Jay Slater #13

[soupmodel]

We've no idea who Debbie is or what she's going through. I can find her money seeking repugnant but I can't judge her for wanting to see him. She's maybe never seen a body/ creature 3 weeks dead and exposed and she has no idea what she's asking for.

I feel like at this point, by her not understanding how much he won't resemble her son at this point is a sign of being stuck in the denial stage. I think they had so much false hope/misinformation that he was taken somewhere or had somehow managed to survive and they can't get past that?

TW: death & suicide:

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Having been to a funeral today, where I watched a heartbroken Dad, try to hold it together while speaking for his son... Everyone was in bits.
We could all feel his pain that he was feeling and sharing in that moment. His final goodbye to one of his babies. Awful stuff. I just can't imagine the pain.

And this was death by suicide, after struggling privately for years with mental health.

Not a missing person who made risky choices, alone in an unfamiliar place and went viral for it.

I feel that Jay's family have been surrounded by so many people, giving them false hope and not feeling like they have had support from the Spanish police or whatever went on...

They are going to keep looking for someone to blame and hold onto that denial, especially if everyone online keeps looking at his final moments in the same disbelief alongside conspiracies.

I'm just not sure why it hadn't clicked that if he hadn't been found after X amount of time, he was most likely deceased. Maybe that's the morbid/matter of fact side of me though.

I agree, @NotAgain? I'd probably be out of my mind with grief and have to see them one last time (since I brought them into the world and couldn't bare the thought of them being alone... but also being raised with Irish style funerals). I understand it would be damaging but I'd probably already be so ducked up for the rest of my life so wouldn't care at that time.

The police trying to save her the pain and damage of saying he isn't suitable for viewing, so she can preserve the memory she has of him, only adds fuel to the fire of some sort of conspiracy for them that they are hiding something etc. Catch-22, I guess.

 

[Marcie2021]

As a mother of a son in his 20’s I have brought him up to the best of my abilities. He’s witnessed divorce and warring parents but has gained a degree and represented the university at rowing and other sports. It’s his friends and other influences in the UK that has been my worry. You can bring your children up well but if the chav influence pollutes their mind. It’s a slippy slope.

I've never really had a strong desire to have children which is why I chose not to as it's the most important decision you ever make to bring a human being in to to the world.

Another reason is exactly what you say, you can do your very best for your children but they could be led astray by outside influences and I know I would have worried myself sick if I had children.

 

[SG1981]

Most of the people in Oswaldtwistle don't believe he fell

wake will be interesting then when they're all full of drink!

 

[soupmodel]

wake will be interesting then when they're all full of drink!

Look, I don't think I could even pronounce their hometown sober. English place names confuse me

 

[NotAgain?]

Look, I don't think I could even pronounce their hometown sober. English place names confuse me

Lol, miss out half the letters and you're there. Gloucestershire and Worcestershire always get my students upset! Ozultwizzle

 

[Lars Guinard]

Look, I don't think I could even pronounce their hometown sober. English place names confuse me

Mr Lars, not a Lancastrian, fails to pronounce the place name you mention. After a few attempts of it sounding like 'arseh*le twizzle' ...I suggested he stick to 'near Accrington'

It's Welsh place names I struggle with!

 

[soupmodel]

Lol, miss out half the letters and you're there. Gloucestershire and Worcestershire always get my students upset! Ozultwizzle

I can handle both of those shires just from general knowledge/exposure.
Thank you for the phonetic pronunciation . Every time I see the name my brain is just like "WTF" !

Daft sidebar for the LOLz:

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We were on holiday end of June, driving to Skegness, and my kids could not believe how many flags there were in people's gardens in England. They started a tally. A good car game for them to play, I guess. Then they eventually picked up on all the name places being "something-thorpe"...

So, if you're from Theddlethorpe or nearby, my apologies if you heard wee Scottish wains giggling, loudly "Teedily-tum-teddliy-deedily-dum-diddily-thorpe!"

I tried to stop them but that made it more fun. They musta sounded like a herd of Scottish Ned Flanders. I'm sure it was the hysteria from being in the car for so long but it's become their weird inside joke and they are still randomly saying it .

They also made us stop the car after seeing a sign for "Butt Lane". I've just looked it up on What3Words and it's name there is "cushy.cushy.ventures" - no joke. Me and Mr. soupmodel are bleeping buckled .

 

[Redgirl81]

Rach the gangsta has put a picture up on TT of Brad & Jay… she has put some music over it - a song called ‘Epidemic’ by Polo G.

Here is just some of the lyrics…

‘On a lick’ means….

 

[Lars Guinard]

Rach the gangsta has put a picture up on TT of Brad & Jay… she has put some music over it - a song called ‘Epidemic’ by Polo G.

Here is just some of the lyrics…

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‘On a lick’ means….

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Is that woman incapable of tact/thinking/even an iota of acting like a functioning adult?!

The song is definitely 'problematic'...even references a Rolex, you just would not!

