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Mayday

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I have a couple of family members who moved to Australia and they seem to love it. They have kids and it seems like a much better lifestyle for them than what they had here, and they seem better off financially (although I know its not always the case).
 
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I moved from Finland to UK 12 years ago. I feel like I don't belong to either country fully. Especially now with Brexit.
My partner is British, it's easier to live here. Though we would love to live in Finland. But the language is not easy to learn and it creates an issue to him with finding a job.
I so feel this. I’ve been in the UK 15 years and am still a stranger in many ways. And now I also don’t fully belong in Africa either 😢
 
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Herefortheteeeee

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Interesting! I am also a solicitor but feel pretty stuck to the jurisdiction I’m qualified in. I can’t even get a new role in a different area cause everyone wants bloody experience. I hate private practice, trying to move in house but sometimes wonder maybe law just isn’t for me as I always feel I’m no where near as clever as other lawyers. Feel a bit like a fraud. And have an awful boss who has completely destroyed my confidence this last year but I’ve stuck it out cause I need to pay the bills. Meanwhile applying for every job going with no success.
I have massive imposter syndrome in my job. I work in house (always have) and the company I work for are literally amazing. I feel like I don’t deserve my job. I got pregnant within 3 months of working there, they were so unbelievably supportive. Literally above & beyond supportive. Since I have been back from maternity, I have been in and out of hospital with stomach issues, again, ridiculously supportive. Compared with when I worked for a competitor 5 years ago, I was miserable. I became ill because my management and senior management were discriminatory and power hungry. I actually left working in law and took a year working for family. I pressed the reset button. I’m still left with a confidence knock but slowly getting back to where I need to be. i love working in law, I really do. But I do feel like you are stuck to your jurisdiction unless you have an amazing opportunity arise. A girl I have worked with before moved to Oz and didn’t have to re-train as she moved within her company. I also know people who move to Dubai and don’t retrain. I was offered HK when I handed my notice in to the above company who made me miserable. I would have loved to move but I couldn’t keep working for them.
something will come up, I am sure of it. You have to be patience. If you want to move abroad, I defo would recommend working in-house for an international company. X
 
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mindlessness

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I've moved the other way (UK to Aus) and back again, with plans to return to the UK next year. Honestly, I love Australia but the UK feels more like home now (despite my family mostly being here in Australia!) ( I am also a single woman, so diff life circumstances!)

I think any international move relies on you being prepared for there being hard times, and for feeling like a fish out of water, even without a language barrier. The culture can be quite different! Also depending on which state/city you move to.

A few other questions you guys might find useful to work through: What sort of life do you want your kids to have growing up? What could you do to make that possible closer to home and grandparents? What could you do to make the distance feel less if you do move to Australia? Can the grandparents afford to travel to visit? Would you be planning on annual visits back to visit family? Are you sure Australia will offer the lifestyle you want?

Best of luck whatever you decide!
 
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bubbadabut

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Not really. Thank you for sharing your experience. That sounds like it sucked big time.

We are going to suck it and see. If we don’t go, we’ll never know.
Better to do it than never do it and regret it forever. Also will be a lot easier to make the move with the kids being young. Have you thought about the kind of area you would want to be in? Although we were in a city in NZ, it was no bigger than a small town in the UK really, and hundreds of miles away from any other 'city'. We did spend some time in Wellington and Auckland too, but they were equally sleepy and underwhelming (to me at least - apologies to any Kiwis!). Australian cities seem to be more diverse and exciting.
 
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Ohflogoff

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Hi tattlers.
I’m wondering if anyone here has either moved county or country?

We are a young family and both have careers we love. For a while we’ve felt as though the area we live in is not where we want our kids to grow up.

we looked at areas close enough to commute (1.5hrs in the car away), but as we rely on grandaprents for childcare, we would mean we would be much worse off financially.

The other option is Australia. One part of me would love to take the plunge. The other part feels homesick already.

anyone else done it?
 
