Preston Davey Trial #3

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As Orangesatsuma says, it looks like the social worker who 'pondered' was 'Oldham Council's independent reviewer' who visited the home after the third hospitalization. She had no concerns. The day before, Preston's own social worker (not JV / JFM's, if they had one) had visited and she also had no concerns. I think it was Preston's SW who sent the love-heart, i don't know if it was in the text mentioned below:

On the morning of 6 July 2023, Varley took Preston to hospital with an injury to his elbow.

He told hospital staff he was lowering the baby into his cot the night before when the child jumped or kicked his feet and he heard a pop or click in his left elbow.

An X-ray confirmed a small fracture and his arm was put in a cast.

Later the child's social worker, Amy Shepherdson, who had been in contact with the hospital, texted Varley to say: "Just to reassure you they said they had absolutely no concerns.

"U absolutely did the right thing."

Ms Shepherdson visited their home later that day - the day before Oldham Council's independent reviewer Magee did - noting that Preston looked pale and was not himself.

She wrote: "He tried to smile several times but then this changed to a very sad face and a little cry."
Dear God- that poor boy. Almost reaching out to someone he knew could help him. But she didn't act on her instinct. Unforgivable. That sentence is haunting. She wrote: "He tried to smile several times but then this changed to a very sad face and a little cry."
 
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As horrendous as it is, Vardy and JMF only cared about self gratification in the past and now it's self preservation. They're the most despicable inhumane "people". They're beyond any comprehension, it's impossible to understand unless you are equally deviant and depraved. I do pray that justice will be served and both will get lengthy sentences. Vardy whole life. JMF 30 years minimum. in Wakefield preferably
 
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There will be a serious case review after the court case. There always is when a looked after child dies and they tend to wait until after conviction.

I suspect they’ll say there was a lack of professional curiosity and cite lack of joined up thinking with social services and medical professionals. “Lessons will be learnt”
 
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There will be a serious case review after the court case. There always is when a looked after child dies and they tend to wait until after conviction.

I suspect they’ll say there was a lack of professional curiosity and cite lack of joined up thinking with social services and medical professionals. “Lessons will be learnt”
Aka a waste of time.
 
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It's probably just as simple as if they plead guilty they are going down for a very long time and they have to admit what they are. It's worth pleading NG just to see if you can somehow get away with it. I think most people would chance it.
Yeah I guess most people wouldn’t even be close to having these sort of charges against us so it’s impossible to say what we’d do. It’s just beyond most people’s comprehension, thank duck.
 
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There will be a serious case review after the court case. There always is when a looked after child dies and they tend to wait until after conviction.

I suspect they’ll say there was a lack of professional curiosity and cite lack of joined up thinking with social services and medical professionals. “Lessons will be learnt”
It might sound crass but I think they should rotate posters in the offices of social workers and hospital safeguarding leads, with pictures of the children lost to these cases and bullet points of the lessons that were supposed to have been learned. We as the public are told to ignore “what if I’m wrong” and focus on “what if I’m right” when it comes to safeguarding, it seems the professionals need reminding of that.
 
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It's probably just as simple as if they plead guilty they are going down for a very long time and they have to admit what they are. It's worth pleading NG just to see if you can somehow get away with it. I think most people would chance it.
BIB - most people who were prepared to torture and abuse a tiny child , anyway. You're right. They've got nothing to lose. Whether they admit their guilt, or are found guilty by the jury, they will be lucky to see the light of day again. They might as well go for it. And they'll also have all of those memories to warm them in the chilly nights in their cells. How they'd made the court dance to their tune, and that likely none of the people involved - jury, barristers, court officers, public in the gallery, and most especially Preston's foster mother - will ever be the same again.

They still exert their power.
 
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Dear God- that poor boy. Almost reaching out to someone he knew could help him. But she didn't act on her instinct. Unforgivable. That sentence is haunting. She wrote: "He tried to smile several times but then this changed to a very sad face and a little cry."
It's heart-breaking. Poor, desperate little soul.

I am so ANGRY! 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡
 
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It might sound crass but I think they should rotate posters in the offices of social workers and hospital safeguarding leads, with pictures of the children lost to these cases and bullet points of the lessons that were supposed to have been learned. We as the public are told to ignore “what if I’m wrong” and focus on “what if I’m right” when it comes to safeguarding, it seems the professionals need reminding of that.
Not crass at all.

It is so obvious that it should be standard practice.
 
