Dang, what am I going to do today, lol! Guess I will actually have to focus on something else. Wonder what is up??No court today!!
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Rumours court will be on zoom at 11am EST but nothing confirmed
Per Ted Daniel
It appears the cancellation of today’s testimony was a game time decision.
Prosecution team is here and several ppl in the courthouse told me they just learned as well.
It appears the cancellation of today’s testimony was a game time decision.
Prosecution team is here and several ppl in the courthouse told me they just learned as well.
I also see a rumor floating around that Karen is ill.
Now all the conspiracy about she’s faking sick because John’s niece was due to testify today - if that was the case surely she would have called out sick for it last trial too 
Yeah exactly, you can criticise her for a lot but she has a chronic illness, and if I remember correctly from Proctor's cross last trial bowel issues, that probably flare up with stress. Think of all the court proceedings and trial days she's had over the last few years and this is her first sick day
Does she have Crohn's and MS?
And, I dread having to go through all the Aruba evidence again (not sure if the motion has gone through or been denied). People were making a big deal out of Karen wanting a room to herself so she could have bathroom access/privacy when she needed it.
This WHOLE thing is just a cluster*** of a trial.
And, I dread having to go through all the Aruba evidence again (not sure if the motion has gone through or been denied). People were making a big deal out of Karen wanting a room to herself so she could have bathroom access/privacy when she needed it.
This WHOLE thing is just a cluster*** of a trial.
Kids evidence and Ring evidence was scheduled today I think, specifically the deleted videos from Johns residence.Now all the conspiracy about she’s faking sick because John’s niece was due to testify today - if that was the case surely she would have called out sick for it last trial too
Well, Lawyer You Know and Emily D. Baker both think the Aruba evidence will come in.
We know they had a volatile relationship, we know all these people liked to drink, just show me how he was killed. I'd be so frustrated as a juror.
We know they had a volatile relationship, we know all these people liked to drink, just show me how he was killed. I'd be so frustrated as a juror.
True - KR said in the Netflix documentary that they all used to 'drink and drive' without a care.
I reckon they were having a row, she tipped him out of the car outside the house and drove off, backed up fast because she'd come up with a parting shot and, purely by accident, 'clipped him' (her words not mine) causing him to fall backwards and hit his head. If you remember, Natasha Richardson fell skiing and banged her head, one fall, one knock and she died, sadly it can happen.
I'm sure about this. She was telling the first responders she's hit him, and when she and Jennifer McCabe went back to find him she said 'he was exactly where I expected him to be' (again, her words not mine). I'm very sorry for her, I don't believe for a moment she tried to kill him, it was a terrible accident and she should have faced up to it, but she was drunk and muddle headed and only put two and two together as the situation unfolded. Her failure was that having 'clipped him' she didn't go back to see if he was OK because at that point he could well have been saved.
I also don't think Brian Higgins had anything to do with it. In those text messages all I heard was her giving him the come-on and him being cautious and guarded in case she was taking the piss, and him not really believing that she fancied him.
What fascinates me is the arm wounds and the only suggestion I can come up with is that Chloe was put out for a poo, found John on the lawn and attempted to drag him by the arm. Problem with that is the complete lack of Chloe's DNA or hair on John's clothes. Was there any debris on the ground which could have caused those deep scratches?
He was laying on his phone, as can be told by the phone battery temperature records, was he laying on his arm or was it out to the side? Could the snow plough have caused him any hurt (in addition to scattering bits of tail light)? If the snow was so deep it needed ploughing I think it's extremely likely that the body would have been hidden and only looked like banked up snow at that point so I'm not surprised the driver didn't see him.
I'm sure about this. She was telling the first responders she's hit him, and when she and Jennifer McCabe went back to find him she said 'he was exactly where I expected him to be' (again, her words not mine). I'm very sorry for her, I don't believe for a moment she tried to kill him, it was a terrible accident and she should have faced up to it, but she was drunk and muddle headed and only put two and two together as the situation unfolded. Her failure was that having 'clipped him' she didn't go back to see if he was OK because at that point he could well have been saved.
I also don't think Brian Higgins had anything to do with it. In those text messages all I heard was her giving him the come-on and him being cautious and guarded in case she was taking the piss, and him not really believing that she fancied him.
What fascinates me is the arm wounds and the only suggestion I can come up with is that Chloe was put out for a poo, found John on the lawn and attempted to drag him by the arm. Problem with that is the complete lack of Chloe's DNA or hair on John's clothes. Was there any debris on the ground which could have caused those deep scratches?
He was laying on his phone, as can be told by the phone battery temperature records, was he laying on his arm or was it out to the side? Could the snow plough have caused him any hurt (in addition to scattering bits of tail light)? If the snow was so deep it needed ploughing I think it's extremely likely that the body would have been hidden and only looked like banked up snow at that point so I'm not surprised the driver didn't see him.
But surely if she 'clipped' him then he wouldn't have all the injuries he had, the scratches on his arm, the swollen eyes. Did the car clip him in the face because he has no injuries from the neck down (besides the arm), not even a bruise.
In my opinion he was bet up in the house and his body dumped on the lawn.
Not quite re: Natasha. She had quite a long period of lucidity after her fall and was ok for a few hours afterwards. ETA - a lucid interval
The swollen eyes are explainable: One of the medical witnesses said the swollen eye, first one, and later the second one as well, was because after death from a bang on the back of the head blood seeps into the tissues around the eyes causing them to swell alarmingly.
Similarly, if you acknowledge that he had no injuries from the neck down, how could he have been beaten up without a single punch landing on his body from the neck down, no bruises? Wouldn't he have had some sort of evidence of a fight remaining on his hands like raw or bruised knuckles, damaged finger nails etc, or did he just stand motionless while his head alone was beaten until he died? Did all the other people there that night just stand/sit there when the body was dragged/carried out of the house and dumped on the front lawn? Wouldn't seeing or hearing someone killed in a fight leave at least one or two of the visitors in shock and distressed and probably in need of victim support? PTSD?
It was Karen Read herself who said she clipped him.. It was Karen Read who knew she'd find him him by the flagpole.
If I remember right, John had a cut around one eye which could've resulted from a punch (similar to injuries boxers get) .....but, I have another theory. I think he tripped and fell backwards, hitting his head on the fire hydrant......but, that doesn't explain the scratches on his right arm and no other bruising whatsoever. I seem to remember him having vomit in his underwear. That could've happened if they carried him out of the house ....I'll use this photo as an example
Meant to add, even if Karen hit him, there's enough doubt with this bungled case. The police didn't look for another culprit which is their downfall
She is there. They went to sidebar right as they went on the record. John's niece and nephew may be testifying today which will not be on camera.
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