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I think you’re giving her far too much credit tbh. She’s evidently not that smart whether she’s guilty or not.
Not really, not if she was a band 6 nurse. Nursing is difficult, skilled work and she was a senior nurse. She's clearly smart enough to be a registered nurse and then to obtain a position in a higher band and maintain that role - there were no concerns prior to this about her knowledge or competence.
 
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I don’t want to sterotype but I can’t see them dancing the night away in Pacha while LL shakes her booty in her Peacocks sequin vest top
I know this is an extremely serious thread. But I’m pretty sure most on here know some light hearted stuff is ok too (and the reasons why it’s ok). This comment is one of the best things I’ve read on this thread, I cannot stop laughing at this, prob finding it way funnier than I should🤣🤣🤣 honestly I’m dead (no offence meant using the word dead). @raspberryjuice you win the funniest fella award tonight 🤣
 
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Usually they have a sheath on so once you've done with the needle it would be resheathed to avoid needle stick injury and so much paperwork no fella wants to sit and do it
It’s actually nursing practice to never resheath a needle to avoid needle stick injury
Always draw meds up with sharps box within reach , draw up meds and dispose of needle into the box without resheathing
 
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Not really, not if she was a band 6 nurse. Nursing is difficult, skilled work and she was a senior nurse. She's clearly smart enough to be a registered nurse and then to obtain a position in a higher band and maintain that role - there were no concerns prior to this about her knowledge or competence.
I’m not talking about her skills as a band 6 nurse. Whether guilty or not, do you think what she wrote on that post it note was a smart thing to do? Do you think taking home handover notes and not discarding them was a smart thing to do? Do you think her social skills that we are hearing from parents show intelligence? And ultimately, if she is a murderer, she got caught and is now on trial (not soon enough but sounds like the hospital turned a blind eye to concerns raised). So not that smart to get away with murder and never be caught.

You talk like intelligent people never slip up and make mistakes. Entirely possible she was smart enough to cover her tracks in some areas but then slip up in others like the Facebook questions.
 
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I’m not talking about her skills as a band 6 nurse. Whether guilty or not, do you think what she wrote on that post it note was a smart thing to do? Do you think taking home handover notes and not discarding them was a smart thing to do? Do you think her social skills that we are hearing from parents show intelligence? And ultimately, if she is a murderer, she got caught and is now on trial (not soon enough but sounds like the hospital turned a blind eye to concerns raised). So not that smart to get away with murder and never be caught.

You talk like intelligent people never slip up and make mistakes. Entirely possible she was smart enough to cover her tracks in some areas but then slip up in others like the Facebook questions.
The social skills from parents have already been disputed as being LL at all, so it shows nothing about how smart she is.
Taking handover notes home is something I've done loads of times and says nothing about how smart she is.
Also we don't know the context of mental state of writing the post it.

I think saying she isn't very smart is unfair when she's in a senior role in a skilled profession, she must have some intelligence. Saying she may have slipped up is different and yeah maybe she did if she's guilty.
 
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In defence of Ibiza as a holiday destination for non-clubbers, there are some beautiful parts of Ibiza that are no where near the club scene, and which are family holiday spots. It looks like they went beginning of June, which is not high season either, so it would have been quieter, while I don't know what area of Ibiza they stayed in, I really don't think it's all that weird that her parents went to Ibiza and that she went with them.
 
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Loving all the hilarious comments 🤣 but where does it say she went to Ibiza with her parents? I thought she went to Ibiza with a friend and Torquay (or somewhere like that) with her parents?
 
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In defence of Ibiza as a holiday destination for non-clubbers, there are some beautiful parts of Ibiza that are no where near the club scene, and which are family holiday spots. It looks like they went beginning of June, which is not high season either, so it would have been quieter, while I don't know what area of Ibiza they stayed in, I really don't think it's all that weird that her parents went to Ibiza and that she went with them.
My pensioner aunt and uncle take their grandkids all the time 😂 must be a family place, if they saw what my friends wear to ibiza they'd have to wash their eyes with holy water 😂
 
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I think you could put bits of anyone's life down on text and it would look weird.
 
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None of us know what she was actually like though do we, we just know curated information that has been fed through the media and the prosecution; a slanted snippet. I can see the relevance of debating whether there's bias as she's blonde, white and slim, but debating whether she was pretty and commenting on whether she dressed 'frumpy' or not and bringing her parents into it- what?
 
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The social skills from parents have already been disputed as being LL at all, so it shows nothing about how smart she is.
Taking handover notes home is something I've done loads of times and says nothing about how smart she is.
Also we don't know the context of mental state of writing the post it.

I think saying she isn't very smart is unfair when she's in a senior role in a skilled profession, she must have some intelligence. Saying she may have slipped up is different and yeah maybe she did if she's guilty.
I said you were giving her far too much credit for being smart because you are so insistent that she’s so smart she would have given a good cover up to the police about the Facebook searches and not just said she doesn’t remember. I then said she is evidently not that smart. It’s nothing to do with her professional skills and qualifications at all.

