Jobby is truly lacking in self-awareness. He appears not to realise that by devoting the first hour to ranting on about Farage using the murder of a young man as an excuse to spread racism, he himself is using it to demonstrate his hatred of Farage? Click off.
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The poor boy's father said that Henry's death shouldn't be used to spread hatred and division though. Yet Farage ignores this and sees his opportunity to incite the nation and further Reform's cause in Makerfield. I think it's a vile speech.
If the races were reversed, large parts of the UK would be on fire now. And Corbyn, Abbott, Jones, Butler, and various other c u next tuesdays would be agitating at the front of marches. "I can't breathe" would be everywhere.
Handcuffing an essentially dead kid because he might have done a racism is basically the UK in a nutshell. Those supposedly paid to protect us have lost their bleeping minds.
Handcuffing an essentially dead kid because he might have done a racism is basically the UK in a nutshell. Those supposedly paid to protect us have lost their bleeping minds.
Didn't hear it, but see from my x feed that O'Brien had the idiot Neil Basu on.
Ike Ijeh on X: "When gangster Chris Kaba was shot by a police marksman, Neil Basu called it a "watershed moment" & announced the "black community don't trust policing at all". But when Henry Nowak bleeds to death in police handcuffs, we mustn't talk about it because it's "divisive". Hypocrite." / X
Ike Ijeh on X: "When gangster Chris Kaba was shot by a police marksman, Neil Basu called it a "watershed moment" & announced the "black community don't trust policing at all". But when Henry Nowak bleeds to death in police handcuffs, we mustn't talk about it because it's "divisive". Hypocrite." / X
He's a bleep who will be full of glee at the fact he can politicise this. Him and coke goblin Yaxley‐Lennon. Positively engorged over it all that they can use this to incite more hatred.
It's all over the press and Farage is rightly getting a hammering. Unrest in Southampton tonight. Just what Henry's family wanted
Bravo Kemi Badenoch for calling him out for using this poor boy's death to blatantly pedal his racist bile.
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I'd imagine the people who went along were confused. We've had years of commentary about 'righteous anger' and legitimate protests / riots when scumbag criminals like Mark Duggan and Chris Kaba were shot, not to mention a national period of mourning over George bleeping Floyd, overdosing so it is logical they'd think the same rules apply when a white kid is murdered and then ignored by the Old Bill.
It's a long read but hits the bullseye
It’s not Farage who’s ‘stoking division’, Sir Keir. It’s Lefties like you
In the wake of Henry Nowak’s murder, the cynical playbook deployed by the PM and his ilk exposes them as blame-shifting hypocrites
If you want to know what sort of man Sir Keir Starmer is, consider these two clues. First, note how slow he was to make any public comment about the murder of Henry Nowak. And second, note how quick he was to condemn his political opponents for speaking up about it.
“Nigel Farage is completely wrong to use this to try and create division,” fumed the Prime Minister on Tuesday. Countless other politicians of the Left joined in, darkly warning the public about the dangers of “stoking division” among “our communities”, and denouncing “the far-Right” for “politicising a tragedy”.
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Do these words sound a touch familiar? They should. Because, in recent years, this is exactly the same script that politicians of the Left have taken to reciting immediately after every atrocity inflicted on the British people. They use it every time Islamists have carried out a terror attack, or serious crimes have been committed by supposed asylum seekers.
They also used it when Elon Musk helped revive demands for a national inquiry into the Pakistani rape gangs. And they used it after Axel Rudakubana slaughtered three little girls in Southport. After every horror of this kind, they automatically start lecturing us about “division” – and ordering us to reject anyone who seeks to “stoke”, “sow” or “create” it.
Frankly, however, I’m sick of hearing these people read from their nakedly cynical playbook. For one thing, it’s so hypocritical.
Put it like this. How did politicians of the Left respond to the Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests of 2020? Did they condemn those leading them for “stoking division” by “politicising a tragedy”? Quite the opposite. They all rushed to proclaim that they shared the protesters’ anger, and declared that the “tragedy” in question should prompt a radical transformation of our society.
Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner were quick to take the knee for George Floyd in 2020
Sir Sadiq Khan said the death of George Floyd “has rightly ignited fury and anguish not just in the USA, but around the world”. Sir Keir himself said it “must be a catalyst for change”.
