Lucy Letby Case #82

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I read on one of these "innocent" Facebook groups someone saying they thought it was Deakin who murdered and harmed the babies for which Letby was blamed. It shows how much they know about the case as he didn't work there when a lot of the incidents happened.
it's better than most of their theories
 
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At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist I have wondered about Old Man Letby’s “connections”, just saying so. I might be way off the mark and it could just be simply that the story is guaranteed to generate clicks and press attention for the “supporters”. Another thing is that a lot of people have an axe to grind with the NHS and see this as a way to tell their own unfortunate stories. The unit does sound like a bit of a shitshow but that doesn’t exclude the possibility of a murderer flying under the radar there, in fact it’s probably part of the reason she got away with it for so long. I say “so long” because she should have been removed much sooner but it was actually a very short space of time where she went nuclear and attacked as many babies as she could. Though most of us (police included) suspect it was going on much longer in less obvious ways. The issue is clouded in some people’s minds by the downgrading of the unit afterwards.
Another thing that sticks in my mind is the fact she used Dr. Simp to try and keep working, slyly concealing why she had been removed. That’s not the actions of a normal person and would definitely be frowned upon by the NMC. IIRC she wasn’t facing sanctions from them but as a nurse you know it would be brought up at any fitness to practice hearing. As such a conscientious and diligent nurse who worried her perfect practice may be to blame (and who probably should have been reported while still a student- it does happen) you would not want to give them any ammunition. As Igiveup points out upthread about the pattern of deaths, there was also a pattern of behaviour. She didn’t abide by rules or instructions, always thinking she was above all that and entitled to do whatever she wanted. Manipulating others into believing her sob story and acting on her behalf, it’s still going on now ffs!
Letby was very strange, aside from all the harm which the sympathisers forget. Taking home all the 257 handover sheets and deliberately storing them in various places. These were clearly important to her. Keeping her first handover sheet when she was a student in a special rose patterned box. Stalking parents on Facebook, some she didn't actually know and then looking them up on the anniversary of the baby's death as well as in the middle of the night on Christmas day (dates that would have particularly sad significance for them). A very strange and ghoulish woman which people overlook when they are singing her praises.
 
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I read on one of these "innocent" Facebook groups someone saying they thought it was Deakin who murdered and harmed the babies for which Letby was blamed. It shows how much they know about the case as he didn't work there when a lot of the incidents happened.
They are confusing real life with a soap/ twisty fiction novels.
 
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What I find fascinating is there's all these people who say that the evidence to prove her innocence is massive (which it's not) yet ignore the fact that if there was so much evidence to prove she was innocent why did her defence not produce it in the first place.
 
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What I find fascinating is there's all these people who say that the evidence to prove her innocence is massive (which it's not) yet ignore the fact that if there was so much evidence to prove she was innocent why did her defence not produce it in the first place.
I saw this earlier on X. Pre trial the defence pathologist produced reports for the murdered babies but they weren't referred to at the trial. There were also defence reports by an endocrinologist and radiologist which agreed with the prosecution.
 
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I saw this earlier on X. Pre trial the defence pathologist produced reports for the murdered babies but they weren't referred to at the trial. There were also defence reports by an endocrinologist and radiologist which agreed with the prosecution.
Listening to this week's Double Jeopardy podcast they said that the defence would be explaining to the CCRC the reasons for the trial strategy. No wonder Letby dug in her heels over waiving privilege.
 
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Listening to this week's Double Jeopardy podcast they said that the defence would be explaining to the CCRC the reasons for the trial strategy. No wonder Letby dug in her heels over waiving privilege.
I liked this week’s episode although I think they (esp Tim) take the “new” evidence a bit too seriously and Tim was a little critical of Shannon and Chase flouncing. He said (paraphrasing) they aren’t defence experts but have a duty to the courts so shouldn’t matter what other experts are saying. It’s like the penny has not quite clicked with them what kind of camapign this is. The defence experts very much see themselves as Team Letby, not impartial experts for the courts.

But overall it was a good episode.
 
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I liked this week’s episode although I think they (esp Tim) take the “new” evidence a bit too seriously and Tim was a little critical of Shannon and Chase flouncing. He said (paraphrasing) they aren’t defence experts but have a duty to the courts so shouldn’t matter what other experts are saying. It’s like the penny has not quite clicked with them what kind of camapign this is. The defence experts very much see themselves as Team Letby, not impartial experts for the courts.

