Liverpool Trophy Parade Attack #2

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Shouldn't be surprised that he's apparently likely to be given the cushy sentence of a secure hospital.

I don't believe PTDS had anything to do with his actions that day, it's disgusting to see someone like this treated with such a gently gently approach, not least because of how much time and money he wasted by changing his plea when he did.

Nothing can convince me he hasn't known what he was doing all along, from the moment he tailgated the ambulance on purpose to the plea change.

How are the people who work in the system able to justify themselves? They are heinous.

I wonder how on earth his victims feel at this news.
 
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Shouldn't be surprised that he's apparently likely to be given the cushy sentence of a secure hospital.

I don't believe PTDS had anything to do with his actions that day, it's disgusting to see someone like this treated with such a gently gently approach, not least because of how much time and money he wasted by changing his plea when he did.

Nothing can convince me he hasn't known what he was doing all along, from the moment he tailgated the ambulance on purpose to the plea change.

How are the people who work in the system able to justify themselves? They are heinous.

I wonder how on earth his victims feel at this news.
Quite a few of the papers talked about his 'service' and all said the same as what we already know...he bullshitted about how long he was there. His claims is it was four years and four months but in reality, from beginning to end, it was only just under two years with eight months of training included. It is of course possible to get PTSD in that time but from what they are saying, he saw nothing that would have caused it.

Apart from that, they and neighbours are still claiming he is a teetotal, church goer who meditates "He would go out on the grass outside in his bare feet to ground himself.' and would do anything for anybody. They are still going for the nice guy who had a lapse of judgement angle in the hope he will do as little time as possible which is bull. Hopefully the judge doesn't fall for it and gives him what he deserves.

 
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"Apart from that, they and neighbours are still claiming he is a teetotal, church goer who meditates "He would go out on the grass outside in his bare feet to ground himself."

Pure speculation on my part. But these three things taken altogether could point to someone controlling their anger issues.

Obviously, it might not at all, but given the fact he got so irate he drove into a large crowd of people, it possibly could.
 
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Especially seeing as they said this:

Doyle's lawyer announced they would not be advancing any psychiatric reports as part of his defence
The Daily Star is also claiming he will likely be moved to a secure hospital. The reason being, he was seen by psychiatrists who quickly decided he suffered from PTSD and seemed genuine. :rolleyes:

 
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Quite a few of the papers talked about his 'service' and all said the same as what we already know...he bullshitted about how long he was there. His claims is it was four years and four months but in reality, from beginning to end, it was only just under two years with eight months of training included. It is of course possible to get PTSD in that time but from what they are saying, he saw nothing that would have caused it.

Apart from that, they and neighbours are still claiming he is a teetotal, church goer who meditates "He would go out on the grass outside in his bare feet to ground himself.' and would do anything for anybody. They are still going for the nice guy who had a lapse of judgement angle in the hope he will do as little time as possible which is bull. Hopefully the judge doesn't fall for it and gives him what he deserves.

I've seen plenty of 'teetotal, nice neighbour, very quiet' men charged and convicted of domestic abuse, murder, manslaughter. It's just meaningless, lots of people have a persona they switch on in public. The aggravating factors in this offence are massive, its high culpability, high harm, so he's looking at a long term.
 
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The prisons are full of people with mental health difficulties! I know someone who committed a crime whilst having a psychotic episode. Despite the solicitor arranging a Psychiatric Report, it did not change the outcome. They served time in a regular prison with Healthcare doing their best to treat them.
 
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Where's the hospital order chat coming from? Seems unlikely.
Admittedly tablioids so I do hope they are wrong, I just wouldn't put it past the system because they like to protect criminals and seem to have open contempt for victims of them.

If people are truly mentally ill and can claim diminished responsibility then yes, secure units for them absolutely... but I've really doubted some of the cases that end up getting a nice hospital order over the years.
 
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Admittedly tablioids so I do hope they are wrong, I just wouldn't put it past the system because they like to protect criminals and seem to have open contempt for victims of them.

If people are truly mentally ill and can claim diminished responsibility then yes, secure units for them absolutely... but I've really doubted some of the cases that end up getting a nice hospital order over the years.
Diminished Responsibility is only considered as a defence in murder cases.
 
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Admittedly tablioids so I do hope they are wrong, I just wouldn't put it past the system because they like to protect criminals and seem to have open contempt for victims of them.

If people are truly mentally ill and can claim diminished responsibility then yes, secure units for them absolutely... but I've really doubted some of the cases that end up getting a nice hospital order over the years.
Hmm - surely prisons also need to consider staff and other prisoners and they also have a duty of care for the prisoner themself. Maybe this is why some prisoners end up secure units or hospitals etc - I know nothing, I'm just guessing.
 
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Sorry but he was giving “cosmic” to me when I heard about meditating. Then when I heard the rest about crypto, Farage, sketchy employment it’s sealed it for me. Although “international fitness competitions” I suppose he could be a sted head.
 
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Oh yes, she was banging on that no proper scouser would dress like him or something? I’ll have to go back and have a read, I forgot that, people are wild!!
Everyone knows that scousers only wear Montirex tracksuits with 110's.

I have seen on the daily mail comments that this is all a cover up by Two TIer Kier... Open your eyes ;) ;) ;)
 
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Sorry but he was giving “cosmic” to me when I heard about meditating. Then when I heard the rest about crypto, Farage, sketchy employment it’s sealed it for me. Although “international fitness competitions” I suppose he could be a sted head.
I wondered if it was roid rage, especially as they initially mentioned drug driving after his arrest but then dropped. Does his neck look massive to anyone else?
 
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I wondered if it was roid rage, especially as they initially mentioned drug driving after his arrest but then dropped. Does his neck look massive to anyone else?
Dude follows Tate and other roid heads so I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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Listening to The Trial podcast on this and the hoats say it's believed that the only reason he stopped driving (and didn't harm or kill more people) was because someone in the crowd jumped in his backseat and put the car into park.
Coming back to this to say the man who jumped into Paul's back seat and pulled the handbrake to stop the car saved lives.

But when the video circulated on social media people blamed the ones touching and opening his car door for aggravating him. They have more grace to this brute than the scared pedestrians.
 
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