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BackupWinnie

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They would still argue with you, saying you were taking stuff out of context. :ROFLMAO:
That long ass post from that redditor, she literally says “this is where I think it’s extremely important that people watch for themselves.”

That’s what we’re doing too honey. I’m here typing out nearly every word she said in today’s vlog (had no plans tonight yikes haha) like I’ll respect their opinion but pot meet kettle.:unsure:
 
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VNDO

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New video and the subtly begging has resumed - she needs new jeans, she likes coloured jars for her plants but only has a transparent one, etc etc
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Someone bought her a pandora bracelet with one charm! Those are expensive!
 
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VibingintheGarden

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I think we are the gossip site mentioned but what is the snark page? Are they talking about the farms? Apparently our little page has pissed some people off and was posted to a Cindy snark page?

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Looks like we ruffled some feathers. Clearly they can't read or they are making stuff up. I wrote exactly what Cindy said. I didn't embellish or add thoughts. I wrote 95% of it verbatim, straight from her mouth, but I'm "taking it out of context" what she said. I did write that the tattoo was for her 40th birthday but they probably didn't want to read that far down and that doesn't wash away the fact that tattoos are frivolous and freaking expensive. If you are "shakily" able to pay your bills, why the hell would you spend 100's on a tattoo. I also love that they parrot Cindy's "I'm not taking a vacation or anything" line. Is this a Cindy sock account?

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Stay mad baby. :ROFLMAO:
 
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shooksimmer

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I watched the livestream and it felt like deflection the entre time. She acknowledges some of the stuff like the racism but she explains it in a way that was clearly different then what was in the actual video. She says they were making fun of themselves for not knowing the pronunciation but if you go back it clearly wasn't how it came off. She also doesn't acknowledge the way she was responding to people in the comments before deleting the video. I can understand why she's making the videos private but to hide it from others, and say its because she doesn't want her family involved in her personal life is such a copout bc she knew the risk of uploading those vlogs in the first place. She then claims that she didn't grift and that donation made only 10% of her income, and then says that is a lot bc most people in her position don't get any help from strangers online. I don't think she faked the situation with Andrew but her attitude in the videos clearly didn't seem grateful beyond getting stuff from her fans beforehand. The entire livestream felt like it was for her supporters who didn't see what she did wrong and hoping they take her word for hit since most of the evidence is now gone. Finally she mentioned that she read the reddit threads but stopped, and then later admitted that she read one thread about her today. She is such a pathological liar the entire time. She also said she wasn't reading comments but still thanked everyone for donations. The entire situation is just do unfortunate bc I can't even watch her sims content anymore knowing what kind of person she is.
 
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HoneySweet

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She doesn't deserve those dogs :( it angers me that she left them alone inside a fcking apt for 5 hours, for crying out loud Cindy that is serious abuse. Her pity me party is grating on me now.

Plus giving up the cat. I hate when people don't commit to an animal for their whole life. Saying the apartment wouldn't take more then two pets is a copout. I wouldn't go somewhere if I couldn't take my animals. Pets are not disposable, they are living things.
 
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HoneySweet

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I can't see an almost 40 year old woman behaving this way .It's not her so called mental issues either. She was capable enough to buy a car, move, get a nose piercing, open a po box, edit videos, post videos, delete comments she doesn't like. etc. She is very aware of what she is doing.

We are talking about an adult here, not some 12 year old girl who needs extra attention. It's pathetic that she expects strangers to fawn over her.

She's making fools of people and it says a lot about someone who would do that.
 
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BackupWinnie

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Cindy Livestream Recap #2
I tried to not repeat anything that was posted in the last recap. I also focused on important stuff instead of the mundane crap.

0:00 - 1:00:00
- Cindy is feeling good today. Within reason. You can only feel so good when your marriage ended less than a week ago.

- Cindy will never get a roommate. She can't live with other people.

- Carvana is still working on registration.

- Cindy is going to open a PO Box tomorrow and she is going to meet a new friend for coffee.

- Cindy does not have an Amazon Wishlist but might make one when she gets her PO Box.

- Cindy thinks mushrooms are therapeutic for her. Psychedelics changed her life.

- Cindy and her friend B are completely platonic life partners. B is married. Cindy isn't really friends with the wife. They just don't hang out together. Cindy doesn't care what people think about that. B is non-negotiable. If any guy she dates can't handle her being friends with B, we can't do it.

- Most of Cindy's income comes from her Life Plus Cindy channel and her Sims website. She has a bunch of various other small things she makes income from like other websites and she used to be a freelance writer and gets some residual income from that. Not very much. Still makes a bit off Sims channel.

