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it changes you completelyWhere does that end though - delete the one before, because that's similar, or the one before that?HeCannitSeeMan said:
I don't think there's a straightforward solution.
I think locking the previous thread early was the right thing, but removing it entirely is censoring.
This thread is obviously going to be a difficult one to tread, but that's okay. People will find their way.
The only thing I would respectfully suggest to everyone, PARTICULARLY new posters, is lay off the 'you said bad things therefore you're horrible' approach.
This was never a fan page.
Many regulars were extremely concerned about health issues (lauren, her daughter and the new pregnancy). This has been posted about constantly for ages.
Nobody knew what was about to happen.
Just my opinion obviously.
Genuinely not trying to mod or police, just making suggestions.
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Ah. I seem to have misinterpreted the tone of the thread.
Feel free to delete if my post isn't appropriate.
reCAPTCHA
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I find it an odd notion that one is somehow not allowed to feel empathy for someone they dislike, when they suffer a tragedy in their lives.
You can think someone is a twat but also feel dreadful about something that they endure that is outside of their control. They’re not mutually exclusive and the lack of nuance irritates me.
Poor Lauren, and her partner. A painful and heartbreaking loss.
You can think someone is a twat but also feel dreadful about something that they endure that is outside of their control. They’re not mutually exclusive and the lack of nuance irritates me.
Poor Lauren, and her partner. A painful and heartbreaking loss.
Clickbait
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With respect they have had many months to consider how they would afford to bring up their children, and have time off after their birth. Sadly this is not the time off that they expected, but it is time off nonetheless at the end of her pregnancy so the timescale was planned albeit not the outcome.
Lauren hasn’t been working for months because of being pregnant aside from her photoshoots and set-up pap shots. Chaz has been doing OF and gay porn for many months - since before he was even with Lauren. If he could make a full-time income from it I believe he would. Clearly his other temporary jobs on building sites are to supplement his income rather than replace the OF work as they are not consistent.
They live in a nice rented bungalow, drive a high-end lease car, eat out at restaurants at least once a week, get many takeaways, go on shopping sprees etc. All of this is documented. That is the lifestyle they have chosen to lead and one must imagine they can afford to do so.
I think setting up a GoFundMe for this purpose would be in pretty poor taste given their documented lifestyle.
GalaxyGirl70
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My second baby was stillborn, and I will never forget that gut wrenching pain. You just want to scream and never stop. Those first few weeks are just horrific, and instead of receiving cards/gifts/visitors, you're talking to undertakers and getting sympathy cards. It goes against every grain.
I'm so desperately sorry for them and hope they've got a lot of support around them.
I'm so desperately sorry for them and hope they've got a lot of support around them.
Go back to page one of this thread and read.
Then read the room.
Then read the mod post.
Then read what you just wrote.
Then please leave.
Mods, should posts like this be reported so the thread doesn't become filled with it? Or does that cause too much work? Obviously I've reported the current outbreak.
smellyfootballboots
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This is a bit daft. While I can be hugely compassionate towards the loss of her baby, and I genuinely am. Lauren, released those photos herself and has done over and over again, the carpark pap walks, the illiterate posts, the alien face photoshopping; they were and remain ridiculous. No one is mocking her current situation but to say we were wrong to have a chuckle at her behaviour is pointless virtue signalling, I won't partake in. I have no doubt whatsoever that Lauren will return to being BYG in time, because it's who she is.I won’t lie I felt a bit sheepish for the way I slated Lauren for the photoshopped pictures but I feel so sorry for her. To lose a child is unimaginable to those who haven’t and unbearable to those going through it. RIP Lorena
Take a look at Saffiya (Or whatever her name is)- mum of the little girl who passed away last year. She was a total nobody and wannabe before she her baby was sick, and she has gone on to being a flipping terrible influencer who called someone a sp*z at the Pride of Briton Awards. Free holidays, free designer clothes, free car, loads of ads - she remains a ghastly wannabe.
