Lucy Letby case #28

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She can remember why she wrote LOVE and why she wrote the words guys but she can’t remember arguing with people over where she was placed.
 
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I think she dropped herself in it the other day when she said Dr b 1&2 had raised concerns that she’d harmed them, then said she was being “framed for something someone else had done”
Id have my mind made up after that I think, cos she’s feigning innocence that it’s bad luck bad timing etc but “someone else had done” for me personally just gives away that she knows it’s not possible for all these incidents to be accidental. Sickly sweet kind beige nurse isn’t washing with me
 
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Sorry, just catching up with everything on these threads and the case as a whole…

I’ve been a nurse for over 18 years and worked in many various specialties and departments.
The majority of my career I’ve worked with many wonderful genuine caring people, but I’ve also come across some of the most evil, narcissistic, uncaring people too -only a handful of them luckily, but definitely the type of people that you question why they ever decided to become nurses or HCAs.
There are also the glory seekers too, and it seems to be the highly specialised areas that attract these types of nurses ….areas such as DCC, CCU, A&E, etc. I worked in CCU for almost a decade, and there were many of these types of characters over the years, the ones that seemed to absolutely THRIVE on drama and medical emergencies, and always seemed to be first there when a patient is peri-arrest or in any resus situation.
These were the types that would fawn over the doctors and kiss a, but would also be complete bullies to their nursing colleagues and vile to certain patients and their relatives -completely lacked empathy…
As a newly qualified 21 year old, I used to be absolutely terrified/intimidated and of these types of nurses, they were the Mean Girls of the department.
Im not saying that I’ve ever worked with any potential secret murderers, but there are definitely nurse Lucy characters around, and they are usually in the form of the most uber confident, grandiose, “dedicated” nurses…
 
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She can remember why she wrote LOVE and why she wrote the words guys but she can’t remember arguing with people over where she was placed.
Surprised she can recall anything if she was as anguished as she says she was
 
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I love how she includes her cats and former dog as part of her support network. Totally well balanced 🫣
 
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Of course she likes Ellie Goulding, of bleeping course. Didn't think she could get any more beige. How wrong I was!
 
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I’m sorry but the excuse for writing the babies names in the diary 🤣 who is buying that? Learned something. Assuming her house is overrun with all her old diaries as she’s always kept one and can’t throw things away?
 
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Sorry, just catching up with everything on these threads and the case as a whole…

I’ve been a nurse for over 18 years and worked in many various specialties and departments.
The majority of my career I’ve worked with many wonderful genuine caring people, but I’ve also come across some of the most evil, narcissistic, uncaring people too -only a handful of them luckily, but definitely the type of people that you question why they ever decided to become nurses or HCAs.
There are also the glory seekers too, and it seems to be the highly specialised areas that attract these types of nurses ….areas such as DCC, CCU, A&E, etc. I worked in CCU for almost a decade, and there were many of these types of characters over the years, the ones that seemed to absolutely THRIVE on drama and medical emergencies, and always seemed to be first there when a patient is peri-arrest or in any resus situation.
These were the types that would fawn over the doctors and kiss a, but would also be complete bullies to their nursing colleagues and vile to certain patients and their relatives -completely lacked empathy…
As a newly qualified 21 year old, I used to be absolutely terrified/intimidated and of these types of nurses, they were the Mean Girls of the department.
Im not saying that I’ve ever worked with any potential secret murderers, but there are definitely nurse Lucy characters around, and they are usually in the form of the most uber confident, grandiose, “dedicated” nurses…
That’s exactly what the friend I’ve mentioned on here was like. She was an HCSW. Everyone looks to her for advice, she knows more than her colleagues, everyone else is thick and she’s better than everyone, no sympathy for anyone in her care as she always has to be the worst off. She’d argue with a consultant that egg was cheese. I genuinely think narcissists and those that love the attention from bad things happening find solace working in healthcare due to the constant affirmations they receive. There’ll be virtually no mass murderers, but narcissistic personalities probably thrive there.
 
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Got to go on the school run now so will have to catch up on here later but does anyone else just feel like, of what she has said so far in the witness box, none of it is going in her favour 😂 Definitely feel like she has done this against Ben's wishes and he is literally clutching at straws at how to question her and make her sound innocent.
 
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So they are busy and understaffed, she doesn’t have time to update patient notes, but plenty of time to be on FB the whole time.. not buying this personally.
 
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Any nurses putting a patients name in their diary to reflect on?
 
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Twin Resus at 10, Salsa at 6.

I just saw a good tweet from someone saying the defence is trying to paint the ‘sweet Lucy’ narrative, here are the names of my cats, here’s me crying over my bedroom, making her look the victim.

Not buying it. Hope the jury aren’t either. I’d have to use all my self control not to roll my eyes if I was one of them.
 
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Sorry, just catching up with everything on these threads and the case as a whole…

I’ve been a nurse for over 18 years and worked in many various specialties and departments.
The majority of my career I’ve worked with many wonderful genuine caring people, but I’ve also come across some of the most evil, narcissistic, uncaring people too -only a handful of them luckily, but definitely the type of people that you question why they ever decided to become nurses or HCAs.
There are also the glory seekers too, and it seems to be the highly specialised areas that attract these types of nurses ….areas such as DCC, CCU, A&E, etc. I worked in CCU for almost a decade, and there were many of these types of characters over the years, the ones that seemed to absolutely THRIVE on drama and medical emergencies, and always seemed to be first there when a patient is peri-arrest or in any resus situation.
These were the types that would fawn over the doctors and kiss a, but would also be complete bullies to their nursing colleagues and vile to certain patients and their relatives -completely lacked empathy…
As a newly qualified 21 year old, I used to be absolutely terrified/intimidated and of these types of nurses, they were the Mean Girls of the department.
Im not saying that I’ve ever worked with any potential secret murderers, but there are definitely nurse Lucy characters around, and they are usually in the form of the most uber confident, grandiose, “dedicated” nurses…
That is horrific reading! One of my sisters is a nurse in mental health and says she knows a fair few nurses who have serious untreated mental health issues themselves.
 
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That’s exactly what the friend I’ve mentioned on here was like. She was an HCSW. Everyone looks to her for advice, she knows more than her colleagues, everyone else is thick and she’s better than everyone, no sympathy for anyone in her care as she always has to be the worst off. She’d argue with a consultant that egg was cheese. I genuinely think narcissists and those that love the attention from bad things happening find solace working in healthcare due to the constant affirmations they receive. There’ll be virtually no mass murderers, but narcissistic personalities probably thrive there.
Exactly this!.
Also what I find is that these types of nurses, who are supposedly so amazing will eventually leave the clinical setting for a higher band role, but it’s usually in the corporate division -so they end up never caring for patients again and will take their narcissism and bullying ways into management.
It’s like they can’t sustain the “caring” facade for very long unlike a truly dedicated nurse, the pretence will soon burn out and they seek higher things.
My ex-husband is a fine example of this….loved the drama of the ward as a band 5 nurse, always the first to argue with cardiac consultants and be super nurse, and now he’s a pen-pushing band 8 in the corporate division who openly admits he hated being a nurse all along and “wiping asses”, his high level of narcissism now equates his pay packet.
 
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