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LennyBriscoe

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Oh wait. Hang in, no didn’t they split up.
You clearly feel strongly about the PS situation and you have posted some useful information. But I don’t think you should post things that could be damaging to someone without being sure you’re not wrong
 
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Sassysaz

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I think people need to remember that when schofe became famous being gay was not classed as “normal” like it is now. Thankfully now you can be whatever you want to be but nobody should be forced to “come out” if Dec is gay (I don’t think so) so what, at the end of the day what has sexuality got to do with anything? It doesn’t define you. Rylan is making money because he’s good at his job not because he’s “out” 🙄
 
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Piff paff puff

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Genuinely if there are people here who represent Schofe or even are him. They can get to fuck because they’re a part of the problem with showbiz and the whole reason this site and thread exists.

Problem is they (celebs) all think they have a right to a private life. But I’m sorry, the media industry doesn’t work like that and they’re naive to apply basic human response and behaviour to something so complex.

Fact is TV relies on the naivety of its viewer. But then they cry when the viewer gets one up on them or calls them out on their bull shit. The media industry is one massive mix of bullshit though let’s be fair. They make shows and rely on the writers to review it, but hate on those who dislike it and rely on fans to watch it, but don’t like it when the audience criticises or switches off. They’re constantly feeding lies but don’t like being called out on those lies.

They’re a bunch of overpaid individuals who are the face of the show, but shit on the ones who put them on that platform (sorry that was a bit ranty)
And this is why I haven't watched telly in decades.
 
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Donski

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But to be fair I'm sure Michael Aspel and Co never splashed a front page story about faked army torture pictures, nor used his paper to pursue personal campaigns against anyone who criticised him, or thought Heather Mills was just the woman for Paul McCartney, or gave the green light for masses of illegal phone taps, or crept deep up Trump's fundament before belatedly scrambling back out again. He's an arrogant, self-obsessed, amoral, opportunistic, foghorned bonehead of the highest order.



Correct. And Schofe has chosen him as his main role model. That's why I said the bit about his choice in role models, followed by the pictures of the role model.
Ah apologies - not quite with it this morning
 
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Sassysaz

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From everything we know so far, the two situations are totally different. Powerful elements were trying to distort what happened with CF and destroy her (immediate sacking by ITV, constant misinformation by the tabloids, labels of her being a domestic abuser, a photo sinisterly sold (by who?) to the papers showing blood on their bed, with the accompanying lie that it was her bf's blood when it was in fact her own blood, police giving salacious / misleading quotes, no urgent help given to her when she was in fact the one who was vulnerable on the night in question etc etc).

With PS the mounting evidence shows there is something that should be investigated (potentially by police, certainly by his employers) and yet instead, all the stops have been pulled out to cover this up and silence everyone and protect him. Media being allegedly gagged, PR consultancy allegedly doing damage limitation to the tune of £30K a week, full support of his employers, peers, and a now compliant media who never discuss PS without the 'brave' prefix. Hasn't lost any of his work or sponsorships (a new wine out with Waitrose - his rep is just fine apparently).

No comparison there, even remotely. Polar opposites in fact.

Don't forget what Katie Piper had to say too.
To me though without “victims” and hard evidence there is no case ? People would just stop working with him if they believed he was a predator surely he wouldn’t be getting new campaigns with Waitrose? I’m not saying he wasn’t involved with the runner but the runner doesn’t seem to be making any claims against him or mentally suffering from it so what has he actually done wrong to be linked with the likes of jimmy Saville. I find it all very odd.
 
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strange addiction

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Another one.
Fucking smugfuckface.

I think his wife will have known for a long time hes gay (I've heard it was a lavender marriage) I mean, it's great that they all seem to be able to carry on but I'll never get over the fact that he deceived the public for 20 odd years
 
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Ginger_roots

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I really don't understand why you say 'overly enamoured'. Do you mean 'in love and brokenhearted'? 'Too clingy' and 'stalker' - have you ever been in love? Dumped? Brokenhearted?

I find your words obscene.
I used the term overly enamoured in the respect that he was possibly/probably in awe of PS, I can't see what's so obscene about that to be honest. I would say that would be true from whichever angle you look at this from.

You realise you don't know if he was in love or broken hearted? You've plucked that out of thin air.

Agree - this is what I meant by enablers and apologists in my previous post. You find them everywhere.

I can't even begin to reply to that post tbh.
For every "enabler" and "apologist" I see someone taking a step back and looking st this objectively with the facts given.
 
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Huph

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He only has 2 daughters.


Well yes but surely she would care that there are so many rumours of him and MM?
I wonder what she is thinking of all the rumours, she probably would’ve thought, once upon a time anyway, that she knew Phil inside out and that he wouldn’t dare get involved with a young boy but now she may be saying that she never really knew him at all, that’s some level of con artistry to lie all those years about your sexuality.