My point being just because there has been a terrible tragedy, doesn't suddenly make that person a saint.
Shazzyshizzle
Chatty Member
Recap
Lauren & Charlie’s baby - Lorena Drury passed away, Rest in peace. Our thoughts and prayers are with you both at this heartbreaking time.
Lauren & Charlie’s baby - Lorena Drury passed away, Rest in peace. Our thoughts and prayers are with you both at this heartbreaking time.
Unfortunately it happens. I was the same. Nothing detected. Seemingly no issue through labour. My baby girl was born not crying but alive. They performed CPR on her and then transferred to a cooling bed to prevent brain damage. Horrifically she had suffered grade 3 brain damage the most extreme from oxygen starvation and we turned off her life support as no more could be done.
investigations seemingly revealed no reason and it was called an unexpected tragedy with no cause. And that makes it all the more harder to live with
WallacesDog
Active member
I lurk more than I post on here.
It goes without saying that the loss of a child is probably the worst pain imaginable; a child losing its parents is termed an orphan whilst a partner losing their spouse, a widow/er.
Yet there is no term in the English language for a parent losing their child, and I've often wondered if this is because words are simply insufficient.
It cuts you to your bones and on a soul level.
No one deserves such loss.
But it happens.
In all walks of life and to all kinds of people.
It is not mutually exclusive that you cannot feel empathy and sympathy for the person suffering such loss whilst also disagreeing with the choices they have made and personality they have displayed regularly on social media up until this point.
Those calling this hypocrisy are incorrect.
Those calling for previous posts to be deleted are similarly incorrect.
Well done on the Tattle mods for respectfully managing this unexpected life event, minus censorship, and allowing those that wish to express their shock/condolences etc a place to do so.
It goes without saying that the loss of a child is probably the worst pain imaginable; a child losing its parents is termed an orphan whilst a partner losing their spouse, a widow/er.
Yet there is no term in the English language for a parent losing their child, and I've often wondered if this is because words are simply insufficient.
It cuts you to your bones and on a soul level.
No one deserves such loss.
But it happens.
In all walks of life and to all kinds of people.
It is not mutually exclusive that you cannot feel empathy and sympathy for the person suffering such loss whilst also disagreeing with the choices they have made and personality they have displayed regularly on social media up until this point.
Those calling this hypocrisy are incorrect.
Those calling for previous posts to be deleted are similarly incorrect.
Well done on the Tattle mods for respectfully managing this unexpected life event, minus censorship, and allowing those that wish to express their shock/condolences etc a place to do so.
SoupDragon31
Active member
God. I’ve just seen. I actually couldn’t hold my tears in for her, I can’t even begin to imagine her pain. As a mother myself, I am so fucking beyond sorry for her loss.
MrAllSeeingEye
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Nobody, no matter how we feel about them, should have to go through what Lauren has gone through. So tragic.
Anna666
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Some new lurkers placing blame on us regulars ... is BS to be honest ..... NOT ONE PERSON on here ever wished this on her EVER .... she is in the public eye, her choice, and she has more than once deserved the criticism before this tragedy ... WE ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR THIS ..... as mentioned I have suffered the loss of a child .. and 26yrs later, I still grieve for him, makes it harder the coroner found nothing to explain his death, he was born alive healthy size, 46mins after birth I was still knocked out from the anaesthetic, so never got to see him alive, he developed breathing issues which shocked the medics, it happened so fast, and was completely unexpected ... they did their best I was told but he eventually suffocated .... he died .. and thats it .. not having answers or a reason WHY makes it even harder ... I went on to have two more children, but my precious little angel is never far from my thoughts ... I will never forget my aching empty arms leaving the hospital without him ... It really fucks you up, in every way ... it also rips your heart apart .... that empty void remains .. you NEVER accept it, or come to terms, you learn to live with the pain inside, my heart still aches for him during my lowest moments .... so I respectfully say to those placing blame, that we are somehow responsible ... Do FUCK OFF you have no fucking idea .... No decent person would wish this on anyone and finally to those expecting a child, please know what happened to me was called rare, a one in a million the coroner told me, so please enjoy your pregnancyI don't really know what to say. Us original scrunchies would never wish any harm on Lauren or her child. I feel so sorry for her and Charlie
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This is a horrible vile comment, you are assuming because of her weight or IF she had a home birth caused this. Could you not hold off commenting on a public forum things like this when we don’t know the full story. Losing a child is the worst thing anyone will ever go through but no mum should ever blame herself or have blame pointed at her.
