We have two women who are ‘allowing’ themselves to be treated this way. Yet there is virtually no discussion on the 1000+ men who are happy to treat these two women in this way. I don’t mean this thread, I know it’s specific to Lily, just the general media focus, social media commentary and general public opinion seems to be solely about two women displaying extreme, degrading behaviour and not about 000s of men participating in the degrading of the two women displaying extreme behaviour. Does society just think men can’t help themselves but women should know and do better? it’s the fault of the women that men participate in this?