I think that Christopher Tenerife posted about this? That it wasn’t so far along the road iirc
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I've translated the Signi statement on Google and it confuses me -
'The team with the dogs picked up Jay's tracks at the Airbnb he left and in the valley where the last phone poll was, just before the phone went dead.
Around noon the dogs were given a rest to avoid the high temperatures. During that break the message came in that a body had been found. Where was still unclear.
Later that day, Signi's Snelle continued the trail to the location, where it later turned out that Jay had been lifted up by helicopter.
The changed goal was now to visualize Jay's route as much as possible, so that Jay's family had more clarity about his last journey, which was too difficult for them to make.'
So that suggests Signi started in the morning, then stopped to rest, before picking up in the afternoon/evening, so in that brief period of time of what a few hours?! the Spanish team suddenly found him after a month of not?! It all seems rather suss.
Then this bit -
'The next day a second dog, Signi's Royce, again brought the search team to the helicopter site.
On the third day of the search, the 3rd dog, Signi's Flex, managed to get through to the scene of the accident. A tough journey of 2.5 hours was made through rocky terrain with lots of weeds, bushes and cacti.
When Flex clearly smelled the final destination, the area and the road to it were viewed by the drone (National Drone Team). The team was spared the steep descent, because the end point was captured by the drone 20 meters away from them.'
So are they suggesting where his body was found is accessible by road? If so why are they all scaling cliff-faces? Colour me thoroughly baffled. And if it was accessible by road does that mean someone could have driven him there and lobbed him off the top?
'The team with the dogs picked up Jay's tracks at the Airbnb he left and in the valley where the last phone poll was, just before the phone went dead.
Around noon the dogs were given a rest to avoid the high temperatures. During that break the message came in that a body had been found. Where was still unclear.
Later that day, Signi's Snelle continued the trail to the location, where it later turned out that Jay had been lifted up by helicopter.
The changed goal was now to visualize Jay's route as much as possible, so that Jay's family had more clarity about his last journey, which was too difficult for them to make.'
So that suggests Signi started in the morning, then stopped to rest, before picking up in the afternoon/evening, so in that brief period of time of what a few hours?! the Spanish team suddenly found him after a month of not?! It all seems rather suss.
Then this bit -
'The next day a second dog, Signi's Royce, again brought the search team to the helicopter site.
On the third day of the search, the 3rd dog, Signi's Flex, managed to get through to the scene of the accident. A tough journey of 2.5 hours was made through rocky terrain with lots of weeds, bushes and cacti.
When Flex clearly smelled the final destination, the area and the road to it were viewed by the drone (National Drone Team). The team was spared the steep descent, because the end point was captured by the drone 20 meters away from them.'
So are they suggesting where his body was found is accessible by road? If so why are they all scaling cliff-faces? Colour me thoroughly baffled. And if it was accessible by road does that mean someone could have driven him there and lobbed him off the top?
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Thanks for the translation
It seems a huge coincidence that they found him just as the search dogs were having their break.
I saw a video a few days ago where people in Tenerife at the time were saying there was gossip of a body being found and a tip off being made on the Saturday.
Could it be that the word for path and road are used interchangeably in Dutch maybe? Are they referring to the path the dog took?
I definitely think he was either taken there already dead and thrown off or alive and pushed. Or he was taken to somewhere closeby and fell whilst trying to run away.
Thanks for the translation
It seems a huge coincidence that they found him just as the search dogs were having their break.
I saw a video a few days ago where people in Tenerife at the time were saying there was gossip of a body being found and a tip off being made on the Saturday.
Could it be that the word for path and road are used interchangeably in Dutch maybe? Are they referring to the path the dog took?
I definitely think he was either taken there already dead and thrown off or alive and pushed. Or he was taken to somewhere closeby and fell whilst trying to run away.
This is one of the best descriptions of this kind of person I have ever read. Tbh I am only quoting it so I can come back to it the next time one of these things happens. Lots of my own family are this way and it sickens me. Too stupid to understand what they don’t understand.
I had already stuck up a translation. Yep seems suspect imo.
I know I read all that from the text, what I'm saying is if you read the timeline they give, they say they started early morning, rested and went back the same day and in between that period of time, the body was found. That's an incredibly short window.
Do you want brownie points for posting the translation first? I obviously hadn't seen, I wasn't trying to prove anything, I just had questions and was posting the relevant info ffs
Ok calm downI know I read all that from the text, what I'm saying is if you read the timeline they give, they say they started early morning, rested and went back the same day and in between that period of time, the body was found. That's an incredibly short window.