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They've got nothing to lose. Whether they admit their guilt, or are found guilty by the jury, they will be lucky to see the light of day again. They might as well go for it. And they'll also have all of those memories to warm them in the chilly nights in their cells. How they'd made the court dance to their tune, and that likely none of the people involved - jury, barristers, court officers, public in the gallery, and most especially Preston's foster mother - will ever be the same again.

They still exert their power.
I'm not brave / strong enough to follow the trial closely. But I glance at the thread here from time to time. That is exactly it. I remember reading an article, I think it was about a murder trial here in Ireland. And that was basically what the writer said, the defendant(s) have nothing to lose at this point, by pleading not guilty.

I hope they spend the rest of their rotten, disgusting, depraved lives behind bars. My heart is broken for that defenceless little baby, and for those who loved him.
 
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It might sound crass but I think they should rotate posters in the offices of social workers and hospital safeguarding leads, with pictures of the children lost to these cases and bullet points of the lessons that were supposed to have been learned. We as the public are told to ignore “what if I’m wrong” and focus on “what if I’m right” when it comes to safeguarding, it seems the professionals need reminding of that.
This kind of does happen at least in my school, when having safeguarding training we look at these cases, including photos of the children, and believe me it really hammers it home. "It could happen here" is how we are trained to think....ie be suspicious if you think something is not quite right. That's why I'm so shocked that more probing was not done.

Edited to add I agree this should also be done amongst social workers!
 
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What I think was so sad too is at this point when they have Preston, they had not officially adopted him, so they must have had more intervention ( more social work, health visitors and also additional visitors eager to meet him) yet they still according to evidence abused him. they could not even wait till he was officially theirs. ( sorry even writing that makes me feel sick].
I think the mother will take the stand in his defence, just got a feeling….
 
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The mother was not around or involved in any of this so would not be a witness in his defence.
 
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As horrendous as it is, Vardy and JMF only cared about self gratification in the past and now it's self preservation. They're the most despicable inhumane "people". They're beyond any comprehension, it's impossible to understand unless you are equally deviant and depraved. I do pray that justice will be served and both will get lengthy sentences. Vardy whole life. JMF 30 years minimum. in Wakefield preferably
Yes, imagine them going from their "show home" to Monster Mansion?
One will go to Wakefield and the other to Frankland, I reckon.
I think JMF has been on remand in Frankland already.
I would love to know how they are coping in prison, I can't imagine they are coping well.
 
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The mother was not around or involved in any of this so would not be a witness in his defence.
I think Aberscot was referring to JV's mum, and I agree - I think she will make an appearance in the defence, whether she's volunteered to or been called by them in his defence, given she was around so much.

I think she can be called by them and have to appear? Especially if she's still (sadly) blinkered and on the fence. :(
 
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I’m also guessing plenty of breaks this week due to one or both of these slugs feeling “ unwell “
It gives them precious thinking time sadly.
 
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There will be a serious case review after the court case. There always is when a looked after child dies and they tend to wait until after conviction.

I suspect they’ll say there was a lack of professional curiosity and cite lack of joined up thinking with social services and medical professionals. “Lessons will be learnt”
The trouble is lessons arent being learnt!

It feels like with austerity, things are getting worse. And i also think social media....and the increased sexualisation of stuff/access to photos of porn etc cant help. Are there enough experienced social workers and health visitors for instance? do they have enough time to do their work and check on the children in their care properly? Or is it like care for the elderly, where its often a quick 10 minute visit, without the social chit chat that really gets under the surface to see how someone is actually coping.?

I also think they need to look again at how stuff like safeguarding works. It feels like such a beaureaucratic process, pages and pages of paperwork, pages and pages of being sensitive and not offending anyone, maybe it should be more about gut feelings and loads more informal checks, if a looked after child is hospitalised, even with what looks like an ''innocent'' injury, send in more social workers and health visitors to check. And give them the right to ask intrusive questions and not just follow a check list.

The concerns of the initial foster carer, should have been listened to for instance.
 
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I think Aberscot was referring to JV's mum, and I agree - I think she will make an appearance in the defence, whether she's volunteered to or been called by them in his defence, given she was around so much.

I think she can be called by them and have to appear? Especially if she's still (sadly) blinkered and on the fence. :(
Ahh I see that makes sense, apologies for the misunderstanding.
 
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I think she can be called by them and have to appear? Especially if she's still (sadly) blinkered and on the fence.
I don’t know how it works tbh. There’s just been a trial for a murder local to me and the murderer’s girlfriend (only witness to the murder) wasn’t called as a witness at all bizarrely, they didn’t even read a statement of hers out.
 
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