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Tofino

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Ah fellas, do you remember I sat a horrible exam a while ago? I got my results. I was not feeling confident as it was quite tricky and thought even if I passed it would be borderline (70% to pass).

I only frigging passed with 90% !!!! Absolutely over the moon and hoping this is a good sign that we have another positive result any day now. 🤞🏻
 
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mRsKbRoOkS

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Sad morning in the B’s house today, little Hammy is taking his last breaths 😢 I’m just sat here cradling him, he is holding on so much. He is 2 and half years old now and has been slowing down the last few weeks but has lived a good life and is the most tame loving little creature. I know he is only a Hamster but gosh I feel so distraught sat here proper balling, think it’s all mixed in with emotions from Dad dying and a delayed grief response. I’m a fucking wreck right now.


glad to see court is back on! 🙏
 
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LittleMy

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I think calling the jury “thick cunts” etc is a bit below the belt tbh. We don’t know them or why they asked the question. The important part is that they are discussing it thoroughly and asking for clarification from the judge. As much as we here mostly believe in her guilt and would condemn her with no hesitation, they’re the ones who actually have to be sure. It’s in their hands, not ours.
 
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Tofino

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The questions asked so far have related to attempted murder charges (F, L and H). I wonder if the jury are finding these harder to reach a verdict on in line with the directions/question thread the judge asked them to follow, than the actual murder charges?
Which is an interesting theory because if they had decided she was NG of murder then surely she would easily be NG of attempted murder?
 
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studentgossip

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If LL walks away with NG on all charges it will be the biggest miscarriage of justice this country has ever seen
 
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KatieMorag

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I do not feel good about these jurors.

WTF are they playing at? They seriously don't think they've been given enough evidence in that dossier or heard enough over the past 9 months? It's not up to them to work out anything that hasn't been told to them.

I think they're going to fuck this up.
 
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DellaC

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I really do wish you all would:


There's always ALWAYS one. The juror is the one that asks all the daft questions at the end of a training session when you want to go home.

She will not be walking anywhere....other than The Green Mile.
 
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slingo16

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Defence and prosecution both agree multiple times the insulin incidents were deliberate attacks. Wtf does c pep levels even matter at this point. It’s like asking a how long a victim would take to bleed out in a stabbing case… weird
 
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LilyRose1234

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I’m not too concerned about the jury questions tbh, the insulin is complicated (I don’t still fully understand it), and they haven’t had a chance to discuss this together until recently and fully assimilate all the evidence they’ve heard. They don’t have the benefit of googling and doing further research, and for all we know one of them may have a passing knowledge of insulin and has got their facts muddled.
They have rearranged their lives for nine months, lost out financially, likely missed family events and kids nativities, had to sit through months of complex medical information and harrowing details of babies being murdered that they can’t discuss with anyone else. At least one of them has had some significant medical issues, there may have been bereavements, family illnesses, major life changes in the last nine months. To assume they’re stupid and not taking it seriously does them a massive disservice IMO. Given how much they have to consider, and what is at stake here, I’d be shocked if they came back within a working week of deliberations. It’s easy for us to say we think she’s guilty but a) we haven’t actually heard or seen all the evidence and been reliant on often patchy reporting and b) we’re not actually responsible for making a decision which could send someone to prison for the rest of their life, or deny bereaved families justice, not to mention the pressure of making such a decision in a high profile case like this. Whatever the verdict, the time it’s taking would indicate they’re taking it seriously, and if they don’t think the evidence holds up, it doesn’t make them thick or stupid, just means having been the only twelve people (aside from those involved) who have actually heard all the evidence, they don’t think there is enough to show she is guilty.
Sorry that was longer than I thought, but I really feel for them all today
 
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elderflowerrose

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I had to give the last thread a miss … had my little girl on Tuesday. I’m almost back to thinking it must be some huge, awful mistake as I simply can’t imagine anyone wanting to hurt a baby. It’s also really brought home the pain the parents must be in, so I just hope it is all resolved soon.
 
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DellaC

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The frustration is high my loves, it was always going to be. We are scrutinising and second guessing the jury. Because that's all we have to do.

We all just want justice for all these beautiful babies and their families. If I was on the jury I'd have said guilty already, I wouldn't need to discuss it. But others may need more time.

Don't get stressed with each other please, let's just wait it out.

If a Mum who gave birth to 3 babies but only has 1 child to hug can get through this then I'm damn sure we can x
 
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oldjamfan

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Stay calm folks - worst case scenario here is that there is one - possibly two at a stretch - jurors who are questioning absolutely everything. I can see this ending up being decided on a majority verdict of 10-2 or 11-1, but they WILL come back with the correct, GUILTY AS FUCK, verdict, I am sure.
 
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mRsKbRoOkS

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he’s gone died peacefully in my hands. I’m currently digging a 2 foot fucking hole at the back of the garden in the pouring fucking rain (because Google told me it had to be at least that deep, 1 ft down 😫)……crying to myself and cursing Mr B for not being here and for me having to dig this bloody hole, when it is deffo a job for him, …… honestly I’d be laughing if it wasn’t all so tragic! I’m sure our CFO @DellaC is having a little giggle - what a waste of fucking bath water that was this morning 😭😭😭…… right back to it was just taking a breather to share my disaster of a day ❤love all ❤
 
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Delstar

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The questions asked so far have related to attempted murder charges (F, L and H). I wonder if the jury are finding these harder to reach a verdict on in line with the directions/question thread the judge asked them to follow, than the actual murder charges?
 
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slingo16

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The legal system is nonsensical just let the jury see whatever they want, it’s not a memory test is it
 
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Hspl4

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Celebrated what would have been my friend's son's first birthday this weekend, he passed away in March in his sleep (we 'hid' hundreds of rubber ducks around our county and further afield). Wanting answers you may never get for why these things happen is excruciating, I just want them to reach a verdict so these parents can have some closure. Living in limbo is torture.
 
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Motherofpugs

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If they do fuck this up, this case will be a perfect example of why certain cases would benefit from a professional jury. Imagine how frustrating it would be on the jury if some of the members are a bit slow shall we say 😂
 
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