Lucy Letby Case #13

[Aberscot]

what If she’s not guilty ( I think she is), but I just can’t get past a few things to make me think it’s all been a big mistake and she didn’t harm them.
was it coincidence she was on shift ( she worked lots) , need to be very unlucky every time a baby collapsed she was there.Also some of the babies weren’t her responsibility yet she was there.
Was she just a tit nurse and killed/ harmed as accident, but insulin deaths make this unlikely
Facebook searches, yeah I can see that been innocent too but months Later and why lie in interview, why not just say I was nosey or concerned how parents were doing.
Unit was crap and understaffed, but again was it that bad to cause babies to crash and die suddenly.
Drs opinions so far ( I know we have to hear defence yet) but honestly I am not medical so can’t disagree when they say that babies have been harmed deliberatlely
way she behaved with some parents, totally inappropriate but again she could just be tit at her job and no empathy skills.
When told to get out family room , she didnt and had to be told multiple times to leave…. I can’t get past why anyone would do this!

The list could go on but that stands out to me so far, I think if she is guilty there will be more charges after every person in her care over her professional life is looked at.. so tattle this thread could be a long running one !
I cant wait to hear what her defence is going to say as for me it’s not looking good right now

 

[helcob1977]

NPD and BPD are often conflated/confused but are very different. Typically those with NPD never seek treatment (I'm not sure if they are treatable) but BPD most definitely is!! I think a lot of the stigma comes from the two being mixed up and grouped together...

I hope you are doing well and I am sorry there is such a stigma. I won't lie, I was ignorant and grouped to two disorders together, an interaction with a person with BPD who was lovely really made me educate myself.

thank you, it’s gotten easier as I’ve gotten older but the best progress I’ve made is the last 4 months because I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD and the medication has totally ironed out my BPD mood issues.…I finally feel like I know what “normal” emotions feel like….if I’d been on this in my 20s my life could have been so different

 

[candyland_]

I’ve been following on here since day one and I’ve got to say I’ve been guilty to unsure, then on the fence then not guilty, jeez my brain is frazzled!!
I’d like to think she’s not guilty cos I really can’t get my head around someone doing something so abhorrent. I really do think the prosecution are going to pull something out of the bag to settle it once and for all but time will tell.
As an aside I’m also frazzled at the amount of people that use “of” instead of “have” is it really that hard to say she must “have” done it, rather than she must “of”?
Sorry to be grammar police but it really spoils my reading!! I’m sure there’s plenty on here feel my pain!!

Can you not randomly pop in and nitpick? People type quickly to quick up with the threads.

I know so many of us here agree that we shouldn’t go off her “stereotypical” looks, but doesn’t she look so much different in the pic on the left, than from the “sweet” nurse holding the baby gro up pics on the right not sure if this pic has already been on here before, so apologies if it has

I think it’s just the stress and weight loss to be honest. I’m sure we all look different when we need our hair colour done and nip out with no make up.

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

thank you, it’s gotten easier as I’ve gotten older but the best progress I’ve made is the last 4 months because I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD and the medication has totally ironed out my BPD mood issues.…I finally feel like I know what “normal” emotions feel like….if I’d been on this in my 20s my life could have been so different

Aw I'm sorry, I get moments of "what if too" but you have done really well to get the diagnoses you have and what matters is that you have improved your life now and you will get to live the rest of you life how you want to as a result

 

[Weeder]

I have a Narc mother, I see similarities. That's why her texts REALLY get my back up because I can see the attempted manipulation a mile off. Narcs can't hid it in one on one relationships, like when you live with them, but they function well enough in society in general. They also don't typically kill but cause emotional harm.
When Narcs age they tend to unravel, they struggle to handle the aging process. They are emotionally immature because it's like they never developed beyond childhood. Likely the development of NPD coincides with childhood trauma but not always.

I speak from what I have learnt from therapists, seminars (I am not a mental health professional but I went to online ones in an attempt to understand my mother) and from first had experience. I appreciate you may have a different view point on that but I wasn't agreeing with the suggestion of Narcissistic Personality Disorder lightly.

I hear you . I won't argue with anyone raised by a narc..I'll merely say I see you.

My narc did present well in front of others too. I'm just not seeing it here, maybe because I think she's just needy. Mind you, isn't there evidence regarding BPD developing in to NPD when raised with utter devotion and pedestalled???

Anyway..can we agree to disagree..??

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

Can you not randomly pop in and nitpick? People type quickly to quick up with the threads.


I think it’s just the stress and weight loss to be honest. I’m sure we all look different when we need our hair colour done and nip out with no make up.

Yeah, take a pic of me right now and I doubt ye would have much favourable to say about me!!! I don't think she "looks" evil but I still think she did it. She's not a person I would look twice at tbh.

I hear you . I won't argue with anyone raised by a narc..I'll merely say I see you.

My narc did present well in front of others too. I'm just not seeing it here, maybe because I think she's just needy. Mind you, isn't there evidence regarding BPD developing in to NPD when raised with utter devotion and pedestalled???

Anyway..can we agree to disagree..??

Yes, of course we can!! I only wanted to illustrate to you that I hadn't agreed to it flippantly as I know it gets thrown around a lot as a possible diagnosis without people really knowing what it is and I really didn't want you to think I had done that!
Regarding BPD turning into NPD, I had never heard of that. I will look into it.