- Will she stream on Twitch again? Twitch is more video game focused. Cindy is trying to build something non gaming on Youtube. It's a possibility. She isn't saying she'll never do the Sims again but it would be hard to play a game that is based around marriages and families when she is going what she is going through. She has to heal a little bit before she plays The Sims again. She does want to play it again.

- She wants to play both Paralives and Life By You and will play both of them on her Sims channel.

- There may be a vlog tomorrow. After stream she wants to film. If not Monday, then Tuesday.

- Her family does not live in the same county as her, but surrounding it.

- Her sister might be in the vlogs in the future. Cindy hasn't gone to see her yet. Sister is going through some shit right now.

- Cindy has not talked to Andrew today. She does not plan to talk to Andrew today.

- She misses Gibbons. Yesterday they got a very strongly worded text from the landlord because someone in their building has more than 2 pets. If you have any more pets than that, you can be evicted. They are serious! Cindy doesn't dare try to bring him here because she can't afford to lose her place. But she did find out that he is doing well in his home with his little kitty cat friends. She feels good about that but misses him. No apartments in her area allow 3 pets. He's happy, he's safe and he's good. Sometimes she has to do what she has to do in her life.

- Cindy wasn't ready to get help for her BPD the first time. She went to a therapist once and she wasn't ready. She knew something was wrong with her but you have to really want to change. She wasn't ready the first time. She thought she could handle it on her own. She thought she could figure it out on her own, treat herself and whatever the hell her fucked up mind thinks. She learned that that was not true. She could not do it herself. If you have BPD or any personality disorder, you can delude yourself into thinking you have it under control but you don't. You can completely recover from having BPD and she is going to recover. BPD usually gets better with age but Cindy's got worse, which was probably because of the relationship she was in.

- She isn't desperate to talk to Andrew anymore. She feels good about that. She feels like she is doing much better handling things like that. Much better at handling her emotions. She's learned so much new in therapy. She feels like she is so emotionally stunted, like an 18 year old just starting out.

- Cindy hopes she is helping people by sharing her story. Just because you have BPD doesn't mean you are monster or that you can not have a normal life. Also what it is truly like to end a 15 year marriage.

- She would tell her 20 year old self to get therapy now and if she saw Andrew to run the other way.

- Cindy told audience to stop spamming questions. Either she didn't see it or didn't want to answer it.

- Cindy doesn't know if she wants to have a baby on her own. She would use a surrogate but it is incredibly expensive. It's like $50,000 dollars and she could never afford that. Unless she found a really rich musician to be her next partner.

1:00:00 to 2:00:00

- Cindy would never ask her Sister to have a baby for her because she's already had six babies.

- Buying a house right now is out of the question. She is just going to continue renting. She doesn't want to maintain a house by herself so she is going to stay in this apartment until she dies. [laugh]

- She talked to Andrew yesterday, again. She is not interested in taking him back in her life. She can't see a way forward.

- Dating Cindy deal breakers, childfree, doesn't like to date guys with kids, she doesn't want all that drama. Finding one without kids is really difficult. She doesn't care about money. Wants some sort of stability in life and that they share common interests. Open mind toward music. Not be a lying cheating POS. If there were guys her age with grown children, she'd consider it. Cindy does not want to be a step mother, ex drama. But you never know.

- Cindy says "man this chat, Jesus Christ." She has so many supporters and loves them so much.

- Cindy knows that she is a terrible liar.

- Storytime of first marriage? Maybe she'll do it soon. Rollercoaster of pain and misery and disfunction.

- Has thought about doing a podcast but doesn't know what it would be about. Before this happened she was trying to get Andrew to do a podcast with her because he is witty and funny. Maybe B?

- Cindy's purpose is to get as much happiness out of her life before she dies. That's all she knows.

2:00:00 to 3:00:00

- Andrew and Cindy spent the night on their first date. She doesn't regret it but she won't do it again. It's going to take a long time to get to that point again.

- Everything in her life has a memory of him and she hates it. She won't keep his last name when they divorce. She's never changing it again, for anyone. Cindy will probably have to file for divorce because he won't do it.

- She is out of soap, hair rinse, dish soap and kitchen cleaner. She'll be making those things in a vlog in the coming days.

- She wants to buy some flowers for the house. She bought a new house plant.

- She has a Nintendo Switch and a Playstation and doesn't really play them.

- Doesn't want to talk about her diet. Go look it up for yourself.
Thanks for the recap! Was out for the holidays.

Lots of these points make it seem she’s aware of the Reddit subs and this website imo and what people think rn.
 
