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Interesting how Jafar Starch is trying to copy strike Liam's video without success. I don't think it has nothing to do with the lipstick n*zi receipts as he addressed them and can always be excused with "it was in the past". I think it's because of the receipts of Jafar having posted revenge porn on that website that was closed by the FBI. Even though it's also "it was in the past", that's an actual criminal act and many people might not excuse this as easily. I suspect Liam is probably getting threats from Jafar's lawyers. I hope he doesn't back off because he's in the right: the receipts he got are public info and he seems to be protecting himself legally properly.
 
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Personally don't like James and have always been more of a passive J* fan/fascinated by his charisma and cockroach like qualities. Now to play devil's advocate that bit about nazi being a word thrown around is true I remember me and my friends using it not knowing what it was "grammar nazi" as kids. However somewhat entertaining he is his toxicity shows how he talks to his fans, to others, and the fact that he loses friends left and right is telling. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole in real life.

However now that we're getting info that Dramageddon 2 was planned I'm thinking that something smells really fishy here. They're all trying to come for him at the same time? c'mon that's too convenient. Not saying that J* isn't shady af, but he got on the internet before people really got how your past mistakes could haunt you and seems like the rest of them are just conniving and probably have skeletons in their closets too (they just know that you can't publicize that tit) and are trying to take down the Queen Bee for views, clout.

Not trying to defend anyone but seems like the truth is somewhere in the middle in this case.
 
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Personally don't like James and have always been more of a passive J* fan/fascinated by his charisma and cockroach like qualities. Now to play devil's advocate that bit about nazi being a word thrown around is true I remember me and my friends using it not knowing what it was "grammar nazi" as kids. However somewhat entertaining he is his toxicity shows how he talks to his fans, to others, and the fact that he loses friends left and right is telling. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole in real life.

However now that we're getting info that Dramageddon 2 was planned I'm thinking that something smells really fishy here. They're all trying to come for him at the same time? c'mon that's too convenient. Not saying that J* isn't shady af, but he got on the internet before people really got how your past mistakes could haunt you and seems like the rest of them are just conniving and probably have skeletons in their closets too (they just know that you can't publicize that tit) and are trying to take down the Queen Bee for views, clout.

Not trying to defend anyone but seems like the truth is somewhere in the middle in this case.
Everyone involved is shady of course. All the ex "friends" coming forward somehow benefited from the relationship with Joffrey in the past and didn't speak up or stepped back on the instances Joffrey said or did what they say he did or said. I commented before that I was curious to know why everyone is speaking out now, when before everyone was so scared of speaking against Joffrey and even beauty gurus were so scared of saying anything remotely negatively about Joffrey's products. But I think that though he will never be cancelled and the Dhavie issue didn't cancel him as I thought it would, it ended his "reign" of no one daring to speak negatively about him. The public opinion has shifted, specially because of his involvement in Dramageddon 2. Putting these 2 cases together, lot's of people had enough of kissing his ass because now it's safe and profitable to speak against Joffrey. Before people like Ashley Kyle were all up in Joffrey's ass helping him destroy James Charles.
 
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Everyone involved is shady of course. All the ex "friends" coming forward somehow benefited from the relationship with Joffrey in the past and didn't speak up or stepped back on the instances Joffrey said or did what they say he did or said. I commented before that I was curious to know why everyone is speaking out now, when before everyone was so scared of speaking against Joffrey and even beauty gurus were so scared of saying anything remotely negatively about Joffrey's products. But I think that though he will never be cancelled and the Dhavie issue didn't cancel him as I thought it would, it ended his "reign" of no one daring to speak negatively about him. The public opinion has shifted, specially because of his involvement in Dramageddon 2. Putting these 2 cases together, lot's of people had enough of kissing his ass because now it's safe and profitable to speak against Joffrey. Before people like Ashley Kyle were all up in Joffrey's ass helping him destroy James Charles.
agree except for one thing has it really ended his "reign"? I'll admit it's hard to hate on him sometimes when he gives out 30k to subscribers etc whereas other influencers can't be arsed to do a small giveaway. Seems like he'll slither his way out of this one too/create some good pr for himself to do damage control
 
