Marvel

[Guitarwarrior]

Unfortunately marvel has become a victim of its own success. The original origin movies (iron man 1/2. Thor and Captain America) make fantastic stand alone films. You don’t need to have seen 10 other movies and 5 tv series to be able to enjoy them. These days if you haven’t seen one of the films you’re lost because of the plot references. It’s worse now you’ve got Disney plus exclusives.
They’ve lost the magic they used to have sadly.

 

[watermelon sugar]

The winter soldier is my all time fav Marvel movie

 

[roarke]

I love marvel and people at work look at me like I’m the weirdo.
I honestly think it lost its magic when End Game finished. I saw Dr Strange but I’ve not really bothered with the others. Thor looks pretty funny.
Did you watch the series? I thought they were terrible.

 

[StephenTJackson]

Seeing on social, they're in Phase 4 and Phases 5&6 have already been announced. It's just too much. Fatigue is gonna be setting in hard in the near future.

 

[watermelon sugar]

Yeah, I used to get really excited at the announcements now I just weren’t that bothered. I loved Chris Evans’ captain America and I weren’t that bothered about the new world order announcement

 

[Mark81]

They got away with it when it was all the well known marvel characters and the avalanche of content, because you didn't need to be a comic book fan to still know of them.

But now they are on to the less well known IP, unless you're a Marvel comics fan, which not every MCU fan will be. You've got to really want to commit now, to learn new characters and commit to films for characters you don't know.

And it's very clear the content is struggling to connect with audiences.

Since Endgame, there hasn't been anything like the same buzz around a MCU film except for Spiderman, which let's be honest had the buzz because it was Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland together, which was great.

I agree, and even spiderman I found to be the weakest of the mcu spiderman films. Once you get passed the excitement of the three actors teaming up, I don't find much rewatchability in it compared to the first two

 

[#notanadad]

Apologies if there is already a dedicated Marvel thread! But I always want to talk about Marvel and no one in real life wants to listen so if there's anyone else who feels the same please join in

 

[StephenTJackson]

Marvel are putting out too much content and it's all been watered down and is now just a big circle jerk for 'fans'.
Dr Strange 2 wasn't particularly good, and the multiverse
Black Panther 2 was a dragged out snore fest.

They got away with it when it was all the well known marvel characters and the avalanche of content, because you didn't need to be a comic book fan to still know of them.

But now they are on to the less well known characters, unless you're a Marvel comics fan, which not every MCU fan will be. You've got to really want to commit now, to learn new characters and commit to films for characters you don't know.

And it's very clear the content is struggling to connect with audiences.

Since Endgame, there hasn't been anything like the same buzz around a MCU film except for Spiderman, which let's be honest had the buzz because it was Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland together, which was great.

 

[Mark81]

So actually about 23 minutes then if it’s anything like the marvel tv shows

so true

 

[#notanadad]

You are my people

I agree, Endgame was literally the end of an era. I kind of wish they stopped after that because it's just not the same any more. I did love no way home, LOVED wandavision I was SO invested in that it was amazing. I didn't mind Falcon and the Winter Soldier because it was like the old school type Marvel stuff. I really want to see Thor but apart from that, I could easily leave everything else. I HATE the multiverse stuff and I don't understand the TVA (although I'm glad Loki is still kicking around) I think it's all getting too confusing, they should have left the time travel stuff with the time heist.

 

[and nothing happens]

I used to really like Marvel but I feel now you need to be really invested across multiple platforms to watch them! I don’t feel you could just go to the cinema to see a new Marvel release without having seen two seperate series and various other films about different characters.

 

[Mark81]

I think its already started. Anecdotal, but all the marvel fans I know have been underwhelmed with nearly everything since endgame and was chatting to a friend earlier who said same as me, that none of the comic con announcements were particularly interesting

 

[Mark81]

I think the risk they are running is marvel burn out and a cheapening of the brand. Marvel movies used to be an event, now you have one (or a TV series) practically every month.

 

[1x2x3x4x]

YES! Finally a marvel thread!

I agree with many of the comments above in that Endgame was just so mega that of course phase 4 is an inevitable lull. I do think they’re making a mistake in having so many series on Disney+ too - it makes you feel as if you’re constantly having to watch a new marvel series to be in the loop and it’s overwhelming. BUT I will always love marvel and I regularly go to the cinema alone to watch the films

Having said the slightly negative stuff above, I’ve read a lot about what they’re probably building up to (secret wars) and if true, it’s going to top Endgame because absolutely everyone who’s ever been in a marvel film will be able to be in it. With all the multiverse stuff that just has to be the direction they’re going in and I think it’ll be mega.

 

[Mark81]

Guardians of the galaxy Christmas special now on Disney plus

 

[Mark81]

I like marvel, but not massively into it which makes the need to watch all the interlinked movies and TV series a pain.

Like the captain America, ant man, and spiderman movies. Love the first and third thor films, second wasn't great but am looking forward to love and thunder. Enjoy guardians of the galaxy too. Also really loved Shang Chi, so fresh from everything else, and good to have the female lead who wasn't just the love interest. The final battle scene was a bit meh, but the characters and overall film I really enjoyed

Really didn't enjoy Dr strange 2 and was even more shocked at how poor some of the cgi was in it.

Controversially I don't really rate the avengers movies, I think the individual hero focused movies are usually better. All the disney plus TV shows I've seen have been disappointing tbh so I stopped watching now. Last one I tried was Moonknight, which I loved at the start but even that got boring. I find the multiverse stuff off putting as it's either overly complicated, ridiculous or just comes across as a bit up its own arse.

 

[Sir Lancelot]

Marvel are putting out too much content and it's all been watered down and is now just a big circle jerk for 'fans'.
Dr Strange 2 wasn't particularly good, and the multiverse
Black Panther 2 was a dragged out snore fest.

 

[Mark81]

Yeah, I used to get really excited at the announcements now I just weren’t that bothered. I loved Chris Evans’ captain America and I weren’t that bothered about the new world order announcement

Agree, Chris Evans is captain America as far as I'm concerned. In fact they got the casting so right for the original avengers its almost an impossible task to match them. It's not helped that I just don't think Anthony mackie has the talent or on screen charisma/presence to be such a major character, and that was even before he was made captain. Must be better black actors out there who could play the role, Anthony doesn't compare to say chadwick bosman who was so brilliant as black panther.

 

[lozza96]

Black pantha trailer was emotional

 

[roarke]

The winter soldier is my all time fav Marvel movie

Same. It’s got a great storyline, it’s bloody funny and it’s beautifully shot.