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Surely this should lead to an even more vigorous examination of Cambridge’s hiring methods and methods of academic scrutiny. They failed him. The media did exactly what they exist to do. I’d love to know what actual support most of these people screaming at anyone who criticised JA offered him beyond a vague tweet.
 
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Not to be confused with Baroness Sue Black, the fantastic former forensic scientist.
Oh, I'm so glad to hear this. I love 'All that Remains' and was gutted to hear that she was apparently a tw*t as she seems very level-headed.

Did not know there were two of them.
 
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The media did exactly what they exist to do.
This exactly. The man held a very prestigious job and was embarking on huge media tour to monetise his story.

I wouldn't want to live in a world where people at the top of the pyramid shouldn't be scrutinised because it may negatively affect them.
 
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Surely this should lead to an even more vigorous examination of Cambridge’s hiring methods and methods of academic scrutiny. They failed him. The media did exactly what they exist to do. I’d love to know what actual support most of these people screaming at anyone who criticised JA offered him beyond a vague tweet.
It should, but I doubt it will.
 
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WTF has this news got to do with Sadiq bleeping Khan? Ugh his virtue signalling is off the scale, he never misses an opportunity.

IMO Sadiq is a classic example of someone promoted way beyond his abilities.
This is a tin hat argument. By that logic, are we going to absolve those held up on criminal charges, who shouldn’t be put through the judicial system, or serve time in [badly run] prisons that create more hardened criminals, because of their mental health? I think we already do.

What if they were to hang themselves in their cell?! Whose fault will that be, Sadiq? The prosecution? The arresting and investigative officers? The media that followed the story? Maybe their victim can blame themselves for pressing charges?!

This is precisely what I was saying before. This is the kind of culture that is being propagated by people like Sadiq Khan, that we do not hold people responsible because of some feigned victimhood, or mental health concern.
It is creating a landslide of unscrupulous people who won’t take accountability for themselves, and they will opportunistically take advantage of this kind of liberalism, so Sadiq can duck off with his self-righteous bull. As per.
 
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As several people here have said, many of us know people who make tit up. And usually we roll our eyes and let them get on with it if it's harmless (like my schoolfriend who pretended she was really a Russian princess and invented extra middle names for herself) or we cut them out of our lives if they are toxic and damaging. If my friend was actively promoting a book about her life growing up in St Petersburg rather than in a dull market town in the home counties, I suspect I'd want to call her out, if I'm being honest.
As you say we've all met these fantasists in our lives who tell tall stories. When I first met him my husband used to have a 'mate' who would lie, bull, con and embellish constantly. I found this man utterly pathetic and got very quickly tired of hearing his rubbish but at least in his case nobody ever really believed him after they'd known him for more than a week because he was like Jay in the Inbetweeners but his relatively small lies in comparison did still have an impact on some people who ended up out of pocket because of him.

Arday got way beyond the level that most of these people achieve in life because of his perceived lack of advantage.
 
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Meanwhile the students who complained about JA's supervision were ignored and blamed for being racist. Their grievances swept under the carpet. Their degrees possibly below the level they were expecting and that would help them progress in the future. They are now going to be further ignored and if investigations are dropped by the universities they will have no further answers. Whilst still being expected to pay off their student loans.

This isnt about racism, this is totally about the establishment ticking boxes and not doing their due diligence. Did JA deserve to die? Of course he didnt. Do those students deserve better of an elite institution such as Cambridge? 100%.
 
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His poor children, what a legacy he leaves for them. Though I hate to ask are we 100% he had children?
I don't think there is any doubt he had children, one will be a young adult. These are the people in his life I had the most sympathy for, even before he chose to end his life.

What frustrates me at the moment are all those people, including tattle grifters Simon Harris and Dr Jessica Taylor, who are now wagging their collective fingers in our faces. Most of them were pretty quiet while JA was alive.
 
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The media did exactly what they exist to do.
The only part of the story which was newsworthy in a classical sense was the spurious police reports against journalists. There's a public interest argument in reporting that. The rest of it is, well, Tattle bait at most.
 
