Lucy Letby Case #16

[slingo16]

I mean, if it came out that the mother was suffering severely from post natal depression / psychosis or had something else going on which would mean she was traumatised to the point she couldn’t remember things properly, then yeah I could believe that. But that isn’t the case so I don’t think it’s really much of a defence for me to just say ‘yeah maybe she isn’t remembering correctly bc of trauma’.

That’s interesting, we don’t know any of these things though she may well have some sort of mental health issue relating to the event, I mean, a new mother who’s baby had died has got to be pretty likely to have suffered from something like this.
I actually think it’s the only defence, how ever unlikely it may be. If the defence admit to LL falsifying the notes of child who died that’s going to look extremely bad. Again I don’t necessarily believe LLs account I just think it’s the only semi reasonable explanation of she’s innocent

 

[poppyseed1]

Is this thread not at risk of jeopardising the trial ? In Ireland any online discussion like this would have serious consequences

 

[avabella]

Yes it was. It’s either that or she’s very unlucky to have had yet another baby die in an extremely sudden and rare way after seemingly doing very well before. So which one is it, lucky or unlucky

If she takes to the stand on a different baby and says actually looking at the X-ray I can see that I HAVE missed an obstruction and I think that means the cause of death was NEC- would you question it as suspicious then? If a doctor later was able to say yes actually it was this natural cause and it benefited Letby’s case - would it be suspicious? Or is it suspicious because it works against her?

Well you tell me, because can she be both? If she has murdered all those babies so far, and this one escalated but the Consultant missed it and put it down as NEC then by God she was incredibly lucky.

Whatever she says now on the stand will be tainted for me unfortunately. There must have been a massive chain of command to ascertain a death and to not stand up and say something if you knew the picture didn't fit, just doesn't sit right with me.

Do you have a link to this? I haven't seen anything about that, but if she was on call it wouldn't be unusual to be in the resident block?

I'm just heading out but can you ping me to remind me please? I'll find it, it was on Twitter somewhere.

Do you have a link to this? I haven't seen anything about that, but if she was on call it wouldn't be unusual to be in the resident block?

The inference I got from this was that she took too long to get there.

Also, for a trial based on babies crashing ‘unexpectedly’, this consultant said in a police interview that it was to be expected. Nothing is making sense.

 

[Deeznutslol]

Has anyone got the link for the reporting today pls?

 

[OldBlondie]

That is an abhorrent accusation. The joke about Letby and her bad luck is very explicitly about Letby and not about parents that have had their babies murdered. I will be accused of anything on this thread but not that. Let’s see who in the non mean girl clique likes that post knowing full well I am not making jokes at the expense of baby loss. You have no idea what anybody has been through either.

Same, thank you for wording it better than I did though

 

[wishiniwasskinny]

God love Darrell

 

[OldBlondie]

Ahh remember who wants to keep this discussion hashtag be kind eh remember guys! So not a mean girl are we

Honestly this thread has been a minefield tonight. Can’t do right for doing wrong I don’t care what people think of me or my posts. I just don’t reply to anything I disagree with, or posters that the conversation is just going round In circles with, as I’m trying not to let anything to do with me derail tonight. There have been everywhere tonight though

 

[Hinchawakening]

She can’t remember or explain much so that should speed things up

Thanks for clarifying, so it’s unlikely to be the case that she says she doesn’t remember doing the searches to cover her ass at work and avoid trouble for doing so

edit: quoted the wrong person, soz… was meant for the above comment from @Daisydunn15

 

[avabella]

Can anyone clarify when LL called for the consultant? I know she arrived at 12.35am, but when was she called?

 

[avabella]

I saw the video of the room he would have been in on itv news tonight. It was tiny. Much smaller than I would have thought. Nothing was very far away so I would say that if she was at the station she can’t have been more than 6feet away from any cot

What channel was this on please? Would it be available on a catch up service?

 

[PumpkinxQueen]

I am struggling to understand all the insulin chat and dosage and then the nurse says he hasn’t been on insulin? I feel like I’m missing something?View attachment 1732818View attachment 1732818

I was also wondering if the incorrect dose had been prescribed (the scribbled out one) just perhaps by accident somehow

 

[MrsDimSum]

I am struggling to understand all the insulin chat and dosage and then the nurse says he hasn’t been on insulin? I feel like I’m missing something?

 

[feistyoneanddone]

It’s the prosecutions case that there wasn’t anyone prescribed with it on the ward in the later insulin poisoning case, so I wouldn’t say it’s biased reporting at all.

I’ve said in my previous post it’s my opinion that if Letby had asked for permission to do the footprints and cut their baby’s hair, the mother would not have been surprised by the memory box as I would have thought Letby would have mentioned what those things would be used for when she gained consent from them. I can’t picture a conversation where she’d ask for consent for a lock of their baby’s hair without explaining what she’d be using it for. If she did do that, I’d think that extremely odd to be honest. Sorry, I don’t think we can expect to have 100% accuracy here as it’s a forum not the courtroom. It’s easily done as just shown by mix up over the insulin prescriptions not being biased reporting.

Thats where the mix up has occurred - I had thought it was part of the prosecution case that no one had been prescribed it for any of charges.

However, all of the reporting has a bias to it IMO as its all being worded as if she is guilty.

 

[slingo16]

Yes, all defendants have the right to see the evidence that is held against them so it will have been passed to the defence.

Given the strong question I’m going to assume the prosecution don’t have a lot to back up the mothers 9pm visit

 

[feistyoneanddone]

I think she means on the wrist bands. My Sons was also just my last name even when he had a name. @I’mThankyou_ should know x

My daughters wrist band has her actual name on.