Do you want brownie points for posting the translation first? I obviously hadn't seen, I wasn't trying to prove anything, I just had questions and was posting the relevant info ffs
You didn't even need to stick it into google to translate it. It's on the signi page. Don't get your knickers in a twist 
You are the one who needed to point out you posted it first, I literally could not give a duck, as I've already told you, I posted it to provide evidence of the questions I was asking because it was relevant. You are making something of absolutely nothing.Ok calm down
Can you stop moaning on and on. Give it a rest now ffs
C'mon tattlers. What would angle Jay say about all this bickering.
So the Dutch team found the scent then obviously needed to allow their dogs to rest, the Spanish authorities suddenly found his body, wow, that is mind boggling the probability of that happening needs to be studied, but needless to say it adds to the fuckwittery of this case.
Think that's probably one of the viewpoint where most people take their photos?
Whatever state he was in, absolutely pished/paranoid, did he not leave the AirBnB and head up the road instead of down? His phone call to his friend, he said he could hear the gravelly sound because of he was off-road. He said he didn't sound worried (so maybe he was like aye duck it, I'm leaving). Clearly not thinking straight. I really do think when he phone Lucy and said he couldn't go back it was because he was lost and had gone too far. He was further down in ropey terrain and realised he wasn't going to get out without rope/being rescued.
The drone footage of the supposed area where he was found, it doesn't mean he necessarily felt from the top, does it? He may have been lower down, realised how stuck he was and tried to climb back up.
Or it could have just been that he took a wrong step somewhere further back, the ground was softer than he expected (because it's volcanic rock) and slipped and then eventually fell over a steep edge. It's such a huge and jaggy drop, he may have lost his footing and seriously tumbled (like falling down stairs).
Whatever caused him to leave instead of staying with his friends is what bothers me the most.
I genuinely have friends who at that age would be like, "duck it, we can walk".
duck, I've walked from the city centre cause I couldn't get home to my village town and didn't want to stay with the people I was out with. I was even stopped by police because they had seen me hours before and spoken to me. They gave me a short lift home (I was then 5 minutes away) when they realised I had in fact walked myself the entire way home from chatting to me earlier.
That was on main roads and I was 16/17.the thought of my kids doing that now puts the fear up me, anything could have happened.
Although the fact it said 11 hours, I'm too lazy (drunk or not) to make that journey. He must have decided he could find a shortcut. There is a reason the roads and structures are where they are.
If only he had stayed with his friends or stayed and charged his phone.
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Jay managed to find a charger and seen all this carry on and yeeted himself off the cliff didn’t he? Hells bells.
There was a lad I went to school with who tried to walk 3 hours home in the pitch black along a motorway pissed as a fart in the middle of the night and got hit by a car and died on the scene. I was sorry for his death but he was a nasty little bleep who thought he was invincible and paid the ultimate price. People do the stupidest tit when they are young, especially when drugs and alcohol are involved. I said before Jay wouldn't have tackled terrain like that with any sense but the more I think about it the more I think maybe he would, he clearly had a history of terrible decisions.
Just FYI the teachers in the language department at the high school I work in advise not to use Google translate because it does it's best but doesn't get everything exactly right. That could add to why this is so confusing.
I believe the Spanish police knew roughly where he was but because of idiots like DTR snooping about, possibly ruining trails by searching (if he really every did any searching) they had to keep it to themselves. It's also a huge risk for those doing the recovery, putting their own lives at risk with each step they take to try and find someone, knowing that by that point it was a body.
I read the word bickering as bricklaying...I have read the word bricklaying so many times in the past month!
Also, will Jay get a posthumous ceremony for his bricklaying qualification?
Will there be ongoing fundraisers locally...to keep it relevant? I imagine an annual music festival.
My sisters friend did that! Drugged up and drunk walking naked in the middle of the mororway! My sister got to her. She also went ionto the local river in the same state!
Even if that's the case that would imply they were holding off on retrieving the body because otherwise what are the odds they found it in the exact few hour break Signi had on the day they started searching? I really think the chance of that is insane
I said it before but i honestly think they found him on the day they called off the search but they couldnt find a safe way to get him out or without loads of randoms gathering. The fact that this team from the netherlands was about to find him and possibly disclose the exact location was what made the police make the announcement, it meant the exact location wasnt shared and that loads of people havent gone lookiNg possibly putting theirselves in more danger. However i have noted that they have shared a video so i just hope you dont get any nutters going looking further.
It's said the ledge the team with the dog got down to is where Jay fell off. Here you can see what to me look like steps in a way, battered but they look like old broken steps that were long ago fashioned into the mountain.
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