Michael Jackson

[Miss Havisham]

On watching the recent BBC documentary (and then reading various articles, that I did not pay attention to back in the day). I now believe that he was grooming and abusing children, I think it was likely that he was also falsely accused by some - but not by all of his accusers, I think it’s also very likely, that some victims haven’t and won’t speak out.

The recent bbc documentary is very informative, it’s not sensationalist- but presents the timeline in a way that was not clear to me, previously.
He comes across as a very manipulative, calculating man.

 

[Boogs]

I absolutely believe that Michael Jackson was a victim of abuse as a child and I feel huge compassion for little Michael. I also think that adult Michael was a predatory serial abuser who groomed and abused lots of kids. He can be both a victim and a perpetrator. If this was Joe Bloggs from the local pub nobody would be suggesting his bad childhood made him childlike so it was ok to sleep naked with young boys.

 

[shellie]

Sorry but his behaviour is literally textbook grooming behaviour of the entire families of the victims. If it was a random man and not a beloved popular you are a fan of you'd believe it very easily. Look at the tit thats come out about other pedophile celebrities! But just because Micheal had a bad childhood he must be innocent

Add to that, quite a few people who worked for him said they saw stuff and when he was raided, there were books full of pictures of naked children taken which if you saw the pictures were far from the 'art' people claim it was which was completely normal...right?

 

[KINGAA]

I absolutely believe that Michael Jackson was a victim of abuse as a child and I feel huge compassion for little Michael. I also think that adult Michael was a predatory serial abuser who groomed and abused lots of kids. He can be both a victim and a perpetrator. If this was Joe Bloggs from the local pub nobody would be suggesting his bad childhood made him childlike so it was ok to sleep naked with young boys.

I think the abuse he had a lack of childhood effected his mental capacity and he saw children like him, like I think he thought like a child, completely stunted except he was a grown man and even his brothers said had a very healthy appetite, sexually - he was infatuated with children and was surrounded by yes men who helped him do this and get away with this for money. Most of his songs weren’t even written by him, he was given credits he was a money making machine for the music industry and I think there are many many people who are also to blame. Like Epstein this is way way bigger than just him. I know it is.

 

[Piff paff puff]

even his brothers said had a very healthy appetite, sexually

To me he seemed like the most asexual man on the planet. I know he had supposed relationships but nothing of any substance. They looked like publicity stunts for both parties. The marriage to Lisa Marie was weird. His obsession with looking like Liz Taylor and Liza minelli was in line with feeling more feminine than masculine. I think if anything he was a gay man in the closet. Am I right in that no girl children were invited into his bed? Not a question just to you but a general question.

 

[AllSeeingEye123]

She keeps distancing herself from her father. She didn't support his movie with the rest of the family and now a weird mother's day post that feels there is a lot more to it than celebrating her mother.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

I took it as a tongue in cheek comment

 

[Pretty Hate Machine]

To me he seemed like the most asexual man on the planet. I know he had supposed relationships but nothing of any substance. They looked like publicity stunts for both parties. The marriage to Lisa Marie was weird. His obsession with looking like Liz Taylor and Liza minelli was in line with feeling more feminine than masculine. I think if anything he was a gay man in the closet. Am I right in that no girl children were invited into his bed? Not a question just to you but a general question.

I always thought the same about no girl children, but I read an article the other day that talked about a payoff to a female child. It was accompanied by a 90 something page court document which talked quite graphically about the abuse (I would highly recommend not reading or scanning it) I'll have a quick look later and see if I can find where I saw it.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

I always thought the same about no girl children, but I read an article the other day that talked about a payoff to a female child. It was accompanied by a 90 something page court document which talked quite graphically about the abuse (I would highly recommend not reading or scanning it) I'll have a quick look later and see if I can find where I saw it.

I'd take the Casio statement with a huge pinch of salt.

 

[Pretty Hate Machine]

It was this here.

 

[Dexy]

I'd take the Casio statement with a huge pinch of salt.

Exactly. I’ve only seen a quick clip on Twitter but it’s ridiculous. Used the same footage to say he’s guilty ( a pillow fight ) as they used to show his innocence in 2005. The fake shocked faces and “ why is he playing with us? “ they should put their payout to acting classes.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Exactly. I’ve only seen a quick clip on Twitter but it’s ridiculous. Used the same footage to say he’s guilty ( a pillow fight ) as they used to show his innocence in 2005. The fake shocked faces and “ why is he playing with us? “ they should put their payout to acting classes.

And made a load of fake MJ songs Absolute idiots

 

[Dexy]

Someone who actually knew WR and the Casios.

https://medium.com/@d.karaty/michaeljacksonbetrayed-c9a9b773151b

 

[Dotty Merton]

She keeps distancing herself from her father. She didn't support his movie with the rest of the family and now a weird mother's day post that feels there is a lot more to it than celebrating her mother.

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Hang on, does she really mean cloning? As opposed to ivf or surrogacy etc. And why does she say they. Not he. Who are this nefarious cloning crowd?

 

[Web30]

Someone who actually knew WR and the Casios.

https://medium.com/@d.karaty/michaeljacksonbetrayed-c9a9b773151b

So the girl involved had asked Michael to include her the same way he did her brothers when it came to hanging out, seems like she wants in on the story now. Also watching the interview her "abuse" happened at a time he was staying with the family and his own children were there. I dont believe any of them but her especially.

 

[Web30]

On watching the recent BBC documentary (and then reading various articles, that I did not pay attention to back in the day). I now believe that he was grooming and abusing children, I think it was likely that he was also falsely accused by some - but not by all of his accusers, I think it’s also very likely, that some victims haven’t and won’t speak out.

The recent bbc documentary is very informative, it’s not sensationalist- but presents the timeline in a way that was not clear to me, previously.
He comes across as a very manipulative, calculating man.

The time line of a few things were off, he released History while still married to Lisa marie, yet this made appear they were already divorced.
Thats the one that stood out to me.

 

[Web30]

Also, why would leaving neverland trigger them and make them realise this had happened to others, yet the court case wouldn't. She said they were with him in Bahrain which is where he went after the court case.

 

[AladdinSane]

Hang on, does she really mean cloning? As opposed to ivf or surrogacy etc. And why does she say they. Not he. Who are this nefarious cloning crowd?

I literally took this as a tongue in cheek comment as a lot of people say she looks like her mum

 

[Dexy]

Hang on, does she really mean cloning? As opposed to ivf or surrogacy etc. And why does she say they. Not he. Who are this nefarious cloning crowd?

I didn’t see it but pretty sure it was a joke. She has a very dry SOH and is quite sarky at times. It’s probably a dig at those who say she’s the spit of Debbie.

 

[Dexy]

Also, why would leaving neverland trigger them and make them realise this had happened to others, yet the court case wouldn't. She said they were with him in Bahrain which is where he went after the court case.

Because the billion dollar movie wasn’t out then!