Parenting Hell Podcast #5

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Can anyone bare to listen? Can’t stand Giovanna at the best of times, will this just be a cocktail of insufferable twee whinging mixed with superior entitled whinging?
 
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It’s absolutely screaming nepo wife at this stage. This is absolutely going to be addressed in a rant but people are entitled to their opinion.
I am a big fan of Rob and Josh, Especially Josh. But anyway there is no denying the nepo wife slant here, she would never get that book across the line without a famous husband. I think they've lost sight of how unrelatable they are now as a couple, they used to be the couple next door and now they are minted, living very different lives to the parenting hell fan base.

Maybe rob talks rubbish on the pod and it's all lies but what from what I gather he's a very hands on parent when he's not away working, far more than many men I know. She just isn't from the real world so her pov doesn't land well.
 
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I am a big fan of Rob and Josh, Especially Josh. But anyway there is no denying the nepo wife slant here, she would never get that book across the line without a famous husband. I think they've lost sight of how unrelatable they are now as a couple, they used to be the couple next door and now they are minted, living very different lives to the parenting hell fan base.

Maybe rob talks rubbish on the pod and it's all lies but what from what I gather he's a very hands on parent when he's not away working, far more than many men I know. She just isn't from the real world so her pov doesn't land well.
To be fair, I think that’s partly what she means in parts- yes he sounds better than many dads I know, but that’s literally the bare minimum as far as we know. He drives them around and spends time with them, well done Rob. Just because another dad does nothing, doesn’t mean every dad that does little, is brilliant. I understand what she means in some regard, my parents think my husband is amazing because he’ll spend a day with the kids if I’ve picked up an extra day at work or choose to go out for the day with my friends- and doesn’t moan about it. But does he offer water or drinks? No. Has he ever forgotten to feed her as a young toddler? Yes. Does he know what clothes size she is, knowing what to put her in, or will he suddenly find the stash of clothes in the charity shop pile and put them on her? It’s these little things that we brush off with a laugh, but when they build up, I reckon they’re a big cause of divorce! 😂
 
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I just saw Rob’s right to reply video…is she really this bitter or is it all just dramatised for the book release? Like they are going back to early days of not getting time to yourself. Their girls are in school years now, surely that’s not an issue anymore. I would get it if she was working and was having to do everything else as well but they are so unbelievably privileged it’s actually a bit sickening listening to her.
 
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I'm really lucky in my relationship because my husband was a single parent for 2 years and prior to that had an alcoholic wife who was usually unfit to parent their kids. So he had to do everything.

We work really well as a team and he does a lot, more than me at times but I'm still the one who is in charge of times/dates/appointments/school stuff. But then he does all the house maintenance side of things, always makes sure there's loo roll in the house (house of 7,its very important 🤣). Left to me we'd regularly run out and have to resort to squares of kitchen roll!
 
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Had a listen to Josh's separate podcasts and it is lovely to listen to him being enthusiastic about a subject and get to fully explore it. Still enjoy the Parenting Hell podcast, but didn't realise how much Rob takes over a conversation until I listened to Josh with someone else on a podcast. I agree with a previous post that Rob seems to know his place with Rom, and Rom & Josh are both quite chilled in their demeanor, but Rob appears to respect Rom's opinion more.
 
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I like her. I understand why people are annoyed because she is in a lucky position. However the mental load is still a big duck off never ending list no matter how much money you have. My husband is hands on, helpful, loves our daughter to bits but does he know what homework is due, arrange dentist appointments, get her hair cut, update clothes etc nope nope nope. That's the mental load. I feel like I have a never ending to do list.
Ive downloaded an app to try and help me organise the housework but I need someone to help me navigate the endless life admin.
 
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I like her. I understand why people are annoyed because she is in a lucky position. However the mental load is still a big duck off never ending list no matter how much money you have. My husband is hands on, helpful, loves our daughter to bits but does he know what homework is due, arrange dentist appointments, get her hair cut, update clothes etc nope nope nope. That's the mental load. I feel like I have a never ending to do list.
Ive downloaded an app to try and help me organise the housework but I need someone to help me navigate the endless life admin.
Nobody’s disputing the mental load argument, but what is she expecting anybody to do about it? Men just are wired differently, I know fantastic dads/ husbands/ partners and they each may do the odd bit here and there, but they don’t feel the mental load. They wouldn’t call it the mental load. I think women have been mega stressed since we got the vote and the chance to work. I really don’t think we’re biologically wired to do it all and it’s showing in society. I think she’s possibly slightly resentful because she can’t work in the relatively normal sense of the word, especially as she gave up her job due to illness alongside Rob’s career. Also, because we’re all so busy, we don’t have chance to read books about how drained other people are, especially those who aren’t working and live a very privileged life!
 
