Madeleine McCann #8

[Justhereforthedrama]

Just saw this on Facebook.

 

[NowIsGood]

I’m not usually on this thread but I came to see if anyone had posted about the Mail’s seemingly daily articles about Sean. I know there will be public interest because of who he is but it seems odd to be reporting on him every day. I am suspicious it’s being pushed by the McCann PR team and wondered if anyone else felt the same or whether I’m just a cynical old boot?

That's why I came here! Just seen an article about him in the NY times! It's all very much pushing how brilliant the parents are for encouraging his talent ect. Trying to make their kid famous is creepy af.

 

[Tangerine Dream]

Time for the bi-annual plod jolly holiday, I mean invesitgative exploration out to lovely Portugal. I got hopeful when the funding for OG was said to be cut but it's not by very much, they are still getting an obscence 80k+

After doing everything they possibly could to link the case to that vile CB and coming away with a botched mess and him going free anyway, and what with it being almost 20 years (!!!) since Madeleine's disappearance I really do think they need to put these resources elsewhere.

Not least because I'm quite certain that if the poor girl had vanished in somewhere like Sibera (no disrespect to Sibera peeps) they would not be in such a hurry to rush over twice a year...

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

I think they were very ashamed of their negligent parenting, knew it looked bad and tried to cover it up.

And thought they would go unchallenged because they were professionals, and they had clout - and they werenarrogant.

And to a degree they were right. .

 

[Lynn’ssnazzycardigan]

I’m not usually on this thread but I came to see if anyone had posted about the Mail’s seemingly daily articles about Sean. I know there will be public interest because of who he is but it seems odd to be reporting on him every day. I am suspicious it’s being pushed by the McCann PR team and wondered if anyone else felt the same or whether I’m just a cynical old boot?

 

[Emsie]

It’s a ridiculous service. They were out with a large group, so would they even have heard a kid over all the noise?

Honestly it's ridiculous how they are like: "but the hotel only had a listening service and we thought our idea was better" both options are terrible!! And we're not the only options. It wasn't a condition of your stay that you HAD to eat in the tapas bar down the road without your kids.

 

[Phil Anne Throw Pee]

Digital Spy banned all discussion about the case for years because people couldn't cope with anyone being suspicious of or not liking the McCanns, it was ridiculous

I think Digital Spy must be run by a man with a nappy fetish who identifies as a foetus because nobody could question anything about trans people on there, there was one thread where everyone was saying there was nothing wrong with men wearing nappies in the workplace (seriously) and you'd get an immediate ban if you said anything that might be deemed gender critical. They were just as militant about the McCanns, an absolute bloody farce of a forum.

 

[Scubasf]

Unlikely things do happen though - statistically 90% of children come to harm by family or someone known to the family, so that leaves 10% who are harmed by someone not known to them.

One in five children experience csa, this suggests that sadly pweidos are not difficult to find.
There is a reasonable chance that any man (as pweidos are overwhelmingly male), who is presented with an opportunity that presents a low risk to himself, would take the opportunity to abuse a child.

So the scenario of MM leaving the apartment and bumping into a man who abducts her is statistically not that unlikely.

Absolutely. At the end of the day, whatever happened to her, she was, statistically, extremely unlucky. However, the inconsistencies and lies from her parents and their unwillingness to assist the investigation and sue anyone who goes against what they say happened, their complete dismissal of the Smith sighting (which you’d think they’d agree with as it would actually support their abduction theory), combined with the statistic likelihood of coming to harm because of parents probably ups that quite a bit.

 

[Tangerine Dream]

I agree with this, in the early days they really tried to normalise it and occasionally now it pops up and is quickly glossed over.

Digital Spy banned all discussion about the case for years because people couldn't cope with anyone being suspicious of or not liking the McCanns, it was ridiculous

 

[Naffdoff]

What makes me shake with anger is the sheer lies they told to try & cover themselves. This completely hindered any enquiry. They were clearly more interested in covering their backs than finding out what happened to madeline. They were more negligent than this couple in Spain as they left the children in an unlocked apartment next to a busy road & pool.

 

[griftalo]

Did they ever give a reason for blood being found in the boot of the car?

I think like the vile reported smell from the car boot that had to be left open for days, it was attributed to rubbish they took to the tip.

I always hire a car on holiday and transport smelly bags of rotting food, don’t you?!