But overall it was a good episode.
I did like his/their criticism of McDonald though. Strong words about how he has conducted this appeal.
 
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I liked this week’s episode although I think they (esp Tim) take the “new” evidence a bit too seriously and Tim was a little critical of Shannon and Chase flouncing. He said (paraphrasing) they aren’t defence experts but have a duty to the courts so shouldn’t matter what other experts are saying. It’s like the penny has not quite clicked with them what kind of camapign this is. The defence experts very much see themselves as Team Letby, not impartial experts for the courts.
They took another opportunity to say how much they respected Neena Modi - seemingly oblivious to the fact she was head of the RCPCH at the time of the College's report into the deaths. The RCPCH has subsequently expressed profound apologies for their part in the shambles.
 
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Enjoyed this in the report.
But, but her counsellor told her to write she did it and that she's evil!
 
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Great new podcast episode with Caroline and Liz out today. They have Kim Pilling alongside them and it's essentially a whole hour of them taking down Rachel Aviv 😂 My only annoyance is that they are all so vehement they keep talking over each other!!
 
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The latest article from Peter Hitchens is mostly about the former Prince Andrew. But Letby gets a mention of course because the article is about the nasty police doing investigations. It seems he thinks someone should be found guilty before there home is searched and they are arrested 😂
It’s revealing that this is at the heart of Hitchens innocence campaign for Letby.

Some of my favourite quotes:
The only thing I do know is that he has not been charged with, or convicted of, any actual crime in a court of law. And therefore, under English law, he is presumed innocent.

So why was he arrested at home at breakfast time on his birthday?

Why was he taken away under entertainer, held for hours and then released late at night, in time to be photographed in the back of a car looking suitably miserable?

Ask yourself what it must be like to have your home invaded by grim-jawed strangers, poking into every corner and sucking their teeth as they stick their noses into your private existence?

I am reminded of the police who appeared in the garden of Lucy Letby’s tiny suburban semi, erecting a tent and digging about the place. What did they expect to find?


 
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Hitchens has been writing about this as far back as 2012. I’m starting to wonder what it is he’s so worried about!

 
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Some of my favourite quotes:
The only thing I do know is that he has not been charged with, or convicted of, any actual crime in a court of law. And therefore, under English law, he is presumed innocent.

So why was he arrested at home at breakfast time on his birthday?

Why was he taken away under entertainer, held for hours and then released late at night, in time to be photographed in the back of a car looking suitably miserable?
Probably because you get arrested before you get charged...thats how it works you thick b :ROFLMAO:
 
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The latest article from Peter Hitchens is mostly about the former Prince Andrew. But Letby gets a mention of course because the article is about the nasty police doing investigations. It seems he thinks someone should be found guilty before there home is searched and they are arrested 😂
It’s revealing that this is at the heart of Hitchens innocence campaign for Letby.

Some of my favourite quotes:
The only thing I do know is that he has not been charged with, or convicted of, any actual crime in a court of law. And therefore, under English law, he is presumed innocent.

So why was he arrested at home at breakfast time on his birthday?

Why was he taken away under entertainer, held for hours and then released late at night, in time to be photographed in the back of a car looking suitably miserable?

Ask yourself what it must be like to have your home invaded by grim-jawed strangers, poking into every corner and sucking their teeth as they stick their noses into your private existence?

I am reminded of the police who appeared in the garden of Lucy Letby’s tiny suburban semi, erecting a tent and digging about the place. What did they expect to find?


Yeah he's an idiot. Preserving a scene and evidence is what the police do when their is suspicion that a crime has taken place. If they didn't do this there would be more unsolved crime.
 
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Some of my favourite quotes:
The only thing I do know is that he has not been charged with, or convicted of, any actual crime in a court of law. And therefore, under English law, he is presumed innocent.
Interesting thought process. So one would therefore assume that if someone is charged with, then convicted of actual crimes in a court of law and have then had appeal court judges uphold the original court decisions that should surely make them guilty? 🤔 Unless it's Lucifer of course.
 
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Interesting thought process. So one would therefore assume that if someone is charged with, then convicted of actual crimes in a court of law and have then had appeal court judges uphold the original court decisions that should surely make them guilty? 🤔 Unless it's Lucifer of course.
Well her guilty verdict doesn’t count as she was arrested at 6am in her Lee Cooper tracksuit pyjamas and her garden was dug up for no reason whatsoever, so therefore she couldn’t possibly have had a fair trial.
 
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