agree except for one thing has it really ended his "reign"? I'll admit it's hard to hate on him sometimes when he gives out 30k to subscribers etc whereas other influencers can't be arsed to do a small giveaway. Seems like he'll slither his way out of this one too/create some good pr for himself to do damage control
It didn't end his success and success as business owner, what I meant is that the times of people fearing for their careers or Jeffree's stans coming after them are over. People are daring to call him out publicly when before not many would dare. That's what I meant with his reign being over on that aspect. I don't wish ill to anyone, but he's done so many messed up things that it's good to see him being treated like anyone else and being called out as he should. If people can be automatically cancelled because they were bad friends to him/social climbers and posted shady captions on IG, then he can be called out for having been a racist, calling Jackie Aina gorilla not that long ago and another POC influencer rat, being aggressive, having posted on a revenge porn website, grabbing a man's crotch on camera against his consent, talking about his friends behind their backs, plotting for other influencers' demise and feeding gossip to drama channels, saying he saw a predator doing illegal stuff with minors (his agent said he saw too), then saying he didn't see anything and never addressing why he said he did see it personaly and now acting as if he didn't making it harder for the victims, the whole James Charles situation and how he helped take him down and dangling receipts like a carrot but never showing anything nor going to the police, being nasty to his own fans, all his lies, flaunting furs with the money he gets from his vegan products, his hypocrisy about James Charles' and straight boys when he couldn't stop bragging about Nate being straight and having a song about fxcking straight boys, saying Nate is a private person and doesn't want the limelight but having told lots of details about Nate's sexual life and all kind of too much information, etc etc, deflecting on his actions by blaming others/acting as if the 2010s were the dark ages, his overall hypocrisy. He's now a target just like anyone in the beauty community was and is and that's fair game.

But as I said, he's a cockroach, so I don't think he'll ever be cancelled. Now it's time for PR damage control 30K donations to fans to calm down the waters and shift opinions.

I think Lushious should move on and stop talking about these people and he's for sure getting their coin talking about these topics while saying he's not a drama channel (sure jan lol), but I found this video funny. And think him and Rick Lux were best friends in the past lol

 
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Sebastian's timeline of contradictions always makes me laugh lol


Brilliant video. Would recommend Peter Monn's latest video too, he is not holding back with the criticism of both Jeffree and Shane Dawson.

Tbh I'm a bit sad that Shane has aligned himself with Jeffree although I am starting to think that Shane is very good at playing on people's emotions and is actually much more conniving than people realise.
 
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Brilliant video. Would recommend Peter Monn's latest video too, he is not holding back with the criticism of both Jeffree and Shane Dawson.

Tbh I'm a bit sad that Shane has aligned himself with Jeffree although I am starting to think that Shane is very good at playing on people's emotions and is actually much more conniving than people realise.
I think you got your wish here.
 
Brilliant video. Would recommend Peter Monn's latest video too, he is not holding back with the criticism of both Jeffree and Shane Dawson.

Tbh I'm a bit sad that Shane has aligned himself with Jeffree although I am starting to think that Shane is very good at playing on people's emotions and is actually much more conniving than people realise.
I think Shane is also a manipulator, but he hides it better and plays the innocent better than Jeffree. I think he was always like that, but when it really showed was during his docuseries for his pallet. That "documentary" was manipulation tactic after manipulation tactic to sell his pallet and paint himself in a certain image.

Btw, such as Jeffree I don't think Shane will ever be cancelled, but Shane's ego can't take criticism either, so get ready for some tweets of Shane alluding to his mental health being bad because of the criticism or some other manipulation tactics he likes to use when he's under fire. Or maybe some deflection tactics to distract the fans, like suddenly marrying Ryland and filming the wedding or something like that.
 
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Just checked Shane's Twitter and he is getting serious backlash for statement (and removal of it). His statement was very disappointing.

