This feels like (intentional or unintentional) love bombing. Her constant stream of flowery praise and adoration would make me very uncomfortable if I viewed Ruby as a friend but not THE best friend. Blakeney seems like she has a full on life in which Ruby has a part but to Ruby, Blakeney is the be all end all friend. It's almost like the goal is making the girl feel guilty for not responding to Ruby's approach in the same manner.
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Meanwhile, Ruby's heartfelt birthday message to her sister is:
"I'm told that today is the birthday of my sibling, Mirfa. Of all the sisters I've ever had, Marsha is apparently one of them. Our relationship is much like many sisters, in the sense that we share some amount of DNA. I have read hundreds of books on sisterhood, most of them just this week! I hope you have a day which is 24 hours long, Marlon."
Influencers need to end. I lately haven't even watched their videos because I don't want to give them any money.
So many people are struggling with paying rent, buying food and they're on their 20th holiday of the year. The inequality, their dissonance of the everyday reality is insane.
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So many people are struggling with paying rent, buying food and they're on their 20th holiday of the year. The inequality, their dissonance of the everyday reality is insane.
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Yeah I was thinking the poem is actually fairly decent to have written by Ruby
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Guys at this point I'm almost convinced she's in love with Blakeney 
I don’t think Ruby is intentionally queerbaiting, because that would require her to consider someone else's perception which we know she’s incapable of doing. I think she’s just absolutely obsessed with Blakeney because she’s the only FRAND who tolerates her crap.
Yeah, she tends to be obsessive with various things and persons. Plus, she certainly noticed that people liked Blakeney, and if it means more views, she'll keep a link with her.
Okay, I’m going to go for it. I mentioned this in the last thread and I was still hesitating, but. Since other people are talking about Ruby being queer, I feel like it’s okay if I share my ~theory~ at this point, haha. Without meaning to sound creepy, I’ve had this opinion for quite a while (way back before I was able to register on Tattle), and I’ve discussed it a fair bit with my own wife too from a kind of… dorky informal queer anthropology perspective. 
So here goes. Ruby gives me HUGE queer vibes and part of that is her obsession with childishness and being an old fashioned girl. One highly niche subtype of queer woman I have encountered over the years is someone who represses and internalises her feelings, who isn’t comfortable with anything around desire and sex, and instead takes refuge in these kinds of archaic identity boxes.
Sometimes these people do figure themselves out and retain the interests in a healthy way while accepting their identity (for example, collecting old children’s books as an interest isn’t pathological in itself). I can think of examples in both directions among women I’ve known - those clearly deeply repressing, and those who eventually accept and integrate.
One of the repressing ones was so like Ruby (but not an influencer so I can’t name her) it’s almost scary. She emotionally fetishised her own childlike qualities - she was still obsessively insisting that she’d been mistaken for a child when she was over thirty. She had an eating disorder and a host of other pathological behaviours and childhood-oriented fixations (many overlap precisely with Ruby’s).
I am not saying that any of this theory is definite proof that Ruby is a lesbian (or bisexual). I realise it’s her own life, her own sexuality, and that some people may be uncomfortable with detailed speculation. Part of why I decided to finally share this was because I feel like Ruby is the (awful) “road not taken” for me personally - that I was also immature, sheltered, repressed, and had at least a few similar traits. This is why I do still have some sympathy for her even though I think she does harm with her content. It was hard work to grow out of my childishness (my deceptively “safe”, sexless, “girl” persona) and accept I was an adult woman. But holy rit, am I glad I put the work in!
Even if I am totally wrong about where Ruby’s attraction lies and whatever it is she is hiding (or feels the need to hide from), repression and performance is never a recipe for happiness. All the gay men and women through the years who had to hide can tell you that. I don’t know why she would be repressing a straight sexuality, but anything is possible - even though my money is on queer, ultimately I just think she needs to stop playing the child. That way madness lies.
So here goes. Ruby gives me HUGE queer vibes and part of that is her obsession with childishness and being an old fashioned girl. One highly niche subtype of queer woman I have encountered over the years is someone who represses and internalises her feelings, who isn’t comfortable with anything around desire and sex, and instead takes refuge in these kinds of archaic identity boxes.
Sometimes these people do figure themselves out and retain the interests in a healthy way while accepting their identity (for example, collecting old children’s books as an interest isn’t pathological in itself). I can think of examples in both directions among women I’ve known - those clearly deeply repressing, and those who eventually accept and integrate.
One of the repressing ones was so like Ruby (but not an influencer so I can’t name her) it’s almost scary. She emotionally fetishised her own childlike qualities - she was still obsessively insisting that she’d been mistaken for a child when she was over thirty. She had an eating disorder and a host of other pathological behaviours and childhood-oriented fixations (many overlap precisely with Ruby’s).