Interesting that it is posted after Ayub and Rocky do a live or not and just a coincidence? Hmmmh

 

[cycleon]

Clip from Ayub’s live .

no I don’t know wtf you’re saying
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He said they went out looking for jay that night... none of it adds up

I think he means that Monday night, Lucy came to the airbnb and they were looking after that after reporting to police
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Woaaah did anyone else expect Ayub to have a mickey mouse voice?!? Haha I really didnt expect the deep voice, I thought it had been dubbed at first!


Regarding that Jay Slater missing account, this guy thinks it is Lucy running it and has some stuff to say about it.



This is part two, at around 11 minutes we hear from the guy who recorded that last video of Jay off his bits in the club. He says that would have been at about 1am. I don't know how long it takes to cone down off pills but is it realistic that Jay would've been together enough just two hours later to speak with Ayub and ask to go to his house? He also says the only person in that video that is with Jay is Brandon, in the black tshirt. Video guy knows that because everyone else in the video he is friends with and and none of them knew Jay or Brandon.
If that's the truth why the hell did Brandon ditch Jay?

it was reported early on that a witness saw Brandon get in the car too, that there was a 4th person

 

[MrsMushroom]

100% Brandon is involved

 

[Shesaidwhat?]

Pleased I’m not the only one wondering how you pronounce Oswaldtwistle?

 

[Cady1954]

Pleased I’m not the only one wondering how you pronounce Oswaldtwistle?

Its easy 'Chav-town'

 

[soupmodel]

100% Brandon is involved

Is he the charmer who took a photo of his crotch and typed over it for an Instagram story?

Pleased I’m not the only one wondering how you pronounce Oswaldtwistle?

@NotAgain? has sorted us out

Even out loud though, it sounds like the kind of a noise a person might make who's banged their knee on a cabinet, burnt themselves on the hob at the same time and is trying not to swear in front of their kids.

 

[griftalo]

Is he the charmer who took a photo of his crotch and typed over it for an Instagram story?


@NotAgain? has sorted us out

Even out loud though, it sounds like the kind of a noise a person might make who's banged their knee on a cabinet, burnt themselves on the hob at the same time and is trying not to swear in front of their kids.

Think that was Brad.
Are they all wrongun’s in ozzletwizzle? My only experience of anyone from there is many many years ago when I tried online dating and some guy from there who claimed to be a train driver tried inviting me to ride on the train with him while he was driving and you know…

 

[Camping Mat]

Oswaldtwistle is pronounced as if it doesn't have the first 'w' and the 'd' - so, Osaltwistle (no, not O-salt-whistle).

Reminded me of when I took the family to Happisburgh in Norfolk. We were calling it Happis-burg when a local informed us that it's Haze-brough - the two p's are silent and the 'burgh' is as in Edinburgh.

 

[topsy-turvy]

100% Brandon is the missing link in all of this. There was a report of a disturbance that morning so it’s not beyond the realm of doubt that it’s possibly Jay and Brandon that’s had a bust up.

Ayub spoke on Lucy and Brad clearing their names but shut down any conversation about Brandon straight away and his demeanour kept changing.

I think the night before is when the watch was stolen. I’m sure Lucy confirmed to Hayley comet in a message that there was a watch stolen but it wasn’t that night.

Day1 knew he was dodgy, he is red hot, what for is yet to Unfold...It bloody better unfold , because I need to know what I sensed
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I mean they cant be that big time seeing as he’s only had his teeth whitened rather than a full turkey spesh. Surely any decent dealer could afford a week in turkey and definitely wouldn’t be going live on tiktok these two are small fry

That why I think Brandon+family are the higher up part, he went puff Into thin air.
But if these keep doing these lives(Ive only seen what's here so god knows others there) they are Gona hang the wrong person accidentally in somet
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Day1 knew he was dodgy, he is red hot, what for is yet to Unfold...It bloody better unfold , because I need to know what I sensed
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That why I think Brandon+family are the higher up part, he went puff Into thin air.
But if these keep doing these lives(Ive only seen what's here so god knows others there) they are Gona hang the wrong person accidentally in something they 100% won't mean ta. I wish I knew someone close.to them all , ta gauze any real picture of who is who or what

 

[Pastymuncher]

Day1 knew he was dodgy, he is red hot, what for is yet to Unfold...It bloody better unfold , because I need to know what I sensed
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That why I think Brandon+family are the higher up part, he went puff Into thin air.
But if these keep doing these lives(Ive only seen what's here so god knows others there) they are Gona hang the wrong person accidentally in somet
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Funny isnt it not 1 word from Brandon, hes mate, his friend, was there with him all night then suddenly goes quiet? Did Brandon have a black eye or cuts maybe that would incriminate him? Is that why Ayub's so confident because he knows it wasn't him? Maybe Brandon and Jay left the B+B and had an altercation?

 

[Bekika]

Funny isnt it not 1 word from Brandon, hes mate, his friend, was there with him all night then suddenly goes quiet? Did Brandon have a black eye or cuts maybe that would incriminate him? Is that why Ayub's so confident because he knows it wasn't him? Maybe Brandon and Jay left the B+B and had an altercation?

Do you mean Dodgy Podgy Hodgy?

 

[MrsMushroom]

Yeh, he hotfooted it out of Tennyreef the day after he went missing