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Herefortheteeeee

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I was going to do the New York bar but secured a one year internship in a legal role, doing leg work for an attorney, after I qualified in the UK. It was a tremendous year of being paid peanuts. Thankfully my mom and dad lived in NY so I had somewhere (free) to live. After that year, I travelled for a few months before moving back to England to work for an in-house solicitor for an insurance company. It seemed so dull after NY but I stayed for over 10 years as it was such a cushy role and I had my children during that time.
Now I'm in sunny Australia. I did my juris doctor here and I now work for legal aid. It is all good, but it is not NY. I always, always look back fondly at my time in america and wonder 'what if'. I just wish i had the money back then to do the NY bar, became a high flying attorney and I could have been retired by now in fiji!

Huge digression here, but if you can, go for it! Best wishes.
Thanks for sharing!!! So living in NY is everything I imagine it to be then! X
 
I've moved from South Africa to the UK and I would consider moving again (somewhere warm!) but my OH is British and don't want to move. But I am adventurous like that.

I would say go for it if you are both in agreement and if you think you both would be happy to move back if it doesn't work out. Something like this can put a huge strain on a marriage or partnership, especially if one hates it and wants to come back
 

Causewaygal

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I moved to Ireland two years ago from Derbyshire and I love it most of the time. I moved around a lot in England and never felt settled. I’ve also lived in Australia and while it was fun for a while I grew to hate the bugs and always being afraid of something biting or stinging me 😆 I’m very outdoorsy and also love water sports and the fears left me feeling restricted.
Over here I can do all the things I love but as odd as it sounds I really miss Waitrose and my virgin active gym 😐 I’ve also just discovered the hard way this afternoon that hunting with dogs is still legal here and I’ve had a few hours of thinking should I go back to England.
Sorry I went off on a tangent there. Ultimately I’d suggest need to weigh up all the pros and cons as a family good luck
 

Mulholland Drive

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I am South African by birth, but have dual nationality with the Uk, and moved here with my parents when I was in my early teens.

It did take time for me to settle in with the English way of doing things, especially during my formative school years and my funny "Suth Effrikaaan" accent as some called it in their funny little ways.

I do hop between both countries, so being homesick is never a problem. Obviously with this pandemic I have been in the UK for the last year or two. And like most things both countries have their plus points and of course their negatives. And if someone asked me to make a final choice between the two, I really wouldn't know how to answer. Perhaps come back to me in another 30 years when I'm in my 50s and I'll have a better idea. But for the moment I am happy with my lot.
 

Helicopter68

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Oh wow, I haven’t met a lot of people who moved from Uk to Russia!
Glad to hear you like it there 😊 And I believe there are ways to find good cheese, or at least there used to be before Covid 😂 My friends used to use various companies that would buy food in Finland and then deliver it.
Whereabouts are you in Russia, if I may ask?
Yes there is the imported cheese from Switzerland and the Baltics but nothing compares to a UK cheddar! I've just spent the past 5 years in Moscow and now in SPB. Where are you from originally?
 
Yeah I feel like a lot of people are happier in house I definitely want to try and move in house. But where I live not many big companies have offices, even the bigger law firms. We only really have oil and gas and it’s so hard to get in house in oil and gas with no experience 😫

I have massive imposter syndrome in my job. I work in house (always have) and the company I work for are literally amazing. I feel like I don’t deserve my job. I got pregnant within 3 months of working there, they were so unbelievably supportive. Literally above & beyond supportive. Since I have been back from maternity, I have been in and out of hospital with stomach issues, again, ridiculously supportive. Compared with when I worked for a competitor 5 years ago, I was miserable. I became ill because my management and senior management were discriminatory and power hungry. I actually left working in law and took a year working for family. I pressed the reset button. I’m still left with a confidence knock but slowly getting back to where I need to be. i love working in law, I really do. But I do feel like you are stuck to your jurisdiction unless you have an amazing opportunity arise. A girl I have worked with before moved to Oz and didn’t have to re-train as she moved within her company. I also know people who move to Dubai and don’t retrain. I was offered HK when I handed my notice in to the above company who made me miserable. I would have loved to move but I couldn’t keep working for them.
something will come up, I am sure of it. You have to be patience. If you want to move abroad, I defo would recommend working in-house for an international company. X
 

Ohflogoff

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I've moved the other way (UK to Aus) and back again, with plans to return to the UK next year. Honestly, I love Australia but the UK feels more like home now (despite my family mostly being here in Australia!) ( I am also a single woman, so diff life circumstances!)