Meanwhile, Shabana Mahmood – who, as Home Secretary, is currently telling protesters that “there can be no justification for hijacking this tragedy to stir up violence and disorder” – wrote an open letter in June 2020, in which she said: “Many constituents have been in touch with me regarding protests across the United States after the murder of George Floyd. I share their anger at this unspeakable outrage.”
Curiously, her letter didn’t mention any violence and disorder stirred up by BLM protesters. But she did condemn “the appalling scenes of police violence across the US” and “the divisive and appalling rhetoric from President Donald Trump”.
Even more nauseating than the Left’s hypocrisy, however, is their shameless blame-shifting. Because the truth is, it’s not Nigel Farage who has made our society so dangerously divided. It’s the Left itself.
For decades, our country has been relentlessly destabilised by rocketing immigration and multiculturalism. A development fuelled by the Left-wing conviction that just about everyone on the planet has an inalienable right to come and live in Britain, and that once they arrive, they don’t need to make any effort to follow our customs or even, it sometimes seems, our laws.
It’s because of this toxic Left-wing fixation – and the many harmless Tories who swallowed it – that Britain is now home to so many people who hate us and our culture. It’s why Islamists have been able to wield such influence over policing, grape gangs have been able to operate with near-impunity, and illegal immigrants are free to roam our streets.
This, therefore, is where the blame really lies for today’s seething divisions. And the Left’s response? To smear, or try to silence, anyone who dares point it out.
This, however, is not the only reason we should ignore politicians who hector us about “division”. There’s another. Which is that, in one sense at least, we actually need more division, not less.
Most British people, I tend to suspect, don’t much like being forced to live side-by-side with wannabe jihadis, or machete-wielding psychopaths, or alleged “refugees” who assault underage girls within days of hopping off the dinghy. And because of this, I do want a government that divides us. By which I mean a government that divides the peaceful from the violent, the innocent from the predatory, the good from the evil.
And the way to bring about this particular form of division is not just to put offenders in prison. Wherever possible, it’s to kick them immediately out of our country. Or, better yet, prevent them from entering it in the first place by taking rather firmer control of our borders.
Here, then, is the message we need Sir Keir and co to heed. Remove the people who wish us harm. Because if you don’t, we’ll remove you.
It’s not Farage who’s ‘stoking division’, Sir Keir. It’s Lefties like you
In the wake of Henry Nowak’s murder, the cynical playbook deployed by the PM and his ilk exposes them as blame-shifting hypocrites
If you want to know what sort of man Sir Keir Starmer is, consider these two clues. First, note how slow he was to make any public comment about the murder of Henry Nowak. And second, note how quick he was to condemn his political opponents for speaking up about it.
“Nigel Farage is completely wrong to use this to try and create division,” fumed the Prime Minister on Tuesday. Countless other politicians of the Left joined in, darkly warning the public about the dangers of “stoking division” among “our communities”, and denouncing “the far-Right” for “politicising a tragedy”.
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Do these words sound a touch familiar? They should. Because, in recent years, this is exactly the same script that politicians of the Left have taken to reciting immediately after every atrocity inflicted on the British people. They use it every time Islamists have carried out a terror attack, or serious crimes have been committed by supposed asylum seekers.
They also used it when Elon Musk helped revive demands for a national inquiry into the Pakistani rape gangs. And they used it after Axel Rudakubana slaughtered three little girls in Southport. After every horror of this kind, they automatically start lecturing us about “division” – and ordering us to reject anyone who seeks to “stoke”, “sow” or “create” it.
Frankly, however, I’m sick of hearing these people read from their nakedly cynical playbook. For one thing, it’s so hypocritical.
Put it like this. How did politicians of the Left respond to the Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests of 2020? Did they condemn those leading them for “stoking division” by “politicising a tragedy”? Quite the opposite. They all rushed to proclaim that they shared the protesters’ anger, and declared that the “tragedy” in question should prompt a radical transformation of our society.
Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner were quick to take the knee for George Floyd in 2020
Sir Sadiq Khan said the death of George Floyd “has rightly ignited fury and anguish not just in the USA, but around the world”. Sir Keir himself said it “must be a catalyst for change”.