I don't think it can be ignored by the general public anymore Shane is in bed with some very shady and toxic people. Jeffree, Tana (the video series he did about TanaCon was pathetic he basically comforted her and was pretty mild in his criticism of her) and Trisha he considers good friends (or family in the case of Jeffree). I don't think he can be that naive as to see what these people get up to and still be their friend.

I think Jeffree should just step back from the limelight and focus on his brands. He won't because he is a narcissist.

Peter Monn highlighted something in one of his recent videos about blocking people on Twitter, once they are blocked they can't see your new tweets and criticise what you are doing so the majority of comments look positive to you and anyone reading the thread.
 
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Just checked Shane's Twitter and he is getting serious backlash for statement (and removal of it). His statement was very disappointing.

I don't think it can be ignored by the general public anymore Shane is in bed with some very shady and toxic people. Jeffree, Tana (the video series he did about TanaCon was pathetic he basically comforted her and was pretty mild in his criticism of her) and Trisha he considers good friends (or family in the case of Jeffree). I don't think he can be that naive as to see what these people get up to and still be their friend.

I think Jeffree should just step back from the limelight and focus on his brands. He won't because he is a narcissist.

Peter Monn highlighted something in one of his recent videos about blocking people on Twitter, once they are blocked they can't see your new tweets and criticise what you are doing so the majority of comments look positive to you and anyone reading the thread.

Exactly, Jeffree could be sitting happily on his millions and focusing on his brands, but he's a narcissist and always needs to be in the center of attention.

Also I don't think Shane is naive at all. He's just as shady as these people, but he hides it better an he's careful built this "innocent, naive" persona yo detract the public from seeing his BS.
 
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Don't know if it's just me but I think Shane is the company he keeps? He enables all this behaviour
 
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What’s all this about Shane Dawson trending on twitter with jeffree star?? I’ve read the notes but I can’t make sense of it (I’m drunk lmao)?? Can someone explain please??
 
Don't know if it's just me but I think Shane is the company he keeps? He enables all this behaviour
Tana cries all through the TanaCon series, Shane comforts her as she was young and naive despite there being video evidence of.her being involved in meetings setting up TanaCon James Charles is called a 'predator' with no evidence but that's ok because he needed to be 'humbled'...

The more I think about Shane's statement and his actions with others the more pissed off with him I get. Jeffree regrets his actions in calling James out but still bangs on about having evidence and that people have told him things. Jeffree I could start telling people you have a 1 inch fool doesn't make it true!

If Shane is done with the beauty guru side of things that's up to him. It can be a toxic place but the common denominator in all of the drama is his good pal Jeffree.

The beauty stuff does appear now just to be a cash grab and he is in bed with Jeffree for the time being as Jeffree's company is producing the merch.

Shane you've made your bed with Jeffree, I look forward to you both being cancelled.

Everyone needs to watch Peter Monn he has made some great jokes in his videos whilst calling out everyone for their crappy behaviour.
 
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What a hilariously convenient excuse for him to stop pretending he's interested in makeup beyond how much money it can make him.
 
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What a hilariously convenient excuse for him to stop pretending he's interested in makeup beyond how much money it can make him.
Haha yes. After the cash grab he stopped doing anything beauty. He gave some excuses that he plays with makeup everyday but in private (sure, Jan lol) but people were still calling him out. Now he can have this excuse without looking like he was in it just for the money. And before anyone says anything, I'd respect him more if he had been honest and said "I have no interest in makeup but I see this as a good business opportunity" and admitted it was about the commercial aspect of it. Why pretending you're interested on makeup and putting all this show acting all relatable and doing it for passion? There's nothing wrong in doing things to get that coin, why not being transparent about it? I don't get him.
 
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how come jeffree gets sooooooooo many excuses but no one else gets to???? not a fan of james but he is supposedly 'a danger to society' james but jeffree has done 10x what he has and is allowed to 'change' and 'grow' :rolleyes:
 
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