vernon" twixxer thing
I just checked and Nicola Schuller's (schullerinc) Instagram account is now private.
Jenny May Finn's is still open but there is no comment on Brand. She kept his photos too.
Laura Brand is still listed on The Found's website but you can only see her agent's email.
If my memory serves me right, Nicola did hair & makeup once for Russell by chance and ended up staying forever.
Jenny's case has always been strange - I remember someone saying that she was his superfan with a fan website for Russell and also ended up getting a job from him at a very young age and has worked for him ever since. Seems like both their careers have been mostly funded by Russell and his connections. I would not like to be in their shoes, especially Jenny's - you walk away from Russell now, you're probably left without a pay check and you've never had a chance to go through a typical career ladder and learn required skills.
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I've also always wondered what happened between Russell and his long-time manager Nik Linnen (John's son from John Noel Management)... They worked together for years and suddenly he changed his management with no comment from either party.
Very disappointed to read about Matt Morgan and how he enabled Russell's ugly behaviours. I never liked Matt's wife tbh but I now see why she was not happy with him and Russell being friends and Russell naming him in his book and saying that they had threesomes with women
Jenny May Finn's is still open but there is no comment on Brand. She kept his photos too.
Laura Brand is still listed on The Found's website but you can only see her agent's email.
If my memory serves me right, Nicola did hair & makeup once for Russell by chance and ended up staying forever.
Jenny's case has always been strange - I remember someone saying that she was his superfan with a fan website for Russell and also ended up getting a job from him at a very young age and has worked for him ever since. Seems like both their careers have been mostly funded by Russell and his connections. I would not like to be in their shoes, especially Jenny's - you walk away from Russell now, you're probably left without a pay check and you've never had a chance to go through a typical career ladder and learn required skills.
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I've also always wondered what happened between Russell and his long-time manager Nik Linnen (John's son from John Noel Management)... They worked together for years and suddenly he changed his management with no comment from either party.
Very disappointed to read about Matt Morgan and how he enabled Russell's ugly behaviours. I never liked Matt's wife tbh but I now see why she was not happy with him and Russell being friends and Russell naming him in his book and saying that they had threesomes with women
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(Bit off track but in the shot of Camden in the documentary they included the punk guy who spends all day in one strategic spot. Iykyk. *Allegedly* he also has some rumoured allegations against him, incase anyones teen daughters go to Camden for a day out xoxo)
Jenny apparently left to work with Justin Hawkins instead.
I remember at one point on air they were trying to get nicola a date and Russell mentioned he'd had sex with her before..
Hello! I am watching this case as I woke up to it. I’m from Melbourne, australia and we can’t even get access to channel 4. My partner and I signed up to channel 4 and then the documentary was unavailable to us. Do you know how else we can watch this? This guy has given me creep vibes my whole life and now I know why. I will never understand why Katy married him. He looks like a creep - gross man.
channel4.com and sign up. Just find a UK address - this is legit mine:
Buckingham Palace London SW1A 1AA United Kingdom
edit - sorry, I missed you'd signed up! Its available to me, Im not sure why.
another edit - I have a VPN and its likely switched on. Sorry to disappoint. Highly recommend a VPN for future viewings though.
It is on YouTube.
apologies this is a discussion about the programme not the actual programme.
The best bet would be to find a VPN. Most of the UK ones are free. Depending on what your browser is, Chrome, Firefox and Edge have them as add-ons.
The woman in LA should definitely pursue a civil lawsuit, she has enough evidence.
Has been known for a while and he has been confronted about it. I've seen him mentioned recently but it was it the accusation againist him?
Earlier this year it was made known that one his close associate punks was found with a fuckton of CP.
I think I must have become slightly desensitized because I don't find any of this shocking at all. I find it all quite predictable and unsurprising, especially the part about production companies pretty much letting their 'talent' have free reign to behave how they want. I suspect Russell's alledged behaviour isn't unusual, just more egregious and uncontrolled. For example, I've heard things about Steve Coogan over the years but reading between the lines he clearly had the self-control not to cross legal boundaries so blatently.
The man got a standing ovation at Wembley last night.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Defiant Russell Brand performs at Wembley amid sexual assault allegations - as it happened
Russell Brand thanked his fans for their support amid allegations made against him of sexual assault, emotional abuse and one instance of rape.
Can’t quote from the previous thread, but some people were wondering whether Katherine Ryan was talking about someone else: I’m pretty sure she said both their forename and surname were things you can do to cattle, and I can’t think of anyone else whose name that would work for.
Anyone else think the documentary didn’t have enough detail? I read the times article before watching and I was surprised how much was left out. For all the posters saying the documentary was ‘weak’ please read the times piece, the evidence they have is damning.
Does anyone have The Times piece without the paywall please?
Russell Brand
Innocent until proven guilty. If people make accusations they can back it up with hard evidence and then in court. A show like dispatches wouldnt do this based on hearsay
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Not sure if that link works, should take you to a post that links the piece.
I have worked with victims of rape & sexual assault, and alongside the police. Those specialist officers do a good job but it changed my view of whether I would report a rape or not if I’m honest.
Physical proof, ie a forensic examination to obtain DNA of a perpetrator has to be done quite soon after an assault and if you’ve washed/brushed your teeth/changed clothes then that window gets smaller - sperm in the vagina can be found up to 7 days later. Oral rape is even less time - often, women/victims of crime haven’t processed what’s happened or known where to go or what’s available within that timeframe. The other thing is that all a perpetrator has to claim is that the sex was consensual and any DNA evidence is meaningless (unless he claims only say oral and there’s evidence of other types of sex) and it becomes a he said/she said scenario and the victims life and phone etc are combed over in excruciating detail. In some cases, like we’ve seen in the media, previous partners and sexual habits are scrutinised. This can take years! And then 97% of the time the CPS declined to prosecute.
Tell me again women should always report. The system is fucked. Rape is practically legal.
Physical proof, ie a forensic examination to obtain DNA of a perpetrator has to be done quite soon after an assault and if you’ve washed/brushed your teeth/changed clothes then that window gets smaller - sperm in the vagina can be found up to 7 days later. Oral rape is even less time - often, women/victims of crime haven’t processed what’s happened or known where to go or what’s available within that timeframe. The other thing is that all a perpetrator has to claim is that the sex was consensual and any DNA evidence is meaningless (unless he claims only say oral and there’s evidence of other types of sex) and it becomes a he said/she said scenario and the victims life and phone etc are combed over in excruciating detail. In some cases, like we’ve seen in the media, previous partners and sexual habits are scrutinised. This can take years! And then 97% of the time the CPS declined to prosecute.
Tell me again women should always report. The system is fucked. Rape is practically legal.
Imo he's a clever and dangerous individual. I think he's guilty. I think undoubtedly there will be many many more victims who never come forward. I think like his PA said there were many women happy to go along with it. That's fine. It's all about consent.
The dangerous part is he's reinvented himself from a sexual predator into some sort of demi god with a huge following . A wordsmith who can manipulate any situation.
The dangerous part is he's reinvented himself from a sexual predator into some sort of demi god with a huge following . A wordsmith who can manipulate any situation.
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