Olivia Neill

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peachpuppy

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Lara98 said:
I know that’s why I said yourself or someone you love however I agree she has a lot of potential but if she was going through it I would hope people would try and help her, rather than sit her and speculate. Like I said it would be damaging for her to not have the support needed at such a young age and someone in her position.

Okay I’ll hold my hands up to that one, maybe I shouldn’t assume she’s not an addict. I just think that a lot of people on here make out she is and has an “addicts” problem, so I felt like saying my POV on it.

I wasn’t trying to normalise it, it’s very relevant to my current circumstances as my boyfriend uses c and other stuff and is going through the process of getting help for it, I do not use them at all and never have, so I understand what it is like from a non users POV and having someone I love use them too. I absolutely hate them and wouldn’t try to make them normal after the affects it’s had on us however i think people shouldn’t be so quick to judge and call her a head & names regarding it when they may not realise how hard it actually is.
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Addiction and substance abuse are big problems, and I'm sorry to hear that your boyfriend is struggling.
However, I think there is a difference between being an addict and doing drugs because it's fun / it's socially acceptable to do them.

I'm willing to say I definitely experience more prejudice towards Olivia and the likes of her as she is from a wealthy family and has every opportunity to do anything she likes with her life. I'll admit that maybe makes me come down harder on her, as it's not like she's from a cycle of poverty or drug abuse (and she voluntarily hangs around drug users, rather than being surrounded by them through situation). Maybe it's unfair to have expectations or hopes for people who have certain privileges, but given that she's not an addict (as far as we can speculate) and she has the capacity to totally avoid drugs, I would have hoped that she would choose to.

However, I can accept that that may be a moral failing on my part and I shouldn't judge her more for being a drug user by active choice - providing of course, she is actually one. I don't denigrate addicts and people trying to get help, I just think the more people pile onto the idea that taking drugs make you cool / young and free / fashionable, the bigger the drug epidemic will continue to get. It's more about the "influencer" and "teenager" aspects than the "addict" aspect in this situation for me personally. And that's not even mentioning mental / psychological effects that drugs can have, particularly on a teenager's mind.

Anyway, sorry tangent over. I don't want anyone thinking I have prejudice against addicts, but I also think it's important for people to openly oppose drug use if that's what they believe (as from personal experience I saw none of that). x
 
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whatstheteab

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When is Strictly due to start? If he hasn’t started training and the first show is in a few weeks then surely he’ll have to drop out since he’ll have to isolate for two weeks?
 
coriander

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Lara98 said:
Regardless of if it’s grim or not it’s not really anyone’s place to judge why or how someone gets themselves in to that situation. Whether it be peer pressure from social groups, “just for fun” or it be their addiction and way of life. If you’ve never been in that situation before than it’s most definitely not your place to judge, it can be very hard for some people - I hope if you go through something like that or love someone who does you offer support rather than judging them as that’s the last thing they need.

I don’t think Olivia is an addict, it seems more like recreational use and just when she is out however if there’s no solid evidence or proof of her doing this, then maybe people should hold back on judging and throwing accusations around? I’m not saying she doesn’t do it but it can be very damaging for someone - esp an 18/19 yr old to have these things thrown around about them.
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I never said I'm judgemental of the circumstances that people are in, I'm saying that I think taking drugs is grim.
 
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Why people are more concerned over her doing coke than the fact 2 people her and flossie have been around have now got covid, I wouldn’t be shocked if they have it tbh - hopefully they will isolate and follow the rules if so

peachpuppy said:
What would you like to talk about instead?
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whatstheteab

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Was looking through Olivia’s tagged posts on insta and it’s so cringe how like 80% of them are Harvey stan accounts. If Olivia does end up ditching him for John they’ll probably attack her for using him 🥴
Lara98 said:
Why people are more concerned over her doing coke than the fact 2 people her and flossie have been around have now got covid, I wouldn’t be shocked if they have it tbh - hopefully they will isolate and follow the rules if so
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Surely they’ll have been tested by now or will be soon? Based off Olivia’s tik toks it looks like they’ve both been in the flat for the last few days anyway.
 
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peachpuppy

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A1400 said:
Well she does kinda have a point the thread is about Olivia lol
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We're talking about Olivia though, and the rumours about her drug use.
Sorry I might be being dense, but I didn't consider talking about drugs to be derailing the thread honestly.
 
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IrishGal2020

I just think if the discussion is about drugs it should be about Olivia taking them, otnerwise it should be a general drug thread
 
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triangles

I think she's funny to watch (more-so when she is by herself) but I find her so triggering :( I know that's my personal issue and hopefully I overcome it. But I hope she is okay too.
 
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