I am not saying that any of this theory is definite proof that Ruby is a lesbian (or bisexual). I realise it’s her own life, her own sexuality, and that some people may be uncomfortable with detailed speculation. Part of why I decided to finally share this was because I feel like Ruby is the (awful) “road not taken” for me personally - that I was also immature, sheltered, repressed, and had at least a few similar traits. This is why I do still have some sympathy for her even though I think she does harm with her content. It was hard work to grow out of my childishness (my deceptively “safe”, sexless, “girl” persona) and accept I was an adult woman. But holy rit, am I glad I put the work in!
Even if I am totally wrong about where Ruby’s attraction lies and whatever it is she is hiding (or feels the need to hide from), repression and performance is never a recipe for happiness. All the gay men and women through the years who had to hide can tell you that. I don’t know why she would be repressing a straight sexuality, but anything is possible - even though my money is on queer, ultimately I just think she needs to stop playing the child. That way madness lies.
In England's realm, a girl of twenty-three, A lover of the stage, as wild as can be. Her heart a playground for the young and free, A Victorian child's soul, dancing with glee.
Her passion for the boards, a burning flame, She acts like Dickens' urchins, known by name. In tattered frocks, she plays with childish grace, Inhabiting a world from a bygone place.
Her accent, false, like Emma Watson's charm, An act to please, a skillful, clever arm. To gain attention, hearts, and accolades, She bends the truth, in masquerade parades.
She claims 200 books read in just a year, Short stories count, right? It's not crystal clear.
In desperate haste to prove herself grand, A myriad of accomplishments she's planned. But we know her secret, though she tries to hide, Netflix binges are where she takes her pride.
Candlestick, she says, means candle, how quaint! Tilting it by curtains, we fear it's no saint. A potential fire hazard, we hold our breath, With her antics, danger seems close to death.
Though flawed and fractured, like a cracked glass vase, Her dreams and whimsy, they do find a place.
May she learn, as years sweep her along, That truth and earnestness will make her strong. And in the limelight's glow, she'll finally see, The brightest star she'll be when she's just "she."
Her passion for the boards, a burning flame, She acts like Dickens' urchins, known by name. In tattered frocks, she plays with childish grace, Inhabiting a world from a bygone place.
Her accent, false, like Emma Watson's charm, An act to please, a skillful, clever arm. To gain attention, hearts, and accolades, She bends the truth, in masquerade parades.
She claims 200 books read in just a year, Short stories count, right? It's not crystal clear.
In desperate haste to prove herself grand, A myriad of accomplishments she's planned. But we know her secret, though she tries to hide, Netflix binges are where she takes her pride.
Candlestick, she says, means candle, how quaint! Tilting it by curtains, we fear it's no saint. A potential fire hazard, we hold our breath, With her antics, danger seems close to death.
Though flawed and fractured, like a cracked glass vase, Her dreams and whimsy, they do find a place.
May she learn, as years sweep her along, That truth and earnestness will make her strong. And in the limelight's glow, she'll finally see, The brightest star she'll be when she's just "she."
My fiancee and I watched the video and it was almost like it was shot in a lesbian movie for some moments. I think Ruby wouldn't be able to queerbate as she is just a bit too obvious to do something like that.
I think that Ruby is just obsessed with Blakney with her being her best friend and that Blakney is rather similar to her. I think that she sees Blakney as the be-all and end all friend, especially as they are so like apparently have a lot of similar interests. Admittedly, I could see Blakney outgrowing Ruby as her life seems to much more dynamic than Ruby especially when you compare university experiences.
For Ruby's potential future love life. I don't know why as it is very specific but I could just see her being one of those plain women who lives in a village and is very involved in the local community like in the 1930s and before who is married to the local reverend/vicar. She just gives me those vibes for some reason but I don't know if i it because she lives in the country and likes vintage clothing etc .
I think that Ruby is just obsessed with Blakney with her being her best friend and that Blakney is rather similar to her. I think that she sees Blakney as the be-all and end all friend, especially as they are so like apparently have a lot of similar interests. Admittedly, I could see Blakney outgrowing Ruby as her life seems to much more dynamic than Ruby especially when you compare university experiences.
For Ruby's potential future love life. I don't know why as it is very specific but I could just see her being one of those plain women who lives in a village and is very involved in the local community like in the 1930s and before who is married to the local reverend/vicar. She just gives me those vibes for some reason but I don't know if i it because she lives in the country and likes vintage clothing etc .
Long time lurker, but compelled to post.
Am I insane, or did Ruby say in her tiktok about her flight 'back home' that she finished reading Genuine Fraud and then STARTED reading Keegan's Small Things Like These - BUT in her most recent video about her trip with Blakeney at the 8.07 mark she is reading it during her 'slow day at the airbnb'???