Meanwhile, Shabana Mahmood – who, as Home Secretary, is currently telling protesters that “there can be no justification for hijacking this tragedy to stir up violence and disorder” – wrote an open letter in June 2020, in which she said: “Many constituents have been in touch with me regarding protests across the United States after the murder of George Floyd. I share their anger at this unspeakable outrage.”
Curiously, her letter didn’t mention any violence and disorder stirred up by BLM protesters. But she did condemn “the appalling scenes of police violence across the US” and “the divisive and appalling rhetoric from President Donald Trump”.
Even more nauseating than the Left’s hypocrisy, however, is their shameless blame-shifting. Because the truth is, it’s not Nigel Farage who has made our society so dangerously divided. It’s the Left itself.
For decades, our country has been relentlessly destabilised by rocketing immigration and multiculturalism. A development fuelled by the Left-wing conviction that just about everyone on the planet has an inalienable right to come and live in Britain, and that once they arrive, they don’t need to make any effort to follow our customs or even, it sometimes seems, our laws.
It’s because of this toxic Left-wing fixation – and the many harmless Tories who swallowed it – that Britain is now home to so many people who hate us and our culture. It’s why Islamists have been able to wield such influence over policing, grape gangs have been able to operate with near-impunity, and illegal immigrants are free to roam our streets.
This, therefore, is where the blame really lies for today’s seething divisions. And the Left’s response? To smear, or try to silence, anyone who dares point it out.
This, however, is not the only reason we should ignore politicians who hector us about “division”. There’s another. Which is that, in one sense at least, we actually need more division, not less.
Most British people, I tend to suspect, don’t much like being forced to live side-by-side with wannabe jihadis, or machete-wielding psychopaths, or alleged “refugees” who assault underage girls within days of hopping off the dinghy. And because of this, I do want a government that divides us. By which I mean a government that divides the peaceful from the violent, the innocent from the predatory, the good from the evil.
And the way to bring about this particular form of division is not just to put offenders in prison. Wherever possible, it’s to kick them immediately out of our country. Or, better yet, prevent them from entering it in the first place by taking rather firmer control of our borders.
Here, then, is the message we need Sir Keir and co to heed. Remove the people who wish us harm. Because if you don’t, we’ll remove you.
Credit to Michael Deacon, please. (Above post)
Absolutely Maggie
Anyone who tries to make this a story about Farage as a distraction from what is actually important here is either an easily led moron or a deliberately poisonous runt
Which does not mean Farage is not a runt, him acting the runt is just not important in this.
Another zinger courtesy of Tim Stanley
'Accusing Farage of rage baiting is like telling off a boy for playing with matches while, around you, the house burns down.'
'Accusing Farage of rage baiting is like telling off a boy for playing with matches while, around you, the house burns down.'
The thing is..your average thug will not be aware of the 4 types of rage. Nor will the general public. Rage is rage..Aggression not calculated reflection. Ignoring his parents' request not to politicise their son's death wasn't on the agenda.
All the leaders have politicised Henry's death of course. How terrible this is for bereaved parents who actually want their son's murder to bring about radical change and justice for their son without resorting to violence and civil unrest.
Brendan O'Neil
I see that the people who took the knee and tore down statues after a man was killed 4,000 miles away from Britain are now yelping ‘Don’t politicise Henry Nowak’s death’. The same leftists who poured onto the streets to rage over the death of George Floyd are barking at the rest of us not to rage over the death of young Henry.
‘Don’t stir up tensions’, says an activist class which in that heady summer of 2020 happily hurled missiles at British cops and danced like Taliban-lite loons on a monument to a slave trader they’d just toppled.
What a festival of cant we have endured since the conviction of Vickrum Digwa for his savage slaying of Nowak. It reached its peak on Tuesday during the eruption of working-class fury at Southampton Police Station. Angry men and women gathered to roar ‘I CAN’T BREATHE’ – Henry’s last words. How crass, said snooty leftists all over social media. But you did the same thing, lads. You marched to the US Embassy in London in May 2020 crying ‘I can’t breathe’, which were Floyd’s last words too.