Sick of these fuckers being told that they are brave etc etc for coming out at age fucking 58, no brave would have been to be honest to yourself and fiancée BEFORE you walked her up that aisle and basically ruined her life, plus would we be saying the same if he had left her to go fuck other women, nah we would not.😡😡

What age is MM? I seen a pic of him yesterday via this site and he and Phil were doing Phil’s segment of “how to....(whatever it’s called)” and MM looked about 16 so what did he actually look like when he WAS 16 then?! He must have looked 12, PS is a paedophile and I wish MM would speak up and not let money do his talking for him, so what if he has to give the cash back that he received, PS would have been doing something illegal by grooming and ‘mentoring’ these young guys, what a fucking creep, I want to boycott ITV and write to them and say that I, we, want a full investigation into PS and his creepy ways, was there ever young girls being ‘mentored’ by PS on TM to be in showbiz?! If not then perhaps because he isn’t attracted to them....
I did send an email to ITV to complain about his behaviour during lockdown and also said I won't watch any programme he's on but didn't even receive a reply.
 
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Ginger_roots

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A lot of this has come from industry insiders (a WhatsApp group of ITV crew who were discussing it had messages leaked, a paparazzi guy posted on FB etc)

This hasn't come out of thin air. The allegations are horrible and they are all over the internet. If they weren't true then why wouldn't one side or the other be aggressively refuting them?

Injunctions do work - of course they do. Laughable to say they don't. The media do not flout gagging orders.

Famous people have PR - who said they didn't?

Lots of straw men / plainly untrue arguments at play here.
Where are the "leaked WhatsApp" convo screenshots confirming PS is a prolific paedophile?

Of course the media don't flout injunctions, I didn't say they did and indeed for a very narrow and definite demographic they do work. But thanks to social media they're largely worthless. That's all irrelevant though because that wasn't the point I was making. My point was about advertising agencies using him, injunctions or not, they wouldn't use him if their was a whole load of injunctions about him being a paedophile.

Regardless of the truth no PR person in the land would get their client to publicly deny or even acknowledge the stuff that's being said about him online.

I think a lot of people on this thread have totally lost sight of what they're doing. "Straw men/plainly untrue arguments" - are you trying to be ironic? All I've said is that it's wrong to casually call someone a paedophile when there isn't any evidence to support that. I can't even hold my hands up and say innocent until proven guilty and all that kind of thing because if you've read my other posts you'll have seen I was there before it became public knowledge about Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris and it was obvious they were guilty and I was quite comfortable in calling them paedophiles. There was too much stuff out there to ignore. Having read all of these threads and a lot of other stuff, I can honestly say I feel there is only enough evidence to say that PS is a bit of a nob. I just wish people would think twice before writing some of the things I have read here, it just makes them look stupid.

Totally agree. Everyone in this industry are aware of the details and are continuing to collaborate, employ, work with PS. They may not really want to touch him with a barge pole but at present thet have no legal reason not to.
OK brilliant.
Everyone in this industry are aware of what details?
Let me get this straight too for my own piece of mind... So because he's not been arrested (?) or imprisoned (?) for being a paedophile, people are forced to work with him and if they refused to work with him it wouldn't be legal?

Think what you like about me, my language, my conduct and my diction.

But who are you to judge what’s said on a website called Tattle Life which is a gossip site? It’s called Gossiping.

If I was a member of the tabloid press and had an audience of millions I would take what I say more seriously and tread softly.

but I’m not and I don’t. What are we averaging on at the min? A few likes a piece? Hardly ruining someone’s life is it.
I can't reason with logic like this unfortunately.
 
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Ginger_roots

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I definitely don’t think he married bu accident, it was definitely to further his career and I do believe he loved Steph, in all honesty I just don’t want PS to be this creep that I truly suspect him to be, I know that sounds mad as he is a TV presenter and not someone I know but I just wish it wasn’t so because if PS is a creep then who do we trust really, iyswim.
We might not know that he's a creep but we do have it on good authority that he's an arrogant arsehole. Well you can see how arrogant he is from the stuff he puts out.
I don't know if Holly uses cocaine.

I do know John Leslie got the sack when a newspaper printed photos of him snorting it.
So if she does use it, she should be sacked too, but that's what it all comes down to.... Proof. There needs to be some.

Leslie was photographed so it couldnt be denied or ignored.



Her pupils look huge there.
I have never taken drugs and never been around anyone else who takes them but I've read that dilated pupils is a sign.
Forgive my naivete but couldn't a strong camera flash straight in her eyes do that to her pupils?
John Leslie was photographed doing it a few days after he was named by Matthew Wright as Ulrika's alleged rapist, I always thought that was quite opportune timing for This Morning bosses because I imagine there were question marks over his position. They were in such a strange position too, UJ didn't directly or accuse anyone by name so they probably weren't sure how to deal with it. JL always maintains it was a TV producer who got him into coke too.
The vast majority of people on TV take drugs of some sort so it's a bit naive to say they should all be sacked.
 
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