This is a classic Ruby lie because in both videos she says that she had just started reading it and is "somehow" already X amount of the way through. Her need to constantly self-aggrandise in this minor way is painful and so poorly disguised.
Am I insane, or did Ruby say in her tiktok about her flight 'back home' that she finished reading Genuine Fraud and then STARTED reading Keegan's Small Things Like These - BUT in her most recent video about her trip with Blakeney at the 8.07 mark she is reading it during her 'slow day at the airbnb'???
This is a classic Ruby lie because in both videos she says that she had just started reading it and is "somehow" already X amount of the way through. Her need to constantly self-aggrandise in this minor way is painful and so poorly disguised.
Exactly. I think that this hyperfixation on childhood (whether it has been fostered by her parents or cultivated by herself) definitely discourages any healthy expression of sexuality, so that she is driven to repress it, and this repression ultimately also reinforces her infantilisation. In this sense, this intense friendship she seems to be experiencing with Blakeney becomes an acceptable avenue for any repressed romantic feelings she may have. Of course, it's also highly probable that she is ace - I'm just hypothesising here based on how I see her interact with Blakeney and her fascination with Emily Dickinson's poetry which someone else pointed out. Whatever the case, I hope she finds it in herself to be independent and meaningfully explore who she is.
I know it’s a controversial take but I think that truly ace people are quite rare. I fully believe asexuality exists, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near as common as the number of people who claim it as an identity currently.
While you’re right that we can’t rule it out for Ruby, let’s just say I would be extremely surprised. I could maybe see her coming out as ace at some point, though, because it would then make it hard for people to discuss her sexuality (as it would be perceived as invalidating her).
(For what it’s worth, I definitely don’t mean any disrespect to anyone who is reading this and IDs as ace or aro or both. I’m certainly not saying those things are unreal in an absolute sense - just that as with a lot of identity labels at the moment, they can be 100% real and also have issues around the self id part.)
While you’re right that we can’t rule it out for Ruby, let’s just say I would be extremely surprised. I could maybe see her coming out as ace at some point, though, because it would then make it hard for people to discuss her sexuality (as it would be perceived as invalidating her).
(For what it’s worth, I definitely don’t mean any disrespect to anyone who is reading this and IDs as ace or aro or both. I’m certainly not saying those things are unreal in an absolute sense - just that as with a lot of identity labels at the moment, they can be 100% real and also have issues around the self id part.)
Somehow this way of putting people in small cases by creating a relation between their tastes/hobbies and their romanticism/sexuality reminds me the old way of thinking that every slightly tomboy woman ( or just liking things usually considered as masculines like some sports, beer, cars etc...) is a lesbian.Okay, I’m going to go for it. I mentioned this in the last thread and I was still hesitating, but. Since other people are talking about Ruby being queer, I feel like it’s okay if I share my ~theory~ at this point, haha. Without meaning to sound creepy, I’ve had this opinion for quite a while (way back before I was able to register on Tattle), and I’ve discussed it a fair bit with my own wife too from a kind of… dorky informal queer anthropology perspective.
So here goes. Ruby gives me HUGE queer vibes and part of that is her obsession with childishness and being an old fashioned girl. One highly niche subtype of queer woman I have encountered over the years is someone who represses and internalises her feelings, who isn’t comfortable with anything around desire and sex, and instead takes refuge in these kinds of archaic identity boxes.
Sometimes these people do figure themselves out and retain the interests in a healthy way while accepting their identity (for example, collecting old children’s books as an interest isn’t pathological in itself). I can think of examples in both directions among women I’ve known - those clearly deeply repressing, and those who eventually accept and integrate.
One of the repressing ones was so like Ruby (but not an influencer so I can’t name her) it’s almost scary. She emotionally fetishised her own childlike qualities - she was still obsessively insisting that she’d been mistaken for a child when she was over thirty. She had an eating disorder and a host of other pathological behaviours and childhood-oriented fixations (many overlap precisely with Ruby’s).
I am not saying that any of this theory is definite proof that Ruby is a lesbian (or bisexual). I realise it’s her own life, her own sexuality, and that some people may be uncomfortable with detailed speculation. Part of why I decided to finally share this was because I feel like Ruby is the (awful) “road not taken” for me personally - that I was also immature, sheltered, repressed, and had at least a few similar traits. This is why I do still have some sympathy for her even though I think she does harm with her content. It was hard work to grow out of my childishness (my deceptively “safe”, sexless, “girl” persona) and accept I was an adult woman. But holy rit, am I glad I put the work in!
Even if I am totally wrong about where Ruby’s attraction lies and whatever it is she is hiding (or feels the need to hide from), repression and performance is never a recipe for happiness. All the gay men and women through the years who had to hide can tell you that. I don’t know why she would be repressing a straight sexuality, but anything is possible - even though my money is on queer, ultimately I just think she needs to stop playing the child. That way madness lies.
