Owen Jones

[Foxvint]

Not being alive to push for lbgt rights is certainly a hindrance as is living in a permanent state of trauma. Surviving in a war zone isn't conducive to any progressive advances.

About the Wiki edits, if Jews are saying the changes he made were straight out the antisemites playbook (which they are, it's why it's still frequently brought up on twitter despite it being years ago) who are we to argue it's mostly linguistic. And why was he constantly editing the Hamas entry anyway? He's spent over a decade on a large media platform treating Israel like one homogeneous mass when there's Israeli leftists braver than Owen will ever be who put themselves in harms way opposing Netanyahu's government. He also did a 'yes but...' response to being shown footage of the October attacks. There's no but there. Saw a similar thing with Pro Palestinian feminists downplaying or simply ignoring the rape of Israeli women in that attack. Rape suddenly ok if they think the victim shouldn't be there in the first place? I found the hypocrisy and blind spots on display revolting.

If Jews are by and large are saying Owens commentary on the situation has contributed to a hostile environment for them to the point where he's booted out a gay jewish party, who are we to argue.

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

Talcum X is such a horrible little antisemite.

I am so glad Hadley Freeman escaped The Guardian. Between the anti-semitism and the progressive misogyny, he must have been a nightmare of a colleague for a smart Jewish woman.

 

[Mark81]

I just see the Green Party as the same as Reform, just at the opposite extreme. They are both fixated on a couple of issues they keep banging on about with no real idea how to more widely govern, and neither party listens to/considers the other side of the argument and that they might be too simplistic in their approach. Both come across as arrogant and helping to further divide the country.

 

[Yel]

I'm quite enjoying twitter today

 

[Beverley Macker]

Yeah, apologising to a woman must’ve killed him inside.

 

[IcanSpellBéchamel]

OMG, he's just written a 27 (so far) tweet thread all about how he doesn't take coke, no siree bob, and anyway look at this squirrel over here JK Rowling not saying anything about Gaza why won't women talk about what I want to talk about and anyway I don't take coke I just talk very fast and have ADHD and look at JKR not talking about Gaza....

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

To be fair, their legal name is Amy Gardiner-Gibson, and it is the name they are often referred to by people who have visited them, and it appears to be the name they were using until recently. Also they are on remand in a Women's prison. So unless you are following very specific news sources you would have no idea of their pronouns.

And unless you subscribe to gender woo, you wouldn't give a fuck.

Amu Gib sounds like a place where Indiana Jones (no relation) would go, to search for the lost, doomed fuck.

 

[LoopyLou47]

book Chavs was offensive to me as a WC person (single parent immigrant family, mum dinner lady, to give my bona fides since lots of posh people on Left Twitter pretend to be WC these days, thankfully no one on Tattle ever does this) as it was transparently aimed at the MCs and completely misrepresented WC history and values. His other book on the Establishment was poorly researched pap that failed to take into account Establishment organisations like the BBC and Guardian which practise nepotism, cronyism and preach at people.

Absolutely. I wasn't able to articulate what offended me about his rantings, but you have. He is patronising and performative. The Hard Left have redefined the Working Class to include themselves, when most of them are wealthy, middle class and privately educated. They've probably only met a wc person who came to clean their house. The bullying, racism and sexism revealed at Channel 4 and The Guardian ( including by OJ) reveals how nasty they are, and use the excuse that they are ' progressive' to trade over people behind the scenes.

 

[nothanksbabes]

Why ask for medical advice when you are actually receiving treatment in a hospital ffs?! Performative bullshit. It's a private matter. Attention seeking little twerp.

Tragic, attention seeking little twat.

 

[Mr Krabs]

If we ever get to a second thread (which we probably won’t because OJ is boring as fuck), his tweet should be the thread title.

 

[chizontiz]

Honestly, the Owen Jones’ of the world/tattle need to have their phone and all social media taken off them and be sent to live in some kind of self-sufficient commune for six months. It would do him the world of good.

For all his griping, he has no idea how to actually participate, build, or even simply exist in a community. Society terrifies him (understandable), but he’s also just as petrified of himself (also understandable), so instead of just fucking off and leaving the rest of us to get on with it, he screams and screams and screams. Never fully separate, never safely attached. Annoying, innit.

 

[nothanksbabes]

Agree. I'm sick to death of hearing about what people like to do sexually and have no qualms about judging them for it if they shove it in my face.

I'm an out and proud kink shamer . The only thing more tragic than some grotty bloke being a slave to his sad little boner is him thinking it makes him special or interesting.

 

[Mr Krabs]

 

[panda_eyes]

Owen Jones is Jack Monroe and I claim my five pounds.

 

[moldwarp]

MA in US History hahahahahahaaaaa

Even better, he spent most of it holed up in his room trying and failing to re-edit Wikipedia to, in his own favourite phrase, spread misinformation about the Yom Kippur War.

That was at Oxford, which has a myriad of amazing college bars, societies, clubs and of course the Oxford Union on offer where the nation's Big Brains can desport themselves and have fun.

And Owen spent his free time trying to own Israel on the internet.

Antisemitism truly is a form of brain rot. Clearly degenerative too.

 

[Yel]

His journalism is terrible. Always going on "that is a fact" or "this is the truth" for complicated intertwined topics where there's no black or white but thousands of different shades of grey.

 

[Mark81]

He would be all over anyone else who did that and start a set his followers on them too, especially if it was against any other race or minority.

 

[Whatevesmate]

He's essentially saying that because his dad died of aggressive prostate cancer that gives him the right to dehumanise Biden proving what an unethical, narcissistic little cunt he is. Julie Bindel was right - he's Talcum X.

 

[DoubleEntendre]

While I dislike OJ as much as the next person and think he shouldn't be anywhere near people canvassing for by-elections (he does more harm than good), I do think not closing a door behind them is a very strange reason to give for not wanting to for someone, especially given there are actual far right marches happening in Manchester right now.

If I was working on minimum wage in a cafe and a group of people couldn't be arsed to close the door behind them - in the middle of winter - I wouldn't feel at all fondly towards them, particularly if they were Greens who are meant to be caring for the environment. They were just assuming that the workers in the cafe would do that, because they couldn't be bothered. And then Little Owen mocks them all over the internet!

 

[TheDragonWithAFlagon]

he's getting shit left, right and centre because of this -

Would a male confronting him be referred to as unhinged, or is that a word he only uses for people he wouldn't want to shag him?