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Most of them were pretty quiet while JA was alive.
Dr Jessica Taylor posts up to 20 times a day. Not once did she mention Jason Arday.

After his death was announced on the BBC she had something up within 20 mins. She claims to have seen this all coming and claimed she was messaging his team previously to help.

Like the death of princess Dickson she left skid marks with how quickly she was to use it to further herself and silencing anyone daring to call her out for the dangerous fantasist she is.
 
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Every single person who enabled Arday to continue to lie, copy, cheat and play the race card throughout his life should take a long hard look at themselves.
They are the ones responsible for his death now the house of cards has collapsed.
The only person responsible for his death is JA himself. Others may have enabled the circumstances leading to him making this choice, but the ultimate responsibility is his.
 
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Surely this should lead to an even more vigorous examination of Cambridge’s hiring methods and methods of academic scrutiny. They failed him. The media did exactly what they exist to do. I’d love to know what actual support most of these people screaming at anyone who criticised JA offered him beyond a vague tweet.
Cambridge is more than willing to subject its employees to scrutiny when it suits them. Its treatment of female staff and those who whistleblow on their behalf is very different to the fawning Arday got.

 
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The only part of the story which was newsworthy in a classical sense was the spurious police reports against journalists. There's a public interest argument in reporting that. The rest of it is, well, Tattle bait at most.
I don't think thats true. He choose to make himself a high profile public figure and appeared on multiple tv shows, made media appearances, wrote a book. He was happy to court the attention till it turned against him.
 
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I don't think thats true. He choose to make himself a high profile public figure and appeared on multiple tv shows, made media appearances, wrote a book. He was happy to court the attention till it turned against him.
Publishing a fabricated autobiography is barely news these days however much you court it. The Salt Path thing didn't have 100s of articles daily for weeks.
 
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I know someone (white, working class) who got into Cambridge years ago via an entrance exam/interview despite A-level grades of A, B & C. They attained a 2:1 degree, so they were obviously academically capable once given the opportunity. I'm not sure if they would get in nowadays, but maybe that's a different discussion based on state vs private school quotas?

On the subject of Jason Arday, it's incredibly tragic that his story has ended this way. I can't help but feel that a degree of blame can be apportioned to many of the parties involved, no matter what 'side' they're on. Of course Arday himself was the architect of his own downfall, but those who enabled and encouraged him in his delusions without doing due dilligence are also culpable (especially Cambridge University). It shouldn't have come to this, but the press and public scrutiny he faced did feel disproportionate at times, especially when compared to someone like Jess Taylor, another fabulist who is far more harmful to the wellbeing of vulnerable people than Arday ever was imo.

I think he compared himself to Icarus in one of the flights of fantasy in his florid autobiography. Seems like it was a self-fulfilling prophecy in that he chose to fly too close to the sun and was ill-equipped to deal with the heat it brought him.

His is a cautionary tale, but unfortunately I feel it's more likely to lead to recriminations being flung around rather than actual reflections by those who could and should have dealt with things better.
I just posted a link to the article where it talks about his own musings that his story could end up being a cautionary tale, like Icarus.
Even the title of his book alludes to an "unfortunate" end, in my opinion - it's like he always sort of knew it could end this way because he was living a lie and the higher his achievements, the more likelihood of being exposed.
I agree it was a self fulfilling prophecy, he even talks about having had suicidal thoughts:

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Publishing a fabricated autobiography is barely news these days however much you court it. The Salt Path thing didn't have 100s of articles daily for weeks.
There was at least one tv documentary detailing the amounts of lies she told about that story. There was plenty of stories about it.
 
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I disagree with this to be honest. They're not entirely responsible, no. But they do need to bear it in mind and make sure they're careful about what they say.
Has any of the media reported anything untrue about Jason Arday.
The only people responsible for this are Jason Arday, any family and friends that enabled him and Cambridge University for encouraging and exploiting his public profile.
This need never have happened if some people had just called him out at a far earlier point in his life.
 
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