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BackupWinnie

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some people are so delusional. like it’s always the same with some people in the Sims community, it’s as if we should be so thankful for YTs and the EA/ Sims teams. like we should be dropping to our knees and thank the gods for content.
 
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tropicanaorange

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How does she go from bragging about how much money she makes online to saying she “should have enough to pay rent this month” as if she’s struggling
 
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mermaidish

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For sure. That video was filmed the same day Andrew left her, and she’s already reached out to “the one that got away”? 🤨 Hopefully she’ll come to realize that being on her own is actually a good thing right now.

I’m torn between thinking this was a pre-planned thing on his end or that he regretted getting back together and used the cheating as an out. If it was pre-planned, that’s seriously fucked up.
 
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mermaidish

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I'm curious, those of you who think it's a grift, do you think it started with the first "he left me" video? Do you think Andrew is in on it? Because if those were fake tears, then she deserves an Oscar. I honestly can't determine what is and isn't true anymore.
Same here. I’m skeptical about some stuff because capitalizing off of your hardships makes you seem insincere. And things like mentioning how she should be able to make rent, doing lives with no plans in mind, always having her buy me a coffee in her description seems a bit off.

I do think some people are reading way too far into stuff though. Like the whole thing about Andrew cooking but then her saying he wouldn’t know what to do with the kitchen stuff if she left it. People are treating it as a gotcha! moment, but I saw it as her just talking shit because she was upset. (Or thought that his cooking was like my ex’s, he only “cooked” frozen or pre-made food, even him making rice involved buying the stuff you microwave for a few minutes. But I digress)

I’m not buying everything she’s selling, but I don’t believe this is some elaborate scheme planned on their ends. My guess is that the truth is somewhere in between.
 
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VibingintheGarden

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I don’t think she’s actively grifting with the intent to but I don’t know but something is so off putting to me about the donations.
It's the sheer amount of it for me. Mentioning multiple times she has just barely enough money to pay her bills, that she spent all the money from the house paying off their debt, that she doesn't have a lot of clothes, saying that she left all her streaming equipment behind/microphone + webcam is crap, mentioning that she needs bookcases for her office but doubts anyone will send those to her, that she is going to get a PO Box just in time for her birthday, dropping that her birthday was coming and then people were asking her a bunch of questions about what she liked/wanted to send her stuff.

I don't know what else to think besides she's fishing for gifts and playing the sympathy card.

She always seemed to me to be chasing a "viral" channel. I started to notice a pattern, when she was playing Sims, she would start a "Let's play" but after a few episodes if it wasn't doing well in terms of views she would just quit it. I didn't watch her, my niece who stays with me every weekend would watch and she would be so disappointed when she would get interested in a story and then it just ended abruptly. Cindy's reason was "I got bored" or 'I don't like playing the sims anymore". This happened a number of times when videos weren't bringing in good numbers. My niece is 13, I had to have her not watch anymore of her sims vids because she constantly left people up in the air. For the young viewers that is so cruel because they get interested in a story and they look forward to it. I really hope that her younger viewers are not watching now

Then I noticed she was trying all kinds of things to get views and it all seems so staged and scripted. She's trying anything and everything. She carnivore diet, she's keto, she's a witch, she's on weight loss journey, all the while she is testing the waters to see what gets views. It's the reason she doesn't choose one subject to stay on. She's trying to find the one thing that people would relate to that make her VIRAL. It doesn't work like that.

I agree with others on here. It seems awful convenient that after all the donations she got she gets a car and they have money to move. She gets a piercing, she's wearing makeup and doing her hair differently. She's talking shit about Andrew but then she says he comes by to take the dogs out. Then she mentions that people can still send stuff to her po box!

Like the saying goes 'If it doesn't make sense it's usually not true"
I noticed that viral chasing too. Cindy is a very smart woman, she knows how Youtube works and how to make it work to her advantage. She made sure to capitalize on every trend she could think of; vlogmas, weight loss, infertility, cleaning, organization, tarot, spirituality and witchy stuff, plants, homemaking/being a tradwife, being an Ebay seller, trying keto/low carb recipes, exercise, self improvement and those are just the trends I noticed from a cursory glance at her thumbnails and titles. It would not surprise me if she saw the attention/money she got for her viral videos and decided she wanted to keep that, no matter what. Being desperate and impulsive is not a great combo. I'm not the only one to notice certain trends when her views dip. As sick as this sounds, people like spectacle and the bigger the spectacle, the more money and attention you get on Youtube. Not everyone wants to be authentic, some people just want money/attention and will do anything to get it.
 