There’s more than hypocrisy at play here. We are witnessing the drawing of a line between the well-informed, righteous fury of the middle classes and the apparently low-information rage of the lower orders. If you are from leafy London, have a university degree and use phrases like ‘structural racism’, you’re allowed to vent your fury. If you read a tabloid newspaper, have never darkened a university door and say ‘Nigel Farage is the dog’s b*llocks’, you are not. This is a campaign to pathologise working-class anger.
Fear of the masses is in the air. You can almost smell the establishment dread that the wrong sort of people are about to hit the streets – not graduate leftists in keffiyehs but gammon-hued blokes in white t-shirts. The front page of Wednesday’s Independent is a classic of this fretful genre. ‘Family’s plea for calm ignored’, wails the headline over a photo of the protest in Southampton. But the people in the pic are perfectly calm. It’s just rows of mournful folk carrying the England flag. Are you okay, Independent?
The Guardian, too, seems consumed by foreboding. It says there are ‘fears’ that ‘the populist right’ will ‘whip up racist resentment’. Demagoguery is always the chief dread of the bourgeois left, given their view of the little people as a coiled spring of bovine fury that might be unsprung at any minute. The Guardian blasts Farage for calling for ‘pure, cold rage’ in response to Nowak’s death. It’s a complaint that would carry more weight if the Guardian hadn’t published pieces in the wake of Floyd’s death saying ‘We need the rage that abolished slavery’.
So it’s okay to ‘rage’ over the tragic demise of a career criminal a whole ocean away but not over the horrendous death of a sweet kid right here in Britain? The theatrical gasping over Farage’s use of that r-word is absurd. Leftists love a ‘rage against Israel’ or a ‘rage against the Tories’ or, indeed, a ‘rage against the police’. Yet the minute Farage-supporting oiks propose a new ‘rage’ against Southampton’s sloppy cops, the left is dashing for the fainting couch. Their rage is noble, you see, while yours is scary.
The media angst over Farage’s ‘rage’ was superbly exposed by Zia Yusuf in his clash with Cathy Newman on Sky News. She badgered him about Reform’s stirring up of anger over Nowak’s death. But he’d done his homework. He reminded her she once wrote a column on the ‘fury’ of 2020. It’s fab, she wrote, to see ‘the fury over Floyd’s death’ being transported to ‘all four corners of the globe’. Got that? Fury over Floyd – good. Rage over Nowak – don’t even think about it.
Some are putting this down to the fact that Floyd was black, and thus sympathetic, while Nowak was white, and thus ‘privileged’. I think it’s more to do with the different social make-up of those who are ‘raging’. In 2020, it was primarily bourgeois leftists who broke out of lockdown to mourn Floyd. It became mandatory in polite society to join their orgy of performative virtue. ‘Silence is violence!’, they yelled at any sinful mortal who refused to bend the knee in the fashion of the liberal establishment.
Now it’s mostly working-class non-Londoners who are fuming about what was done to poor Henry. Some are even wrapped in the St George’s flag, and nothing is more alarming to our betters than a swarm of patriots. The elitism is rank. It feels as though some people are more unnerved by the growing rumble of working-class anger than they are by what happened to Henry. You can feel the wheels of the discussion turning, away from that horror in Southampton and towards the supposed horror of ordinary people saying: ‘We’ve had enough.’
Yes, there were weird scenes in Southampton on Tuesday night. A breakaway mob threw bins at police officers. I have no doubt that the decent mourners for Henry gathered at the police station would condemn such behaviour. And you know what? Their condemnation counts for a hell of a lot more than the hypocritical bluster of leftists who whooped when their mates threw bottles at cops after a man died in Minneapolis.
I see that the people who took the knee and tore down statues after a man was killed 4,000 miles away from Britain are now yelping ‘Don’t politicise Henry Nowak’s death’. The same leftists who poured onto the streets to rage over the death of George Floyd are barking at the rest of us not to rage over the death of young Henry.
‘Don’t stir up tensions’, says an activist class which in that heady summer of 2020 happily hurled missiles at British cops and danced like Taliban-lite loons on a monument to a slave trader they’d just toppled.
What a festival of cant we have endured since the conviction of Vickrum Digwa for his savage slaying of Nowak. It reached its peak on Tuesday during the eruption of working-class fury at Southampton Police Station. Angry men and women gathered to roar ‘I CAN’T BREATHE’ – Henry’s last words. How crass, said snooty leftists all over social media. But you did the same thing, lads. You marched to the US Embassy in London in May 2020 crying ‘I can’t breathe’, which were Floyd’s last words too.
