LBC Chit Chat #20

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I can never quite make Jobby out; on the one hand there’s his faux modesty and oily affectation of humility, and on the other his dedication to mentioning his public-school education and university several times an hour to make himself seem better than the listeners. As an adopted person I wonder if he knows who his natural parents were or whether his ducked-up personality is bravado because he suspects he’s a pleb chav and can’t face it. It would be better if he wasn’t so average intellectually as well because then he might stop leaping with glee when he gets a caller he can rip to shreds.
He is really nasty demoralising and mocking callers who dare to challenge him. It's as if he's desperate to assert his superiority. He must feel vulnerable with the risk of his biological parents being racist thugs up for a riot.
 
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, nobody seriously condones the burning of homes or violence against innocent people. That has been said clearly and repeatedly. Peaceful mass non-compliance, sustained public anger expressed through votes, through civic pressure, through the kind of informed public argument that refuses to be silenced, would be far more effective and far more legitimate than disorder. That is the argument worth making.

What you deliberately fail to address is why we are here. This didn't happen because of social media. If anything social media has given a voice to millions who were ignored, dismissed and labelled by the very people supposed to be representing them. For thirty years the political and media class controlled the terms of the debate. They decided what could be said, who could say it and what label would be applied to anyone who said the wrong thing. Social media broke that monopoly. The anger you are now describing as dangerous was always there. It was simply not permitted a platform until now.

Britain was forged over a millennium. Out of invasion and resistance, reformation and revolution, industrial genius and imperial reach, two world wars and the stubborn refusal to be broken. The people who built that country, who dug its coal, staffed its factories, fought its wars and buried its dead, were never consulted about the transformation of their communities at a speed and scale that their own government now admits was too much, too quickly. When they objected they were called racist. When they persisted they were called far right. When they voted for parties that reflected their concern those parties were dismissed as extremist.

The working class communities now erupting with anger are not doing so because of a website. They are doing so because their concerns were ignored for thirty years by people like you, who had the platforms, the education and the proximity to power to raise these questions honestly and chose instead to brand those raising them as bigots. The road to perdition was not paved by the people of Belfast. It was paved by the political and media class that substituted mass migration for economic reform, celebrated the transformation as diversity, prosecuted those who questioned it as racists, and is now, as the consequences arrive, reaching for the same tired accusation one more time.

You are not describing a backward ideology. You are describing the consequence of your own class's choices. The difference is that the people in those streets have to live with those consequences. You do not.
 
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The knives are certainly out for LBC presenters, both past and present. Here's a piece that's too long to post here but the paragraph below gives you an idea of the journo's opinion of Jobby. You can read the whole article in https://thecritic.co.uk/the-book-of-job/

He is, put simply, a terrible bore; a mid-brow Jeremy Kyle with a knack for deploying abrasive sophistry to fillet his callers. How to be Right consists almost entirely of the transcripts of these exchanges, displayed on the page like taxidermied quarry. His guests are often addressed as “mate”, sometimes called names at odds with those in the book, and variously described as “profoundly mistaken,” “angry and fearful,” “tragicomic,” “a bit of a plank,” “gullible and at worst dangerous.” In more charitable moments: they are “not bad people”.
 
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The knives are certainly out for LBC presenters, both past and present. Here's a piece that's too long to post here but the paragraph below gives you an idea of the journo's opinion of Jobby. You can read the whole article in https://thecritic.co.uk/the-book-of-job/

He is, put simply, a terrible bore; a mid-brow Jeremy Kyle with a knack for deploying abrasive sophistry to fillet his callers. How to be Right consists almost entirely of the transcripts of these exchanges, displayed on the page like taxidermied quarry. His guests are often addressed as “mate”, sometimes called names at odds with those in the book, and variously described as “profoundly mistaken,” “angry and fearful,” “tragicomic,” “a bit of a plank,” “gullible and at worst dangerous.” In more charitable moments: they are “not bad people”.
I can't understand why some journos are so obsessed with slagging off Jobby. I'm sure he welcomes the attention which keeps him in the spotlight and publicises his tomes, albeit critically
 
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@MatthewStadlen
, nobody seriously condones the burning of homes or violence against innocent people. That has been said clearly and repeatedly. Peaceful mass non-compliance, sustained public anger expressed through votes, through civic pressure, through the kind of informed public argument that refuses to be silenced, would be far more effective and far more legitimate than disorder. That is the argument worth making.

What you deliberately fail to address is why we are here. This didn't happen because of social media. If anything social media has given a voice to millions who were ignored, dismissed and labelled by the very people supposed to be representing them. For thirty years the political and media class controlled the terms of the debate. They decided what could be said, who could say it and what label would be applied to anyone who said the wrong thing. Social media broke that monopoly. The anger you are now describing as dangerous was always there. It was simply not permitted a platform until now.

Britain was forged over a millennium. Out of invasion and resistance, reformation and revolution, industrial genius and imperial reach, two world wars and the stubborn refusal to be broken. The people who built that country, who dug its coal, staffed its factories, fought its wars and buried its dead, were never consulted about the transformation of their communities at a speed and scale that their own government now admits was too much, too quickly. When they objected they were called racist. When they persisted they were called far right. When they voted for parties that reflected their concern those parties were dismissed as extremist.

The working class communities now erupting with anger are not doing so because of a website. They are doing so because their concerns were ignored for thirty years by people like you, who had the platforms, the education and the proximity to power to raise these questions honestly and chose instead to brand those raising them as bigots. The road to perdition was not paved by the people of Belfast. It was paved by the political and media class that substituted mass migration for economic reform, celebrated the transformation as diversity, prosecuted those who questioned it as racists, and is now, as the consequences arrive, reaching for the same tired accusation one more time.

You are not describing a backward ideology. You are describing the consequence of your own class's choices. The difference is that the people in those streets have to live with those consequences. You do not.
That may be the case in England but the children - and most of them ARE children - rioting in Belfast right now would cause trouble over anything. They are the same ones who in a month's time will be back on the news because they've made offensive effigies on bonfires. They have been groomed by older men in the same old paramilitaries. The horrible violent attack on Monday night was just the excuse they needed, they do not care about the victim.

Sorry for the rant but I am from NI and I have had an absolute gutful this week of English political commentators and pundits spewing out utter rit about the situation when they do not have nearly enough knowledge about this place.
 
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With more UK defence ministers resigning and an apparent peace deal in the Middle East.

Are you ready for 3 hours on Ampleforth tomorrow?
 
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