Don’t forget the tacky balloon arch
Don’t forget the tacky balloon archPlus the money for the wake after the funeral as in free bar , DJ etc .
At least another 20k.
Yes - exactly what I've been thinking. A lot of people have been saying "well he was off his nut" or "he was high and didn't know what he was doing". That isn't how drugs work. If he was really fucked up at the time there would be no way he would be snap chatting coherently and writing texts or even manage to get as far as he did when his phone pinged.I do completely understand and agree however unless he dropped a pill directly before leaving the air b&b which would make him trip the timescales suggested would allow time for him to be coming down and there’s generally a complete misunderstanding of the effect of other party drugs and the level of inhibition they give. If Ayubs account is true and he went straight to bed - Jay was in there for around an hour with an hours car journey there…I don’t know but the theory he was off his head so wandered off is possible but in my opinion unlikely.
Even wrecked he’s been sober enough to report being injured on the phone so knows he’s been hurt. That to me shows some level of being lucid. To then CONTINUE getting hurt through that terrain? Seeing that video above I struggle to see how he could have made the decision to continue on such a dangerous path while already being aware he was injured.
He knew when he called Lucy cut up from a cactus and where the phone ping was (which is somewhere between 30-60 mins walk from where he was actually found) he was injured and if he turned round at that point and retraced his steps he’d be hopping straight on a bus instead of a supposed 9-10 hour walk. But he decided not to??
I do think it’s possible, I just think it’s unlikely.
Edit to clarify - what I’m saying is I don’t think it’s likely he’s done it SOLELY because he was under the influence. I believe other factors have contributed to his decision making.
Definitely depends on what drugs he’s consumed and when. Coke for instance has a sobering effect which a lot of people who haven’t used it don’t understand! Yes you aren’t sober but it’s a stimulant as opposed to the effects of alcohol so can make someone much more alert even after drinking. You’re more likely to make that stupid decision from alcohol alone imo.Yes - exactly what I've been thinking. A lot of people have been saying "well he was off his nut" or "he was high and didn't know what he was doing". That isn't how drugs work. If he was really fucked up at the time there would be no way he would be snap chatting coherently and writing texts or even manage to get as far as he did when his phone pinged.
Drugs also don't make you think a 10 hour walk is preferable to waiting 2 hours for a bus.
Come downs make you feel like shit but they don't have you tweaking out like some meth head. If he was worried I doubt it was drug induced paranoia.
Yes however I assume Lucy isn't being entirely truthful about what was really said. We already know she lied and said he called her when really she called him. Maybe this is why his mum thought he had been taken or got into trouble. Lucy told his nearest and dearest but not the police and media. He could have also still told Lucy he was lost without mentioning being taken there if he were embarrassed at what had happened.If he had been taken there by a third party and left there or subjected to a beating or something, wouldn't he have mentioned this to Lucy during the phone call?
Plus JAY in light up letters..........this is not going to be a small afternoon tea this will be chaosDon’t forget the tacky balloon arch
The £52k quoted was from a fake Deb profile, it was a scammer who asked for money from anyone who reacted to their comments.Couldn’t comment on last thread as it was closed but her saying the search team costing £52k, I’m sure that’s what the GFM was at when he was found or there about!….convenient!
they’re a charity organisation but they’d have had to maybe pay flights and accommodation for them. I’d say £5k max
Did they say his passport was in his room?According to the Daily Express documents were found with Jay proving the body was his. That's odd considering he had managed to lose his hotel room keys. Was he carrying everything (like his passport) in that backpack 🫠
According to Manchester Evening News his passport etc was at the apartment he was staying in. Unless it was his driving licence as I take mine out but leave my passport in the safe when I'm on holiday.According to the Daily Express documents were found with Jay proving the body was his. That's odd considering he had managed to lose his hotel room keys. Was he carrying everything (like his passport) in that backpack 🫠
Ah yes that could be right because he'd need to prove his age to get a drink.According to Manchester Evening News his passport etc was at the apartment he was staying in. Unless it was his driving licence as I take mine out but leave my passport in the safe when I'm on holiday.
I wasn’t dismissing the other unexplained issues. Just adding what I also thought might be in the mix.I do completely understand and agree however unless he dropped a pill directly before leaving the air b&b which would make him trip the timescales suggested would allow time for him to be coming down and there’s generally a complete misunderstanding of the effect of other party drugs and the level of inhibition they give. If Ayubs account is true and he went straight to bed - Jay was in there for around an hour with an hours car journey there…I don’t know but the theory he was off his head so wandered off is possible but in my opinion unlikely.
Even wrecked he’s been sober enough to report being injured on the phone so knows he’s been hurt. That to me shows some level of being lucid. To then CONTINUE getting hurt through that terrain? Seeing that video above I struggle to see how he could have made the decision to continue on such a dangerous path while already being aware he was injured.
He knew when he called Lucy cut up from a cactus and where the phone ping was (which is somewhere between 30-60 mins walk from where he was actually found) he was injured and if he turned round at that point and retraced his steps he’d be hopping straight on a bus instead of a supposed 9-10 hour walk. But he decided not to??
I do think it’s possible, I just think it’s unlikely.
Edit to clarify - what I’m saying is I don’t think it’s likely he’s done it SOLELY because he was under the influence. I believe other factors have contributed to his decision making.
People are saying he fell from they were standing on in the footage, the dog was looking over it and down. Like I said anyone would know it was the wrong way and impossible to pass and just stop and wait for rescue. There is a reason he just left like that to walk so far and tried to go down there and it wasn't for scran. Sensible people would wait till morning and a bus.Blimey, that footage is scary. No wonder they took so long to find him.
From what I understand he fell from the top?
It will be very telling if his body had the watch with it or not.
Also how do bottles of water stop dogs peeing on your doorstep?
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