Preston Davey Trial #5

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Emsie

Emsie

ItsmeImtheproblemitsme said:
When I was younger I felt I couldn’t say what I really thought of IVF, it seemed a bit too much like ‘messing with nature’. As I’ve grown, I’ve met people for whom IVF has completely changed their lives for the better and I see children who were desperately wanted so I’ve changed my stance somewhat. I still don’t know how I feel about surrogacy, again feels like it depends on the circumstances and the parents to be. Adoption is always mentioned as the other option. As if it’s really that easy. It’s been easy for these cretins as they manipulated an already failing system. Adoption can be great in many cases but we hear so much about when it goes wrong. What should be better is 1) education in not giving birth to children that can’t be looked after and 2) a system that helps birth parents keep their babies when they want to. I know it’s not as simple as that though. I don’t wish to be ‘that woman’, but I think it’s deemed a ‘female issue’ rather than societal and that’s why it’s not looked into properly.
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I really don't agree that the adoption process is failing. I know hundreds of success stories, my own family being one.
There is support available for birth parents but they have to be willing to turn their life around. Chaotic parents know how to stop pregnancies already, they choose not to.
Adoption was still the right course of action for Preston giving his mother was who she is and his grandmother couldn't care for him. There is nothing in the process that could have flagged these two monsters because they had no previous history.
 
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ItsmeImtheproblemitsme

Emsie said:
I really don't agree that the adoption process is failing. I know hundreds of success stories, my own family being one.
There is support available for birth parents but they have to be willing to turn their life around. Chaotic parents know how to stop pregnancies already, they choose not to.
Adoption was still the right course of action for Preston giving his mother was who she is and his grandmother couldn't care for him. There is nothing in the process that could have flagged these two monsters because they had no previous history.
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Sorry, I hadn’t meant to offend, and the failing system I was meant to refer to was social services, which I’m sure has pockets of great work. And I suppose I was flippant in my suggestions but it’s because I’m so pissed off that we go through these cases and find they happen much more often than we think. I’m glad there are many adoptions that go ahead without any problems and of course I understand that they need to happen in certain circumstances!
 
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ItsmeImtheproblemitsme

TheMiceInTheShed said:
I agree. It's a hormonal response in many if not most, women, whether we like it or not.

Yes - there have been some brutally cruel women - no-one can deny it - but it is also a fact that the overwhelming majority of violent and/or sexual offenders are male.

It is particularly sad because it has taken decades for homosexual men to shake off the wholly unfair shadow of paedophilia, and now that will be set back in the eyes of many. I've never considered gay men to be any more of a risk than straight ones, but after this dreadful incident, I, personally, don't think that a gay male couple should be allowed to adopt a non-verbal child. That's my opinion - I know many will disagree with me, that's fine, but it's how I feel from deep in my gut.
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It’s sad that this case will probably be used against many a caring gay couple who maybe have already adopted a baby, or who are in the process of doing so. I hope those in the process or those who have recently adopted, will be welcoming their own SWs to assess more deeply when doing visits and are aware of any communication to be kept open with foster carers, and not use it as an opportunity to claim prejudice or suchlike.
 
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Happytobedivorced

God he’s an arrogant twit in the police video just posted- he oozes resentment and disdain. Really showed his true colours there.
 
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maytoseptember

maytoseptember

HotesTilaire said:
That’s why they are being posted, you seemed like you weren’t following the conversation about that being misogynistic bull
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It’s not misogynistic to say that women are hard wired to nurture and raise infants in a way men are not. It’s true. The existence of female child abusers doesn’t change that either.
 
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Ray_of_Sunshine

Ray_of_Sunshine

Emsie said:
I really don't agree that the adoption process is failing. I know hundreds of success stories, my own family being one.
There is support available for birth parents but they have to be willing to turn their life around. Chaotic parents know how to stop pregnancies already, they choose not to.
Adoption was still the right course of action for Preston giving his mother was who she is and his grandmother couldn't care for him. There is nothing in the process that could have flagged these two monsters because they had no previous history.
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The right course of action? It got him grape and killed ffs. His grandmother could care for him and she wanted to. What gives any outsider the right to say otherwise? She was his flesh and blood. All she asked for was support and time from social services (who I thought were all for keeping families together 🤔) but they were much more interested in handing a baby over to any old Tom, fool or Jamie.
 
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maytoseptember said:
It’s not misogynistic to say that women are hard wired to nurture and raise infants in a way men are not. It’s true. The existence of female child abusers doesn’t change that either.
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It is true. My husband is a fantastic, involved and loving father. But its me the kids come to when they want comfort, every time. It hurts his feelings but he said he gets it, a mother is a mother. I don't think gay men shouldn't be allowed to adopt, many gay couples make perfectly good parents
 
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LittleMy

LittleMy

My husband is a very hands-on dad, he’s always been amazing with our children and they love him to bits. They come to us equally for comfort these days, I can’t say that they prefer one of us over the other in that regard. They may have come to me more when they were little, but that’s because I was always with them/around more for them then as the stay at home parent.
 
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Closedeyes

Closedeyes

maytoseptember said:
Sounds similar to JV’s trajectory of school technician to teacher. Not that this could explain why he decided to commit heinous acts upon a baby. I doubt we will ever see a confession from him - he will deny it for the rest of his life.



I’ve said this before, but out of the few photos of Preston that have been circulated by the media, the one that gets used the most is such a strange photo. He looks stiff, pained and uneasy. I found it odd from the very first time I saw it, way before I knew what they did to him.
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Fully agree. The one in the cot I dislike too. It makes me feel uneasy. He’s such a beautiful perfect boy.
 
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