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I think our generation has made parenting too hard. Its become like a spectator sport. My mum didnt know how many activities other people's kids were doing, what their houses looked like, what everyone was eating for dinner, matching Christmas pyjamas, half term getaways etc. If you're a mum now there is a lot of noise out there about everything we could and should be doing. I think that's why the mental load feels too much at times.
 
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I think our generation has made parenting too hard. Its become like a spectator sport. My mum didnt know how many activities other people's kids were doing, what their houses looked like, what everyone was eating for dinner, matching Christmas pyjamas, half term getaways etc. If you're a mum now there is a lot of noise out there about everything we could and should be doing. I think that's why the mental load feels too much at times.
Yes! Totally agree. I can totally see how people end up burnt out, constantly comparing. I’ve decided to just try to go with the flow and try to ask my children what they actually want to do- which usually is something relatively mundane. Most of the activities I’ve been booking is stuff I’d have loved as a kid but wasn’t available, but that doesn’t mean they’ll love it.
Don’t even start me on Christmas Eve boxes and the damn elf …. 🤣
 
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Robs story about his younger kid being bored and complaining whilst he was working and Lou was busy with the other daughter learning how to use a sewing machine - I felt like saying woopdeydoo 😂 that’s life - my wean moans about being fed up all the time despite him having hundreds of pounds worth of stuff to play with. Grow a pair and tell her to go amuse herself ffs, they come across soooo spoilt. Hadn’t he taken her swimming anyway!
 
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Robs story about his younger kid being bored and complaining whilst he was working and Lou was busy with the other daughter learning how to use a sewing machine - I felt like saying woopdeydoo 😂 that’s life - my wean moans about being fed up all the time despite having hundreds of pounds worth of stuff to do - tell her to go amuse herself ffs, they come across soooo spoilt.
Kids that age are just annoying anyway😆. Chuck an iPad at her and ha
 
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Good point about making things hard. Plus kids need to be bored and learn how to entertain themselves or just sit and be bored, boredom isn't going to harm them. I remember long Sunday afternoons with only Airwolf to look forward to on the TV and the exciting Kays catalogue to flick through and decide which toys I wanted.

My cousin has a gorgeous little girl who does everything. Their Facebook updates are never ending. She's 7 and does horseriding, a martial art, stage school and swimming. At Christmas my cousin was telling me on the coming Saturday they were going to the Polar Express experience and then Sunday was Lapland UK. The weekend before she'd been to the Westend and Hamleys with her mum and Nanna. We live NW England.

Firstly, the cost - they both have OK jobs but I know they've got a mega mortgage and new cars which must be on a payment plan. Secondly - the kid must be exhausted. Let alone them two.

My kids would have either done a trip to London, Lapland or Polar Express as a big one-off treat. Not all 3 within a week.

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I think our generation has made parenting too hard. Its become like a spectator sport. My mum didnt know how many activities other people's kids were doing, what their houses looked like, what everyone was eating for dinner, matching Christmas pyjamas, half term getaways etc. If you're a mum now there is a lot of noise out there about everything we could and should be doing. I think that's why the mental load feels too much at times.
Exactly this. Lou has posted some quotes from the book on Instagram, which pretty much allude to this. I did one library rhyming type class when mine were young, other than that we visited friends or family at their houses because anything else was too much pressure, stress and expense.

I don't deny there is a mental load which more often than not falls on women, but all the social media bull makes people think they should be doing stuff that they really do not need to do.
 
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Jesus Christ, listening to Tuesday's episode and the bit about three quarters of the way in where they just have a semi-argument over working styles, with Rob trying to constantly one-up and mock was hard listening!
Also more of the same about how difficult their jobs are 🫠😴

Get back to actual parenting or parent shaggers for the love of god, this is as they accurately state in the episode title, bad podcasting.

Although maybe don't get back to actual parenting because Rob's bit about his youngest being bored is insane, she presumably has a house full of toys, craft bits, books etc, her dad had already taken her swimming, just be bored and figure it out. Such a non-issue.
 
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Rob said he hated trying new things & then when Josh just tried to say that’s what’s so different about them in a good way, because he always wants to try something new and challenging
Rob then got all defensive about how it’s actually because he does soooo many new things on Rob & Romesh - I’m surprised it was kept on it was an awkward listen
 
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I haven’t listened for a while but I decided whilst doing the ironing (does that make me the default parent?) I gave Tuesday‘s episode a go …15 minutes and Rob mentioning at least 3 times he’d been to Dubai for 24 hours and repeatedly saying to myself let Josh speak I had to turn it off. It’s so disappointing because I always looked forward to listening.
 
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It's worse now you can see them too - Josh looks at Rob as if to say "are you done" so many times 😂

Rob cuts Josh off all the time to speak about himself, and it's never anything worth butting in for. His self entitlement seems to be rubbing off on his "bored" children too!
 
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Eurgh I think they need to call it quits. It used to be brilliant but Rob is a pain in the a now. Still love Josh but it's painful listening now.
 
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