There’s more than hypocrisy at play here. We are witnessing the drawing of a line between the well-informed, righteous fury of the middle classes and the apparently low-information rage of the lower orders. If you are from leafy London, have a university degree and use phrases like ‘structural racism’, you’re allowed to vent your fury. If you read a tabloid newspaper, have never darkened a university door and say ‘Nigel Farage is the dog’s b*llocks’, you are not. This is a campaign to pathologise working-class anger.
Fear of the masses is in the air. You can almost smell the establishment dread that the wrong sort of people are about to hit the streets – not graduate leftists in keffiyehs but gammon-hued blokes in white t-shirts. The front page of Wednesday’s Independent is a classic of this fretful genre. ‘Family’s plea for calm ignored’, wails the headline over a photo of the protest in Southampton. But the people in the pic are perfectly calm. It’s just rows of mournful folk carrying the England flag. Are you okay, Independent?
The Guardian, too, seems consumed by foreboding. It says there are ‘fears’ that ‘the populist right’ will ‘whip up racist resentment’. Demagoguery is always the chief dread of the bourgeois left, given their view of the little people as a coiled spring of bovine fury that might be unsprung at any minute. The Guardian blasts Farage for calling for ‘pure, cold rage’ in response to Nowak’s death. It’s a complaint that would carry more weight if the Guardian hadn’t published pieces in the wake of Floyd’s death saying ‘We need the rage that abolished slavery’.
So it’s okay to ‘rage’ over the tragic demise of a career criminal a whole ocean away but not over the horrendous death of a sweet kid right here in Britain? The theatrical gasping over Farage’s use of that r-word is absurd. Leftists love a ‘rage against Israel’ or a ‘rage against the Tories’ or, indeed, a ‘rage against the police’. Yet the minute Farage-supporting oiks propose a new ‘rage’ against Southampton’s sloppy cops, the left is dashing for the fainting couch. Their rage is noble, you see, while yours is scary.
The media angst over Farage’s ‘rage’ was superbly exposed by Zia Yusuf in his clash with Cathy Newman on Sky News. She badgered him about Reform’s stirring up of anger over Nowak’s death. But he’d done his homework. He reminded her she once wrote a column on the ‘fury’ of 2020. It’s fab, she wrote, to see ‘the fury over Floyd’s death’ being transported to ‘all four corners of the globe’. Got that? Fury over Floyd – good. Rage over Nowak – don’t even think about it.
Some are putting this down to the fact that Floyd was black, and thus sympathetic, while Nowak was white, and thus ‘privileged’. I think it’s more to do with the different social make-up of those who are ‘raging’. In 2020, it was primarily bourgeois leftists who broke out of lockdown to mourn Floyd. It became mandatory in polite society to join their orgy of performative virtue. ‘Silence is violence!’, they yelled at any sinful mortal who refused to bend the knee in the fashion of the liberal establishment.
Now it’s mostly working-class non-Londoners who are fuming about what was done to poor Henry. Some are even wrapped in the St George’s flag, and nothing is more alarming to our betters than a swarm of patriots. The elitism is rank. It feels as though some people are more unnerved by the growing rumble of working-class anger than they are by what happened to Henry. You can feel the wheels of the discussion turning, away from that horror in Southampton and towards the supposed horror of ordinary people saying: ‘We’ve had enough.’
Yes, there were weird scenes in Southampton on Tuesday night. A breakaway mob threw bins at police officers. I have no doubt that the decent mourners for Henry gathered at the police station would condemn such behaviour. And you know what? Their condemnation counts for a hell of a lot more than the hypocritical bluster of leftists who whooped when their mates threw bottles at cops after a man died in Minneapolis.
I like Steve but I won't be joining the chit chat club
Says it's free to join, next page it's £6.99 a month
I'll be giving it a swerve too
Usually if you have a gold package you would think there's a choice
not a very professional website organiser.
@thewittowoo Thanks for posting that. It hits hard with the truth. Sadly so many are now blind to it.
So will I. I'm not paying to listen to him. Maybe they need to get some advertising.
I wouldn't listen even if it was free. Somebody's using Steve to make money.
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