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Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but did LL qualify in 2011? And did she do her ICU course in 2014?
If so, she’s had a fair bit of post registration experience but is still a band 5, even with her additional training. Do you think she’s applied for a band 6 post and been rejected? Even worse, usurped, in her eyes, by someone relatively newly qualified with less training? Would intense jealousy and resentment be a trigger for her actions?
Her ‘I killed them on purpose because I’m not good enough to care for them’ statement has always struck me as meaning, just what it says really.
If so, she’s had a fair bit of post registration experience but is still a band 5, even with her additional training. Do you think she’s applied for a band 6 post and been rejected? Even worse, usurped, in her eyes, by someone relatively newly qualified with less training? Would intense jealousy and resentment be a trigger for her actions?
Her ‘I killed them on purpose because I’m not good enough to care for them’ statement has always struck me as meaning, just what it says really.
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It has somewhat annoyed me that the daily mail report LL’s unmade bed after her arrest with the implication of idleness and general dishevelled sort of lifestyle! Murderer or no, what sort of person is awake before 6 in the morning with their bed made?
It does make me think ‘tit, I really hope I am never arrested’
It does make me think ‘tit, I really hope I am never arrested’
If she was ‘triggered’ by getting a dying baby to look after, after another had died, do you think that still makes it likely it is just a munchausens type situation or not?
I was listening to an old podcast where criminal profilers were predicting the profile of the Idaho murderer based on just what they knew of the killings, before he had been caught, and they were spot on. I would be so interested if profiler types could look at this case and pick apart what they thought the killer would be like and the motivations because I find it hard to understand.
I was listening to an old podcast where criminal profilers were predicting the profile of the Idaho murderer based on just what they knew of the killings, before he had been caught, and they were spot on. I would be so interested if profiler types could look at this case and pick apart what they thought the killer would be like and the motivations because I find it hard to understand.
Yeah she qualified 2011, I was thinking this too since the band 5/6 was clarified. Im surprised she had 5yr post qualifying NICU experience and additional training but was still a band 5. Nothing wrong with that of course, some people love the band 5 staff nurse role but she obviously wanted progression.
If that’s true, then perhaps it’s that rejection that acted as a “trigger”?
Some people have wondered why she started killing so suddenly in 2015 (assuming that’s true of course; we’ll find out once the police have finished their investigation into further possible deaths).
If what you’re saying is true, then that explains why it took until 2015 for her to start killing babies (and not, say, from 2011, soon after qualifying). Beverley Alitt, by comparison, for example, started killing straight away.
Someone with a pack of screaming children (me).It has somewhat annoyed me that the daily mail report LL’s unmade bed after her arrest with the implication of idleness and general dishevelled sort of lifestyle! Murderer or no, what sort of person is awake before 6 in the morning with their bed made?
It does make me think ‘tit, I really hope I am never arrested’
I’m often awake then … but my bed is NOT made usually take my toddler back to bed with me and CBeebies!
usually take my toddler back to bed with me and CBeebies!
This wouldn’t surprise me, and would also fit in with the ‘I killed them because I’m not good enough’. Honestly her being ‘super nurse’ and still being band 5 five years after qualification doesn’t massively fit in. Of course it happens if people just don’t get the opportunity to progress but generally the really amazing nurses, if they don’t have kids or anything else holding them back, get a band 6 role pretty quickly, usually within 3-4 years post registration.
She was 4 years post reg when she supposedly started killing? Perhaps when she saw she wasn’t having the career she wanted she decided to give in to her urges?
I would imagine, much like operating at nights (like most HCSK), there’ll be a reason why it was more beneficial to her to be band 5 and work at the CoCH over other hospitals, that surely would have given her “the excitement” she desired from working with sicker babies. Funny how she disputes having arguments about working in the outside nurseries, it’s there in her own words in text messages more than once.
Even just the lay out of the unit really was a gift to her.
Every time she’s off work, she texts all the time about it but she’ll often bring up the “terrible skill set” of those on shift… she’s such a fool so yeah it’s interesting isn’t it how someone that thinks so highly of herself, hasn’t actually gone to achieve what she supposedly easily could have.
IMO if it feels like it doesn’t add up.. there’s a reason for that.
Even the photo of the words in the card, her excuse is that it was a memory she wanted record of. But keeping blood gas reports and paper towels, organised in a bag with other stuff from a huge time period… was forgetfulness
or tucking her post it note into her diary is not a purposefully hanging on to something either.
Even just the lay out of the unit really was a gift to her.
Every time she’s off work, she texts all the time about it but she’ll often bring up the “terrible skill set” of those on shift… she’s such a fool
so yeah it’s interesting isn’t it how someone that thinks so highly of herself, hasn’t actually gone to achieve what she supposedly easily could have. IMO if it feels like it doesn’t add up.. there’s a reason for that.
Even the photo of the words in the card, her excuse is that it was a memory she wanted record of. But keeping blood gas reports and paper towels, organised in a bag with other stuff from a huge time period… was forgetfulness
or tucking her post it note into her diary is not a purposefully hanging on to something either.
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Does anyone know has it been said about the surviving babies, how they are? Did they fully recover?
Does anyone know how to do a new thread? And is court on today?
There are some with brain damage because of long periods without oxygen. There were normal brain scans at birth and after Letby’s attack, later ones that showed brain damage. One baby is quadriplegic as a result.
None of them have gone on to show they had issues with their symptoms that led to them almost dying whilst under the care of Letby. E.g. baby N has never gone on to have spontaneous bleeding. No babies have been proven to have health conditions that can in any way explain why they would have prolonged cardiac arrest and have no further issues with their heart etc.
Right guys get ye thread thread title suggestions in!!!!
I will say that nursing is an incredibly b*tchy profession and it’s extremely common for nurses to talk tit about each other’s competency. Wouldn’t surprise me if that was the culture of the ward, it has been everywhere I worked except one place.Every time she’s off work, she texts all the time about it but she’ll often bring up the “terrible skill set” of those on shift… she’s such a fool
IMO if it feels like it doesn’t add up.. there’s a reason for that.
Don’t forget she also came in on her days off, remember she called in for something, but then went up to see one of the babies on her day offI would imagine, much like operating at nights (like most HCSK), there’ll be a reason why it was more beneficial to her to be band 5 and work at the CoCH over other hospitals, that surely would have given her “the excitement” she desired from working with sicker babies. Funny how she disputes having arguments about working in the outside nurseries, it’s there in her own words in text messages more than once.
Even just the lay out of the unit really was a gift to her.
Every time she’s off work, she texts all the time about it but she’ll often bring up the “terrible skill set” of those on shift… she’s such a fool
IMO if it feels like it doesn’t add up.. there’s a reason for that.
Even the photo of the words in the card, her excuse is that it was a memory she wanted record of. But keeping blood gas reports and paper towels, organised in a bag with other stuff from a huge time period… was forgetfulness
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Can we also have two polls, one for hair colour and one for whether we think she’ll take the stand or not. I’m not funny enough to think of thread titles, I’ll leave that to you and @DellaC
wish we’d done some all the way through for it they’d been allowed what would we have pickedYes for baby F, the one she’d poisoned! That she obsessively asked for updates about too.
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My favourite bit is when she was going on and on slagging someone off for coming to work with conjunctivitis and then immediately texts said person afterwards a “you ok hun xoxo” type message
she’s an absolute witch that’s for sure.
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