 

[Weeder]

Yeah, take a pic of me right now and I doubt ye would have much favourable to say about me!!! I don't think she "looks" evil but I still think she did it. She's not a person I would look twice at tbh.


Yes of course we can!! I only wanted to illustrate to you that I hadn't agreed to it flippantly as I know it gets thrown around a lot as a possible diagnosis without people really knowing what it is and I really didn't want you to think I had done that!
Regarding BPD turning into NPD, I had never heard of that. I will look into it.

I don't think that, I think we've both experienced damaging narcs and have different ideas about it.
I want to address the BPD thing too. I don't want anyone here thinking I'm linking BPD with murder, I'm not. I take everyone as an individual , regardless of any diagnosis or lack of diagnosis. I'm neuro diverse myself and raised by a narc, I don't like absolutes, so I apologise if I've upset anyone,

 

[Wellthisisinteresting]

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

Oh sod off- not everyone has the same levels of education and that shouldn’t be a barrier to using a bloody gossip forum.

Get over yourself

Anyway fellas…as you were….

And some of us are typing on phones with broken screens!! Believe me when I say it takes enough effort for me to post without having to proof read and grammar check everything
Also, I don't care if anyone has typos or errors, I can read the post and get the meaning just fine, think we all can!

 

[Upintheair83]

One of my best friends has worked for over 20 odd years on a neo nates ward and she said all her colleagues are talking about this case. She said everyone seems to think she's guilty her included. What she couldn't get her head around was the amount of deaths that she was present for. She also mentioned something about the mottling of the skin?? I'm unsure what she meant. What made me sad is that she's worried jts going to make people fearful of nurses now and she's devastated how anyone can abuse their position of power like that. She said she thought everyone went into the profession to help people .
Also I don't think she looks like she's evil or not really! She just looks like your average Joe to me, and someone who's lost weight and been under a lot of stress.

 

[MmmB777]

One of my best friends has worked for over 20 odd years on a neo nates ward and she said all her colleagues are talking about this case. She said everyone seems to think she's guilty her included. What she couldn't get her head around was the amount of deaths that she was present for. She also mentioned something about the mottling of the skin?? I'm unsure what she meant. What made me sad is that she's worried jts going to make people fearful of nurses now and she's devastated how anyone can abuse their position of power like that. She said she thought everyone went into the profession to help people .
Also I don't think she looks like she's evil or not really! She just looks like your average Joe to me, and someone who's lost weight and been under a lot of stress.

Yes it’s totally insane how many deaths and crashes there were full stop and there she is. Then the fact they’re unusual and unexplained which she has now even put in writing herself.
Also to add about the weight loss.. just interesting.. Old Bevy A also lost incredible amount of weight waiting for trial.. anorexia I believe and all part of her factitious disorder in that once she no longer had patients for it to be ‘onto another’ it returned onto her. Interesting.

 

[friedeggontoast]

 

[OH.FFS]

Bloody hell this forum moves on fast. I looked yesterday and we were on #12 today I had to search to find and there’s over 20 pages for me to catch up on. I can’t, I have covid right now and I’m feeling really unwell.
So I’ll pick up right here.

 

[just_nicole]

Bloody hell this forum moves on fast. I looked yesterday and we were on #12 today I had to search to find and there’s over 20 pages for me to catch up on. I can’t, I have covid right now and I’m feeling really unwell.
So I’ll pick up right here.

Same, day 5 now and I still feel like absolute crap. Hope you feel better soon

 

[aalmaalm]

Sorry to derail just slightly, but I watched ‘The Good Nurse’ last night. It really is chilling.

 

[friedeggontoast]

Have you seen the advert for Catching The Killer Nurse on Netflix? It’s the documentary about how they caught the nurse from the good nurse

 

[Deeznutslol]

As an aside I’m also frazzled at the amount of people that use “of” instead of “have” is it really that hard to say she must “have” done it, rather than she must “of”?
Sorry to be grammar police but it really spoils my reading!! I’m sure there’s plenty on here feel my pain!!

Are you actually for real? Not everyone is a native speaker, LDs exist and not everyone has had access to a good education. What a petty thing to come on here and cry about.
If this is genuinely causing you to become ‘frazzled’ then you need help.

 

[absoluteshockingfarts]

Hello from Australia!

First post but been watching and reading here since the beginning

I have one question and one thing on my mind.

Had it ever been established why police were digging up her garden?

I know it’s been discussed a lot on here and there are varying opinions regarding her searching the parents on social media but what it reminds me of is notorious serial killers being known to hover around the crime scene to see all the chaos.

I am currently in the unsure basket and will most likely stay that way until we have heard a bit more presented

Love this forum and a glass (or bottle) of wine on a Friday night!

Regards,

H

 

[PatienceImpatient]

Lots of comments about her not ‘looking’ evil but what does evil ‘look’ like?

It doesn’t present in your physical appearance, the two are completely unrelated. There are so many examples of this.

I worry that the way she looks is the reason so many people think she’s NG. Because she looks innocent, she must be. I can only hope the jury see beyond her looks.

Also seeing a post above about BA not fitting the western beauty standards but in a way she did. Her hairstyle was so typical of that generation, she was white, she was ‘normal’ looking, just like LL

 

[StatusWoe]

I'm becoming quite concerned I might end up in court one day and become a tattle thread. Can someone at least get me a court artist that can be bribed?

I'd like to apologise in advance for what I'm about to post.

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''I did it on purpose because I'm not good enough to draw them'' - StatusWoe, 04/11/22