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Yeah right. They may not be close friends but they could be acquaintances, or just friends. He's lying
All Masons are brothers. They call it "The Craft" in Scotland which I find exceedingly creepy but believe me, if one Mason is in trouble and he can find another Mason to help him out of it, anyone of them called upon is obligated to answer that call.
 
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Corinne makes the point, that by not taking babies who are below 32 weeks, this will cause the mortality to drop. However baby A was only days off 32 weeks and stable, baby D was a term baby who was not desperately ill, baby I was several weeks old (and over 34 weeks corrected gestational age when she died), and both triplets were 33 weeks. Also one of the non indictment babies that died was a term baby. So it wasn't that they were dying due to complications of extreme prematurity.
Dr Breary explains this nonsense argument very well in his evidence I think. In a way I hadn’t really processed before. Every time she hurt a baby, they would need higher care and so acuity is higher. She’s making nursery 4 babies end up in the intensive care cots. And every time she does that, they are likely to then fall behind on staffing quotas because they now have babies during that shift that need 1:1 care that didn’t previously.
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He also makes clear that over half of the deaths were babies over 32 weeks. Which is quite staggering when you look at statistics around survival for those babies (95+%).


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So in September 2016, the execs were speaking to employment lawyers about getting a consultant removed from the NNU. doesn’t say which one but I’m sure we can take a guess! Fancy trying to get Letby back on the unit and aiming to remove the consultant that is raising the concerns.

This was Ian Pace yesterday. I’m about to read Corinne Slingo who I think will be given a hard time as she sends an email advising the exec the theshold to inform police has not been met.

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“Do we need five minutes, is she coming a long way?” Hahahaha 🤣

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So in September 2016, the execs were speaking to employment lawyers about getting a consultant removed from the NNU. doesn’t say which one but I’m sure we can take a guess! Fancy trying to get Letby back on the unit and aiming to remove the consultant that is raising the concerns.

This was Ian Pace yesterday. I’m about to read Corinne Slingo who I think will be given a hard time as she sends an email advising the exec the theshold to inform police has not been met.

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“Do we need five minutes, is she coming a long way?” Hahahaha 🤣

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What is this mystical "threshold" that has to be reached? Potential crimes are reported to the police all the time. The police then have to decide what to do. Most of the time they don't do anything.
 
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What is this mystical "threshold" that has to be reached? Potential crimes are reported to the police all the time. The police then have to decide what to do. Most of the time they don't do anything.
Surely even one unexplained death breaches the 'threshold' bearing in mind the consultants concerns.
 
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Not sure why he thinks saying that nobody else on the board is a mason makes his argument stronger...more begs the question of why the one board member who is a mason specifically chose to contact somebody else who he knows is a mason to be involved.
I don’t really care who else on the exec board is a Mason, I wanna know who OUTSIDE of the board / hospital that has a lot of skin in the game is a Mason 🤫🤫

also. Love that for Ian Harvey that he gets two days of Lady Thirlwall and the KCs 🥹 they gonna eat.
 
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So in September 2016, the execs were speaking to employment lawyers about getting a consultant removed from the NNU. doesn’t say which one but I’m sure we can take a guess! Fancy trying to get Letby back on the unit and aiming to remove the consultant that is raising the concerns.
Wait so they allowed Letby to file a grievance even though in their own policy she shouldn’t be allowed to as the consultants are covered under whistleblowing and we believe they allowed her to hold said grievance because they were worried about an unfair dismissal type situation but then were actively trying to go against the same whitleblowing policy to remove a consultant that would result in an unfair dismissal situation??? Huh???? Make it make sense.

Also VERY glad Ian Harvey is down for two days. I hope he has the worst two days ever.
 
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Wait so they allowed Letby to file a grievance even though in their own policy she shouldn’t be allowed to as the consultants are covered under whistleblowing and we believe they allowed her to hold said grievance because they were worried about an unfair dismissal type situation but then were actively trying to go against the same whitleblowing policy to remove a consultant that would result in an unfair dismissal situation??? Huh???? Make it make sense.

Also VERY glad Ian Harvey is down for two days. I hope he has the worst two days ever.
Yep! There wasn’t anything else said in that transcript about it but I expect they were advised they couldn’t get rid of him that easily.

Sue Hodkinson will also have a lot to answer next week too. It’s going to be very intense next week I think.

I’m wondering what other bombshells will come out because surely the execs were sending emails amongst themselves about this which won’t have been revealed in evidence so far.
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I’m also wondering if Cheshire Police will want a word with Mr Harvey after he’s given inquiry evidence but before he ducks off back to France.
 
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Next week is gonna be so good. Harvey is about to be shredded. Can't wait. I wonder if he will crumble or if he will be the sodding arrogant b he's been up till now
 
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Next week is gonna be so good. Harvey is about to be shredded. Can't wait. I wonder if he will crumble or if he will be the sodding arrogant b he's been up till now
I reckon he will absolutely be arrogant. He’ll be shitting himself about the police…although I do hope he gets spoken to like Tofino mentioned 🤞🏼
 
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I reckon he will absolutely be arrogant. He’ll be shitting himself about the police…although I do hope he gets spoken to like Tofino mentioned 🤞🏼
I think he will start off arrogant, blaming others, throwing everyone under the bus, then as the questions go on he will tie himself in more and more knots.
 
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I wonder if he'll have a barrister? My understanding is it would be funded.
The four exec all have the same legal representation so don’t think it will be his own independent of the others. I presume this might mean they are all going to take a similar stance. I do wonder who funds it, maybe the inquiry covers legal costs for all core participants.

I’ll do a new thread.
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New thread.

 
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