 

[CariettaWhite]

I don’t think the McCanns had anything to do with Madeleines disappearance. I feel desperately sorry for them. I can only begin to imagine their pain.

However… at the same time I also can’t imagine leaving my children alone in a strange place, so far away, in an unlocked apartment. Feeling sorry for them doesn’t mean I don’t also think they were disgustingly negligent and they’re certainly unlikeable.

That poor little girl. I think the most likely scenario is that she wandered off and was snatched by an opportunistic wrongun. If she didn’t end up in the sea I suspect her remains will be found at some point.

 

[Cur83]

I think like the vile reported smell from the car boot that had to be left open for days, it was attributed to rubbish they took to the tip.

I always hire a car on holiday and transport smelly bags of rotting food, don’t you?!

ahhh of course. Especially when they were eating out, and would have had a bin their hotel room.

What human being goes on holiday and goes to the tip to take their daily rubbish.

 

[Okivia2020]

God I’m on holiday in Portugal at the moment and this thread is giving me fear! I really just don’t understand how they could relax at the tapas bar with their children not in sight

 

[Nelly's mum]

Thousands of messages saying they’ve done the same thing,
What’s done is done.
The guilt in the first few days was difficult.
At worst they were naive.
I switched off after 3 minutes as I couldn’t stomach anymore.

Look at their faces, it is all very measured but they know what they've done - they were careless and neglectful and their daughter paid the ultimate price, and they have to hold their hands up to that in front of everyone.

Truely a million apologies would not be enough, what happened cannot be undone.

 

[Emsie]

It was the "Ask the Dogs Sandra" comment from Gerry that did it for me......

It was the lies for me. At first it was "like eating in your back garden" then we find out it's through an alley and down a lane!

 

[Emsie]

With the twins, even if you had drugged them why not get them tested and say the abductor must have done it. I agree with the above, they hindered the case so much. And soon, they'll be wheeling out some more "news" so the fund can be topped up.

 

[Tangerine Cat]

Didn't also the McCanns themselves repeatedly talk about, how the situation with them being at the Tapas bar and the children in 9A sleeping on their own was basically like having a barbecue in your back garden while thr kids are in bed sleeping. So Gerry basically confessed those circumstances.

Yes, but as with all their stories it’s a lie. The room the kids were sleeping in was round the other side of the apartment from where they were sitting.

They were also sitting in a large plastic marquee, so how they think you can see the apartment in the dark through those plastic windows beggars belief. The trouble is, not many people know all that and think it Was like being in a back garden.

the Portuguese police didn’t want neglect charges though, they wanted the proper charges of Maddies death and cover up.

off topic but I was in another forum at the time this happened and they got talking about this, I was shocked at the number of people who said they’d stayed in a hotel and left their babies whilst they’d gone down for a meal (some of them said they’d got baby monitors with them On the table.

They really thought this was good parenting I mean, what if there was a fire? How does I’m just going upstairs to rescue my baby sound? And sitting at the meal table with their baby monitor advertising the fact their baby is alone in a room! I just cant believe some people.

 

[Freda Fandango]

Just another thought. Wasn't the door left unlocked? If Madeleine had woken previous nights crying how were they so blatant as to go out again? Why were they so sure she wouldnt wake up? She was nearly 4 so if she was able to open the door she possibly would have went looking for her parents.

In which case there was a great big pool she could have fallen into, in addition to accidents in the apartment

But they still did it...one wonders why the twins slept through all the furore, ok babies can, but didnt wake for hours and Kate checked them.

Medicated has been discussed before and their hair was never checked. So which was it?

Were they stupid niave and selfish or were they slyly medicating them?

Either scenario makes them horrors

 

[Sausageface]

Erm, with a “pre-Madeleine lens“ it still seemed very wrong to 99.9% of us to leave young children unattended.
I can assure you it most definitely was NOT “more of a thing” back then.
People who justify their actions as being “normal” back then are at best deluded.
Their social life and stomachs were more important than their children. Whatever happened to Madeleine, she was the innocent one who paid the ultimate price. Unforgivable.

It was more socially acceptable to leave children back then. I remember being on a cruise about a year before she went missing and then baby listening service they advertised was that you left your child in your cabin and did something to the phone so that you could call in from wherever you were on the ship to have a quick listen in as and when you liked. I thought it was madness but plenty of people used it. Also in hotels you would let reception know your child was in your room whilst you went for a meal and a member of staff would listen at your door once an hour. Again, madness, but a service used by many!