Jeffrey Epstein

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He doesn't even say he or she.....

But I'm guessing it wasn't Liz, Theresa or Margaret..... but then again, nothing surprises me nowadays....
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Robert Maxwell was a Labour MP and supporter and with Mandelson’s involvement I get the feeling it’s a Labour PM. Rishi is too young, I can’t really see it being Cameron because he’s never really been connected to sexual sleaze that didn’t involve pigs and seemed very uninterested in American high society. The way Mandelson and Epstein discussed Brown really rules him out. John Major was too intelligent about his cheating and knew how to do it in a way which kept it very secret and secure, I can’t see him being rash enough to have a threesome with two dodgy figures. That leaves Blair and Johnson. Johnson is a manwhore but didn’t seem to move in those circles.

Remembering Blair and the Wendy Deng scandal, it just feels more like his type of thing, plus he was closely linked to Mandelson and Labour, who Maxwell and Epstein seem to have been more closely linked to.

I reckon it was Blair.
 
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Was it not very one sided - regarding Wendy Deng?
I thought she was obsessed with Blair, and he was basically trying to bat her off, so to speak.
Murdoch was pissed off, with Wendy’s Blair obsession, but I can’t see any wrong doing on Blair’s side?

Wendy has form, for being bonkers. I read, a few years back that she was trying to set up private meetings with Blair, with him being annoyed by it - as she was giving the impression that is was Murdoch he would be meeting.
it was very weird, I remember that.

I’m no fan of Blair, but I don’t see him as being a sex nut, or having his head turned by anyone, in that way.

I actually don’t think any former UK Prime Minister has had a threesome with that vile pair. Not that I would clear any of them from any possible wrongdoing. I just don’t think it happened.
It would have been fantastic for Epstein. He probably got as much of a buzz from blackmailing people, as he did from trafficking young women and girls.
 
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Maxwell due to be appearing before a committee today, expectations are not especially high

 

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When are more perpetrators going to be named? So far, all we have is all this depravity was arranged and participated in by Jeffrey, Ghislaine, Mandelson and the artist formerly known as Prince Andrew....is that it?
Also, as much as I'm not a fan, like others here, I just can't imagine Blair getting involved.
 
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As well as the other island, it seems they didn’t search his ranch either.

Interesting point of note in the article.
February 2007, as part of an investigation of child sex abuse in Florida, records show that the FBI interviewed Epstein’s ranch manager at the New Mexico property.
Department of Justice
Per the document, the ranch manager told the FBI that he and his wife had overseen the property for about four years, and that Epstein typically spent several weeks there in the summer, often accompanied by “his personal assistant, his bodyguard, friends, personal trainer, and sometimes his masseuses”.
The interview ended abruptly, according to the agent. The investigator wrote that someone called the staff and instructed them that “they were no longer allowed to speak with us”.
“The interview was immediately ended,” the report notes.

Does anyone know of any staff who actually went on the record with their tenure ?
 
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Interesting point of note in the article.
February 2007, as part of an investigation of child sex abuse in Florida, records show that the FBI interviewed Epstein’s ranch manager at the New Mexico property.
Department of Justice
Per the document, the ranch manager told the FBI that he and his wife had overseen the property for about four years, and that Epstein typically spent several weeks there in the summer, often accompanied by “his personal assistant, his bodyguard, friends, personal trainer, and sometimes his masseuses”.
The interview ended abruptly, according to the agent. The investigator wrote that someone called the staff and instructed them that “they were no longer allowed to speak with us”.
“The interview was immediately ended,” the report notes.

Does anyone know of any staff who actually went on the record with their tenure ?
Didn't the ranch manager and his wife then go missing........

I'm sure I read that somewhere.....I'll share if I find it....
 
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When are more perpetrators going to be named? So far, all we have is all this depravity was arranged and participated in by Jeffrey, Ghislaine, Mandelson and the artist formerly known as Prince Andrew....is that it?
If you are meaning the 20-30(?) unnamed ones protected in that special deal where Epstein got that joke of a sentence (in return for... what exactly?) then their names continue to be protected until such time as the crowdwork can put the pieces together, which will take some time to get right.
 
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Whhhhy hasn’t it been questioned who took the photos of Epstein with the children and that person found… I say deep into the files and that question might be answered
 
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Was it not very one sided - regarding Wendy Deng?
I thought she was obsessed with Blair, and he was basically trying to bat her off, so to speak.
Murdoch was pissed off, with Wendy’s Blair obsession, but I can’t see any wrong doing on Blair’s side?

Wendy has form, for being bonkers. I read, a few years back that she was trying to set up private meetings with Blair, with him being annoyed by it - as she was giving the impression that is was Murdoch he would be meeting.
it was very weird, I remember that.

I’m no fan of Blair, but I don’t see him as being a sex nut, or having his head turned by anyone, in that way.

I actually don’t think any former UK Prime Minister has had a threesome with that vile pair. Not that I would clear any of them from any possible wrongdoing. I just don’t think it happened.
It would have been fantastic for Epstein. He probably got as much of a buzz from blackmailing people, as he did from trafficking young women and girls.
Apparently they were meeting up alone and US intelligence knew about it. Blair denied it, but he would, wouldn’t he?
 
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Bearing mind all the various meanings and definitions of 'working for', 'communicating with', 'providing professional services', 'spying for', 'blackmailed by' etc etc there's a lot here that covers most of those and with a crazy amount of links to references (article from a couple of months ago) :


It's all those variations on the theme that allow for so much collaboration without necessarily being 'full time agent'.
 
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So basically, everyone who has inside knowledge hasn’t been forthcoming. It’s so murky, this massive web of deceit.
How many people were needed to run two islands, plus the ranch and other properties.
I watched one video yesterday, which said the families of the girls were threatened. Though some kept going back, flying from South Africa to his properties. I would have done a Julia Roberts, and cut my hair and used a pseudonym.
 
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Surprise surprise...


So the deal she is offering is to exonerate Trump in return for him granting her clemency?
Riiight....
 
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Surprise surprise...


So the deal she is offering is to exonerate Trump in return for him granting her clemency?
Riiight....
No, she’s offering to say what she knows in return for clemency. Refusing to speak out as long as you are in jail is probably a good way of avoiding being murdered in jail. Which is very pertinent to her situation given what happened to Epstein.
 
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Was it not very one sided - regarding Wendy Deng?
I thought she was obsessed with Blair, and he was basically trying to bat her off, so to speak.
Murdoch was pissed off, with Wendy’s Blair obsession, but I can’t see any wrong doing on Blair’s side?


Wendy has form, for being bonkers. I read, a few years back that she was trying to set up private meetings with Blair, with him being annoyed by it - as she was giving the impression that is was Murdoch he would be meeting.
it was very weird, I remember that.

I’m no fan of Blair, but I don’t see him as being a sex nut, or having his head turned by anyone, in that way.

I actually don’t think any former UK Prime Minister has had a threesome with that vile pair. Not that I would clear any of them from any possible wrongdoing. I just don’t think it happened.
It would have been fantastic for Epstein. He probably got as much of a buzz from blackmailing people, as he did from trafficking young women and girls.
you must have read something from Blair‘s PR. 😂 It was well gossiped about at the time and this piece is quite detailed. Blair is slipperier than an eel, I bet it was him in the threesome.

 
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No, she’s offering to say what she knows in return for clemency. Refusing to speak out as long as you are in jail is probably a good way of avoiding being murdered in jail. Which is very pertinent to her situation given what happened to Epstein.
Her attorney is quite specifically saying she'll testify that Trump (and Clinton) are innocent of any wrongdoing if she's granted clemency, though.
 
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