I stand by it wasn’t a smart thing to do to write ‘I killed them on purpose’ regardless of what her mental state was (but I don’t buy into that theory in the slightest, that you would write something like that if you were innocent no matter how distraught you were).

Anyway we are never going to agree, because I see how her behaviour might be suspicious if she’s guilty, and you only see innocent reasons for everything she does and don’t accept anything as suspicious, and our debates just become circular so I’m not going to say anymore on the matter.
 
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I think nurses in general can be a bit over anxious about symptoms in themselves and others, as they know where they might lead. That’s not to say their going to go full ‘muunchy’ though.
I think Dr’s have always had to deal with ‘hypochondriacs’ and ‘Dr botherers’, goes with the territory.
Just wanted to clarify something. There's no overlap between hypochondriacs and people with Munchausens/factitious disorder. The latter is an attention-seeking thing, whereas hypochondria (known as health anxiety) is a type of anxiety disorder. With health anxiety, sufferers feel extremely worried about their symptoms and look to doctors for reassurance. They genuinely believe they're ill so it's not a bid for attention. One condition doesn't lead to the other.

Hope this post doesn't come across as patronising if I'm stating things people already know. I'm just mentoning it in case people conflate the two disorders.
 
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In defence of Ibiza as a holiday destination for non-clubbers, there are some beautiful parts of Ibiza that are no where near the club scene, and which are family holiday spots. It looks like they went beginning of June, which is not high season either, so it would have been quieter, while I don't know what area of Ibiza they stayed in, I really don't think it's all that weird that her parents went to Ibiza and that she went with them.
I always had that opinion of Ibiza and never had any desire to go there until I saw someone post pictures of their holiday just this year and the area they were in was stunning. Now I want to go!

I don’t think it’s odd she went with her parents either. She might have had other holidays with friends and maybe her parents paid so why not go.
 
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I know loads of people refer to her as the “young, pretty nurse” but she dresses like my mum and her friends. Nobody my age or younger would wear the clothes she does. They look like Bon Marche specials.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who is horrified by her dress sense. There is no excuse for this abomination. I know she's trying to look inconspicuous but why did she have to pick the frumpiest hat in the world?! That would make me think "young girl, why you dressing like it's 1991"??
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I said you were giving her far too much credit for being smart because you are so insistent that she’s so smart she would have given a good cover up to the police about the Facebook searches and not just said she doesn’t remember. I then said she is evidently not that smart. It’s nothing to do with her professional skills and qualifications at all.

I stand by it wasn’t a smart thing to do to write ‘I killed them on purpose’ regardless of what her mental state was (but I don’t buy into that theory in the slightest, that you would write something like that if you were innocent no matter how distraught you were).

Anyway we are never going to agree, because I see how her behaviour might be suspicious if she’s guilty, and you only see innocent reasons for everything she does and don’t accept anything as suspicious, and our debates just become circular so I’m not going to say anymore on the matter.
I don't only see innocent reasons, I just share my perspective on those more because there's always so much about how guilty something makes her look. I've also shared plenty of times when the prosecution evidence is good and makes her look guilty 🤷‍♀️. I don't think she's innocent, I'm completely on the fence.
I'm not 'so insistent' that she's smart enough to give a better answer in the interview, because she obviously didn't give one. I just can't get my head around anyone, guilty or not, not being able to come up with a simple response and to me that could indicate a state of panic or distress.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is horrified by her dress sense. There is no excuse for this abomination. I know she's trying to look inconspicuous but why did she have to pick the frumpiest hat in the world?! That would make me think "young girl, why you dressing like it's 1991"??View attachment 1705863
Surely that's not a top that's been sold in about 20 years. I bet it took some digging in an charity shop bargin bin to find that thing 😂 she dresses like a 13yo who's been allowed to buy her own clothes for the first time. It's giving me MK One 😂
 
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I feel she enjoyed a browse in Matalan
Its the Pandora bracelet that iv seen photos of her wearing that did it for me (no offence to anyone who likes Pandora) it's just coupled with the sequined peacocks top and metal and browsing makes me crinnnggggeeee!
 
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Surely that's not a top that's been sold in about 20 years. I bet it took some digging in an charity shop bargin bin to find that thing 😂 she dresses like a 13yo who's been allowed to buy her own clothes for the first time. It's giving me MK One 😂
MK one 🤣🤣 I feel some serious effort must go into dressing that wrong! She reminds me of a colleague who used to only buy clothes in Jane Norman and came to her office job dressed like she was the 6th member of Steps!
 
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Had an early night and woke up, wondered what you fellas were discussing just to be met by god knows what.
Honest to God as I was scrolling through the pics of her on that article to find the one with the ring I could not get over these bloody awful pics! Look like she's trying to show what "mad craic" she is 🙄🙄. What an absolute melt!!
She is 100% a person I would avoid at all cost even without the murder accusations.
 
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