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BackupWinnie

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New video is up…

She’s lost over 70 pounds in the past year or two so.

Wants to get arms, stomach, breast, thighs, and butt’s skin removed first in that order.

Says having loose skin is better than being fat (kind of problematic to say?!?).

Doesn’t know when she’ll get the surgery done because she’s alone and it’s easier to have someone to help you post-surgery.

She finished setting up journaling desk with a salt lamp and box of crystals and incense. Lots of random shit on desk. Living room has remained untouched.

She finished setting up herb cabinet withquartz crystal and baby’s ashes. Will have to divide up the ashes for Andrew. Has to unpack essential oils.

After that, its cuts to the next day. Will finish recap later.
 
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Lol yeah Cindy Clips is great! And yeah she wiped her channel and is quitting YouTube after her last members streams are over at the end of the month. It's weird she's not telling anyone but her members, but just goes to show she doesn't care about her non-paying viewers. (I'm sure she'll be back though)
 
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HoneySweet

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Does Andrew not have social media or anything?

He probably does but Andrew was always someone who wanted to stay off camera. In early videos he was always in the background, even bringing her a coffee or cold drink while she was streaming. The there was a quick glance of him on a video where she was taking a walk with him. I guess maybe her views went up some and from then on she kept featuring him even though he looked visibly uncomfortable to be on camera. That's why I can't wrap my head around her stories about him. he doesn't come across as a guy who thinks he is a ladies man. He always appeared quiet and soft spoken and not really engaging with the camera. SHE wanted him on film FOR VIEWS as she had never had him on film before until she realized his appearance made them go up.

That's her husband not a tv show PROP.
 
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BackupWinnie

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I wish her therapist would come across her channel and tell her that she should stop posting on the internet. I don’t know how she’s making progress in therapy when her viewers are enabling her impulsive behavior.

She said she’d never get a real job, and tbh why would she? Her subscribers will pay for everything.
In some ways, she’s become dependent on her subs both somewhat financially and also emotionally instead of Andrew.

Financially because of the donations and any revenue streams from YT channels and blogs and emotionally whenever she feels alone and sad, she turns on the livestream.
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I know she had a tough childhood and all but I don’t understand why she has not reached out to her family in any way by text or call in the past months.

I’ve had distant relationships with family but I think she needs to reconsider her priorities and be with people she knows instead of YT.
 
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BackupWinnie

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New video is up. I’m starting to think it’s all fake.

Lots of people on the Cindy snark sub have been speculating how terrible Andrew was cheating on her and wasting her years (and child bearing years) to find another man. In todays video, she’s just parroting what a lot of us have been saying.

It’s like every two weeks, it’s a new drama that happens to clickbait people back in.

In one scene, she receives flowers from Andrew and crying about it and then the next scene, she’s overjoyed that her newly bought jeans fit her and smiling and is happy.
 
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VibingintheGarden

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She made a lot of money of this livestream. She's no fool. She's always mentioning her shitty pc or her shitty webcam and it never seems genuine. To me, it feels like she says these things hoping that people will send her something better or some money.

Regarding the lies, for goodness sake, her family doesn't know she's a youtuber and still thinks she works as a health coder. She says it hasn't come up yet. What the hell? How do you not tell your family you've quit your job years ago?

I don't understand how Pleasant Sims is her main source of income when she hasn't uploaded in ages. Are there so many people watching those old videos? Her most recent video on that channel is 8 months old. She shouldn't be getting that much traffic.

Either way, she doesn't strike me as a genuine person. There's some facial expressions that definitely raise some red flags and, to me, it makes it seem like she's just playing people.
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Andrew also sent her an email during the stream, apparently.
The majority of her money comes from her Pleasant Sims blog, not her channel. While she was making Sims content she was obsessively writing blog posts about every little detail and thing you could do in The Sims 2. Then she moved onto Sims 3. Most of the fan sites for both games are dead or defunct so having up to date information, even if it isn't any different from other sites, means people are going to click on it and you are going to make a lot of money. That's why Kelsey Impicciche and Taylorsaurus have fan websites. It is much easier to make money that way, instead of on crowded Youtube.

"She doesn't strike me as a genuine person." I hate to say this, but when Amberlynn Reid said "Welcome to Gorl World" to her in her donation message, my immediate thought was takes one lolcow to know a lolcow. I don't really know what defines a lolcow but her behavior is matching up with the behavior the typical lolcows get called out for. That "if I get canceled" could be a projection of what she fears is going to happen to her. Her lies are going to catch up to her and her livestreams will out her because she can't edit what she says live.
 
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