I agree, shaming people for views they had before this tragedy is not appropriate.
No one here would have wanted this outcome. If they had of done they'd be banned from tattle in seconds.
It's tricky but I don't think the answer is to delete the last thread or the last 10 threads or the last 63 threads.
lamaitresse
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Unfortunately, life isn't like that and you'd need to have very shallow emotional bandwidth not to understand that you CAN say horrible things about people who irritate you or live in a not respectable way - yet life CAN throw a tragic event at that person and you can feel sorry and extend kindness to the one you're not keen on.
If you don't realise that this is one of life's contradictions - and human beings are complex, I don't know what else to say to you.
Everyone has done this at some point in their lives.
MrsGripperStebson
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I wanted to do something practical so made a donation to SANDS. It won’t do anything to bring Lorena back but hopefully it might save another little one and heartbreak for another family. Not expecting a round of applause but just putting the idea out there for other scrunchies …..
Clickbait
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I don’t regret a single post I’ve made in these threads. I don’t believe in taking a revisionist approach to the past, or as others have said that a terrible tragedy wipes clean the slate of what went before/how someone has chosen to behave.
As has been said many times recently, no regular poster would have wanted this to happen. We are all shocked and saddened. You can feel sympathy and empathy for someone and their situation without liking them as a person.
I posted before the sad event that it is not helpful to take things out of context and use them to slate people about. For example, ‘floppy face, floppy fanny’ was the mantra of Lauren’s doula and she herself shared it on IG. Someone whose post has been removed now was trying to claim this was an insult directed towards her: it was a joke, we made many of them, as do many other posters in many other threads about many other public figures.
I wonder if there may be some newcomers who’d like to start a Lauren Goodger thread in the rave section? That would mean they could bypass anything they feel is controversial or unnecessary in this one.
For others asking questions about terminology used, you can check out the Wiki at the top of the page. This is best avoided if you are sensitive to any criticism towards Lauren, or silly jokes made by the Scrunchies.
As has been said many times recently, no regular poster would have wanted this to happen. We are all shocked and saddened. You can feel sympathy and empathy for someone and their situation without liking them as a person.
I posted before the sad event that it is not helpful to take things out of context and use them to slate people about. For example, ‘floppy face, floppy fanny’ was the mantra of Lauren’s doula and she herself shared it on IG. Someone whose post has been removed now was trying to claim this was an insult directed towards her: it was a joke, we made many of them, as do many other posters in many other threads about many other public figures.
I wonder if there may be some newcomers who’d like to start a Lauren Goodger thread in the rave section? That would mean they could bypass anything they feel is controversial or unnecessary in this one.
For others asking questions about terminology used, you can check out the Wiki at the top of the page. This is best avoided if you are sensitive to any criticism towards Lauren, or silly jokes made by the Scrunchies.
Eureka
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I’m bowing out to watch some sport. Those of you with personal experience of this, please be kind to yourselves, I’m sure this news has been very hard on a whole host of levels.
To the new members using Lauren and Charlie’s tragedy to point score and gloat, seriously give your head a wobble. A little girl has died, try and remember that.
To the new members using Lauren and Charlie’s tragedy to point score and gloat, seriously give your head a wobble. A little girl has died, try and remember that.