I think any international move relies on you being prepared for there being hard times, and for feeling like a fish out of water, even without a language barrier. The culture can be quite different! Also depending on which state/city you move to.

A few other questions you guys might find useful to work through: What sort of life do you want your kids to have growing up? What could you do to make that possible closer to home and grandparents? What could you do to make the distance feel less if you do move to Australia? Can the grandparents afford to travel to visit? Would you be planning on annual visits back to visit family? Are you sure Australia will offer the lifestyle you want?

Best of luck whatever you decide!
Thank you! These are things we have thought about for years. We want a more outdoorsy lifestyle. We are an active family and believe that the outdoor recreational opportunities are much better in Oz. There’s FaceTime and there’s annual flights while their health permits. (Oh and effing covid effs off).

I am 100% sure Oz will offer what we want. We’ve both lived there and fell in love with it. I’ve been back five times since living out there initially in my early twenties.

It’s all in full swing. Skills assessment and English test coming up ✅
 

Mrs McCarthy

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That's the opposite of me! I'm from the UK but moved to Russia 6 years ago. You're right. Everything is a hell of a lot cheaper here but there are just some things you can't get like good cheese and cordial. I've never looked back though and see Russia as my new home x
Oh wow, I haven’t met a lot of people who moved from Uk to Russia!
Glad to hear you like it there 😊 And I believe there are ways to find good cheese, or at least there used to be before Covid 😂 My friends used to use various companies that would buy food in Finland and then deliver it.
Whereabouts are you in Russia, if I may ask?
 

Ohflogoff

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Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Oz is appealing as we’ve both lived there Pre kids and loved it. Aside from family, there’s nothing that I wouldn’t miss from here. Jobs pay well, but am aware the cost of living is higher. Childcare wouldn’t be through the roof as it’s wage dependant. It’s literally the distance from family and if something tragic happened I wouldn’t be able to get there in five minutes, and visa versa.

To move further away, would mean leaving our jobs and wages/jobs would be difficult to come by. Although I WFH I also do a lot of face to face so wouldn’t be able to keep my job.

argh.
 

littlemisspiggy

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Having never lived outside my home town, I initally moved Counties 2 years ago.
Then earlier this year, my OH and I packed up, sold most of our possessions and shipped what we had left and moved to a country - where English is not the first language.

Honestly the stepping stone moving out of the hometown then sort of liberated me to move anywhere - moving 40 miles or 4000 miles the personal and mental process really is still the same, the rest is just logistics!
And people who know where we are say that we are so lucky.
And we are lucky. We have many, many more opportunities here than we would have in the UK.

My only regret.......I wish I had done this when I was younger!
 

orangelolly

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I moved 250 miles from a large city to a very small town. Best move we (my husband and I) ever made.
 

Helicopter68

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I have moved from Russia to UK, and I used to live in a big city and I know live in a small town.
I miss my friends, obviously, and I miss the big city living. Also because things are a lot cheaper in Russia I could afford more, like eating out and beauty treatments.
Me and my husband are thinking about moving from UK somewhere else. I would love to move again to somewhere like Canada, or any other country where people don’t hate foreigners 😂 Husband loves his home town though, so I doubt we will ever move.
That's the opposite of me! I'm from the UK but moved to Russia 6 years ago. You're right. Everything is a hell of a lot cheaper here but there are just some things you can't get like good cheese and cordial. I've never looked back though and see Russia as my new home x
 

Am49704

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We moved to Spain around a year ago and love it here, the wages are a lot lower than the UK but we live here for the life not the momey.