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I mean I don't think it's attractive at all personally, but she seems really hurt over John. Maybe she needed a quick rebound, or needed to be seen having a quick rebound
This is why I thought him and Olivia were a jokethere’s no way she went from classic Irish lad to this cringe boy who clearly fancies himself
Ohh ffssss!! 100%
I hope they all get tested, especially since they have been with quisha (who also tested positive) & because they are out ALL the time
NO WAY omg
Lurker and first time poster here - I just wanted to say as someone who is a few years older than Olivia and who’s also come back from a bad place with coke (and I have so much admiration for the other poster who faced the same battle), I really hate the immediate judgment and saying it’s “grim”. It can be such a peer pressure-related situation and, ultimately, calling a habit grim isn’t all that helpful. drinking too much could be deemed “grim”, eating unhealthy foods could be deemed “grim”, obsessively checking your social media could be deemed “grim”. the fact is that a lot of unhealthy behaviours have become more normal and, because of that, i think it’s important to recognise the reasons and pressures behind those behaviours, especially when the person in question isn’t actively talking about them, but might just be privately engaging in and/or struggling with those behaviours.
Well it is grim regardless of how someone got into it. I take your point but you can't stop people from judging.
It IS grim though. For example smoking is grim even if you get peer pressured into it, because it's terrible for your health and can kill you (speaking as someone who used illegal substances and smoked). She has the capacity to not hang out with people using c, or even just say no - remember that old slogan? The consequences of getting addicted to c and all of the physiological side effects are horrendous and if I'm genuinely really honest - judgement works. If I had people in my life saying "Don't do what the rest of your friends are doing, that's bleeping disgusting" as opposed to "You're young so it's okay" I would have had the support necessary to realise I had the option to say no.
We shouldn't shame people who become addicted and it should be treated as a health issue rather than a crime issue, but if there's the possible capacity to stop people before they get addicted then I'm going to do that. Taking drugs that can kill you or ruin your life IS grim - if you get peer pressured then I have sympathy for you, but cancer or brain damage isn't going to leave you alone because you didn't take them voluntarily. Maybe she will read and get reassured that it's okay not to be taking stuff.
There are ways to excuse any "grim" behaviour, but that doesn't make it less grim.
i take it if she still wants to be a pilot she will be doing it privately vs via the RAF as they have very strict drug policies
I'm not sure if she still wants to be a pilot. She said she did, and I think would do the very expensive training after the pandemic but I reckon she won't pursue it. The influencer life in London is glitzy and fast paced, and probably more enticing than hardcore training and debt.
I don't think she would go to the RAF anyway I don't think she's that way inclined
Regardless of if it’s grim or not it’s not really anyone’s place to judge why or how someone gets themselves in to that situation. Whether it be peer pressure from social groups, “just for fun” or it be their addiction and way of life. If you’ve never been in that situation before than it’s most definitely not your place to judge, it can be very hard for some people - I hope if you go through something like that or love someone who does you offer support rather than judging them as that’s the last thing they need.
I don’t think Olivia is an addict, it seems more like recreational use and just when she is out however if there’s no solid evidence or proof of her doing this, then maybe people should hold back on judging and throwing accusations around? I’m not saying she doesn’t do it but it can be very damaging for someone - esp an 18/19 yr old to have these things thrown around about them.
I don’t think Olivia is an addict, it seems more like recreational use and just when she is out however if there’s no solid evidence or proof of her doing this, then maybe people should hold back on judging and throwing accusations around? I’m not saying she doesn’t do it but it can be very damaging for someone - esp an 18/19 yr old to have these things thrown around about them.
I dont think anyone is trying to shame anyone who has a genuine problem but you have to admit that drugs as a whole are grim and what they bring to people are also grim. Of course its awful that people get so wrapped up in it and struggle so much with it, but i think that the OP means that drugs are grim, not those who are struggling with them.
We're not necessarily in the capacity to offer to support to Olivia though - if we were, I would definitely try to offer her some advice and help her out. That may sound a little weird coming from someone on this site, but I do think she's got the capacity to be a really bright spark - she's just bogged down with the expectations that come from social media.
I feel like also if we're not allowed to judge on if taking c is "grim" or not, maybe you shouldn't be able to determine if she's an addict or not? A lot of this site is speculation, but unless people start going to her page and accusing her of things then speculation is alright. We are polite enough on here to have a designated space for conversation where the influencers don't HAVE to read our commentary if they don't want to.
Ultimately, I think taking c IS grim. If someone is an addict or feel pressured I feel bad for them, but their reasons don't affect the severity of the risk or the damage on their body. Anybody who needs help should be able to access help and shouldn't be judged for their addiction (obviously), but let's not normalise taking c "just for fun". There's a reason it's a Class A drug.
I know that’s why I said yourself or someone you love however I agree she has a lot of potential but if she was going through it I would hope people would try and help her, rather than sit her and speculate. Like I said it would be damaging for her to not have the support needed at such a young age and someone in her position.
Okay I’ll hold my hands up to that one, maybe I shouldn’t assume she’s not an addict. I just think that a lot of people on here make out she is and has an “addicts” problem, so I felt like saying my POV on it.
I wasn’t trying to normalise it, it’s very relevant to my current circumstances as my boyfriend uses c and other stuff and is going through the process of getting help for it, I do not use them at all and never have, so I understand what it is like from a non users POV and having someone I love use them too. I absolutely hate them and wouldn’t try to make them normal after the affects it’s had on us however i think people shouldn’t be so quick to judge and call her a head & names regarding it when they may not realise how hard it actually is.
Okay I’ll hold my hands up to that one, maybe I shouldn’t assume she’s not an addict. I just think that a lot of people on here make out she is and has an “addicts” problem, so I felt like saying my POV on it.
I wasn’t trying to normalise it, it’s very relevant to my current circumstances as my boyfriend uses c and other stuff and is going through the process of getting help for it, I do not use them at all and never have, so I understand what it is like from a non users POV and having someone I love use them too. I absolutely hate them and wouldn’t try to make them normal after the affects it’s had on us however i think people shouldn’t be so quick to judge and call her a head & names regarding it when they may not realise how hard it actually is.
I guess thats the route for those from less fortunate backgrounds who would never be able to afford to fund themselves through pilot training but she is from a wealthy background so could fund herself or parents could support herI don't think she would go to the RAF anyway I don't think she's that way inclined
I think the concept of doing drugs for fun, being one of those who think they’re better than everyone else, make jokes about it etc. Those who Almost see doing ket, Coke, pills etc as a personality trait. Don’t actually see drugs as something that ruin lives. Those who brag about drug use. That is grim and trashy. But people who are addicted and have no control - that is not what I see as grim and I feel a lot of sympathy for them.
Well I think up until her YouTube career kicked off she probably wouldn't have been able to afford it... I think she can well afford it now from her YouTube incoming but I don't think her parents would have dropped her 100k for it
Completely agree, its always those people who look down on struggling addicts too
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