We can't define the romanticism and sexuality of a person based on their hobbies and style, especially when it's a youtuber used to have fake personas for the sake of making more views. Most of the time there's nothing queerbating, only people wanting to find queer elements in everything. That also reminds me this toxic trend when people used to ship youtubers back then and make fanarts of them doing uh... Sometimes not family friendly things.
I think it's because Blakeney is the only stable woman in Ruby's life (Clarice is an alcholic, Mafa has severe mental health issues as do most of Ruby's other friends if the way they dress and behave is any indication, grandma is a snobby judgemental weirdo) and so Ruby thinks she is this incredible being when all Blakeney is is just a normal girl.
I've always had the sense that deep down inside, Ruby desperately wants to be a 'cool girl' but for whatever reason feels completely inadequate and so she has taken it to the opposite extreme to mask her shortcomings.
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@Corneilya Fair enough, I definitely wasn’t expecting universal agreement! I’m just describing a phenomenon I’ve observed (and to some extent even experienced in myself) among queer women over the years, but you’re right that it’s ultimately anecdotal. There are also straight women who have similar tastes, for sure - it’s not, actually, Ruby’s tastes so much as her behaviours that define the theory for me, but I can see how maybe I seemed to be leaning on tastes a bit much in my post.
I’m not personally into shipping at all so I don’t see the correlation there, apologies! But I completely get that not everyone will see Ruby the way I do, and that is entirely reasonable.
I’m not personally into shipping at all so I don’t see the correlation there, apologies! But I completely get that not everyone will see Ruby the way I do, and that is entirely reasonable.
I think we all see the queerness in this video but I struggle to think that Ruby intended it or is actually harbouring secret feelings for Blakney. I think she’s trying to give more of a “girlhood” vibe. I also think the love-bombing is a desperate attempt to convince her viewers that she does indeed have a “best friend”… when actually she’s probably quite lonely as her circle of friends is very small. I feel like she uses the “I’ve got a best friend so why would I need lots of friends” attitude. We never really saw her branch out at Exeter (in her defence, covid didn’t help) but I think this is an extension of that.
Just to add, nothing wrong with having a small circle particularly if you’re happy/secure in your life but I think that Ruby’s situation is due to the way she isolates herself..
I think it’s important not to presume someone’s sexuality. Part of me feels like her sheltered life will probably end up with her meeting someone, getting married, having a nuclear family and living in a manor like mummy and daddy. Imagine if she did a Grace Booth and does it all in the space of a few months
Just to add, nothing wrong with having a small circle particularly if you’re happy/secure in your life but I think that Ruby’s situation is due to the way she isolates herself..
I think it’s important not to presume someone’s sexuality. Part of me feels like her sheltered life will probably end up with her meeting someone, getting married, having a nuclear family and living in a manor like mummy and daddy. Imagine if she did a Grace Booth and does it all in the space of a few months
What you’re actually saying, though, is that we shouldn’t presume someone has a non-straight sexuality. Straight is the default, and “not presuming” = presuming someone is straight. That’s exactly what you’re doing by speculating about her meeting “someone” (implicitly a dude) and having “a nuclear family” (by which you mean a male partner and children).
I am definitely not saying you’re wrong to have that opinion, or that you shouldn’t have posted! It absolutely could work out that way. Just that this too is an assumption about Ruby’s sexuality, as much as it is when someone suggests she could be queer.
So I’m queer myself and honestly forget that most of society does indeed see straight as a default. What was actually going through my mind when I wrote that post was almost feeling a bit protective of her (weird, not something I thought I’d say about Ruby!) but Kit Connor came to my mind. A young actor who felt like he was forced to come out because of so much online speculation about his sexuality.
But I totally hear you @coldestofspirits - on reflection I shouldn’t have added most of that last paragraph, wether it was intended as lighthearted or not, its totally hypocritical and goes against what I believe. Apologies for the lack of consideration there all. And thanks for helping keeping each other accountable.
But I totally hear you @coldestofspirits - on reflection I shouldn’t have added most of that last paragraph, wether it was intended as lighthearted or not, its totally hypocritical and goes against what I believe. Apologies for the lack of consideration there all. And thanks for helping keeping each other accountable.
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I totally see where you’re coming from, @londongirl92 - and it definitely isn’t my intention at all to add to an atmosphere that might pressure Ruby in any direction (I know that’s not what you were saying, I just want to clarify for anyone reading!). I think it’s probably hard for anyone who goes through those identity formation years in the spotlight, even if they’ve chosen to be (especially as the choice is made before the implications can really be known).
For all that I take issue with many things Ruby posts and does, I’m also not without sympathy. Thanks for your very kind reply!
For all that I take issue with many things Ruby posts and does, I’m also not without sympathy. Thanks for your very kind reply!
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