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Valiofthedolls

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Slight merail here- I had a mosquito in my bedroom last night, and as I was being EXHAUSTED by that irritating useless little fucker buzzing around, I decided to do some FORENSIC RESEARCH into that other irritating useless one.

Anyway, I learned some interesting things I did not know. TW for SA, r*pe, manipulative bullshit “lovemaking” and complete awfulness. Also long. Skip past if you’re having a nice Sunday and are just in the mood for fun thread frivolity, CHESTERFIELD SOFAS and counting Hellman’s. She’s not worth it.
On 25 July 2016, Jack created an ‘ask me anything’ thread on the site that dost not speak its name here on Tattle. I have screenies for all this which I will not post, but I now know the following. All in her own words so not misquoted by dastardly journalists. (Mods if I’m not allowed to directly quote her, please remove those parts, thank space you and sorry ❤ )

1. That ghastly tone deaf red dress/suit gender photoshoot in The Guardian? Jack directed it herself as a “deliberate expression of femininity and masculinity”

2. Jack ‘falls in love with women, sets up home with them, gets joint bank accounts, makes love all weekend’ (🤢), gets off with “the odd bloke every now and then”.

3. Jack CONFIRMED (without being asked this!) has been engaged three times at this point, and has a “burgeoning ring collection”.

4. While describing all the times she’s mistaken for a man, Jack states she gets “chatted up by gay men in sex shops” and TW:SA was sexually assaulted by one such man an adult store in London (Prowler), who “made a grab for her crotch and got VERY angry when there was nothing of note there”.

5. Jack woke up to TWENTY SEVEN whole google alerts that morning and would “give my kingdom not to be as gossiped about as I think I am”

6. TW sexual assault Jack has been “r*ped twice and sexually assaulted several times”. ‘One r*pe by a man, one by a woman, two sexual assaults by women’ Says this is a “pretty crap back catalogue” .

7. Breadcrumbs HEAVILY that she is intersex, saying she is “female enough to carry a child, male enough to have intimate physical abnormalities and an alarmingly high amount of testosterone”

8. ‘Turns down 95% of requests for interviews, never seeks them out, frequently makes her social media private, and left London to escape the bubble’. “There’s an awful lot I keep in”

9. Sets up an ask me anything, people ask her questions, she doesn’t like them, gets aggressive, it’s pointed out to her that she initiated the entire discussion about herself that did not need to even happen, responds stating that this perfectly LITERAL point “smacks of you were asking for it” and says it’s TW:SA “The kind of language we hear about, say miniskirts and walking home alone and , r*pists”

10. She sets this up and keeps responding at a time she has her little boy with her. In the middle of it they go to the cinema to watch the BFG. She’s still replying to the thread throughout the film, and still going the next day.

There’s more, some of it utterly appalling.I will not post more because I don’t want to derail the thread, and that’s more than enough to b getting along with. She is utterly objectionable and I do not believe she is capable of changing in any way. On the plus side she didn’t once claim abject poverty or destitution and didn’t ask everyone to send her lovely lovely cashos. So there’s that.
 
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Yel

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Google maps has had cycling as an option for at least the last 10 years🤷‍♀️
 
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jenny2603

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How about now, either take your fancy, Jen?
Hitler put me right off the Nazis. I don't want to derail the thread but he just didn't seem like a nice man to me. As for fisting, All Creatures Great and Small put me right off it from an early age and I've never revised my view.
 
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Bugger13

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Prepare for a chaos, all. Jack’s stabilisers will shear off on a roundabout, causing her to catapult into the road, smashing all the 333 bones (she’s unique) in her face to dust. It will all be the fault of a motorist who told her to shut her legs & that pedalling is unladylike. She will have pulled up the sleeves of her £99 sweaty Betty cycling Lycra fluorescent top to show him that she’s an edgy, tattooed maverick who doesn’t give a shit and caused a wobble as she simultaneously aimed a kick at his shins (it’s a convertible car if people will insist on pedantry) whilst shouting ‘Eton Mess’. She will then wobble away at 13mph but due to her tiny stature and arthritis, be unable to correct the pendulous swing of her bollocks unruly labia and crash, with a wail, a hoot and a wobble, into the roundabout. Everyone will clap but Jack, the actual victim, will wail and curse the fact that the nhs is underfunded and there is no way that all her bones can be rearranged back into a recognisable face. On the upside, she will claim that the accident shrunk her head, inflated her lips and caused her waist to shrink by 13 inches. She will then become a campaigner for stabilisers for all and declare ‘roundabouts are scary my darling, but so am I’ and be whisked into the House of Commons for an audience with Rishi where she will wear her Gypsy Lee glasses & hold a ring binder whilst nodding sagely and picking her nose.
 
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Jack help me please. I went to my local 🔺 Asda specifically for a vegan burrito today and they were sold out so I had to buy a sweet potato katsu curry instead. This is obvious discrimination as I'm a disabled, could you have a word with Mr Asda himself? Thankyou x
 
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Sweetcouchpotato

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Have just googled “what is intersex” and read the attached from planned parenthood who afaik are a reputable source, between the attached and the unruly labia it sounds as if she’s describing having testicles? I just can’t understand why you’d ever make this up, so surely it must be true? I don’t understand why this marginalised ID isn’t rolled out more especially if it’s likely one of the only true ones?
I'm an actual intersex person and if Jack was ever confirmed as "one of us" I don't know what I'd do....but I just think it's bollocks, not her literal bollocks, just figurative.

So many generic pick mes claim to be intersex these days, usually with stories that are obviously fake to real intersex people, often based on bullshit like "I'm amab but I have women's intuition and hate football" or "I'm afab but I gain muscle when I work out and I don't like wearing heels". It's so common for people who navel gaze themselves into ID'ing as trans to claim they're intersex in a misguided attempt to validate their feelings.
 
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moldwarp

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They need to go for the 'world's most boring con artist you’ve never heard of' angle.
I think there's also a gendered element to her grifting that makes her very triggering to women and makes it harder for men to spot her grift. OK this is just a nascent thought and it involves sweeping generalities so with that as a disclaimer hear me out on this one.

A lot of what Jack does is what I would class as classic Regina George Mean Girls behaviour: things like ED-baiting, suicide baiting, SA baiting, sad-fishing, DARVO, manipulative breadcrumbing, sub-tweeting, encouraging pile-ons - all involve psychological warfare of a sort that women are traditionally more socialised into employing and noticing. I think that's why she has such an army of neckbeards (and I'm pretty sure, on zero hard evidence, that they're mostly male) who just cannot see how psychologically triggering she is.

This is why something like The Sun, which unlike the Sun on Sunday, has a mostly male readership, quite well represented in ABC1 but mostly CDE2, it's the paper that's in the breakroom on building sites and in greasy spoon cafes, their readers just wouldn't care so much?

It's also why her grift is so difficult to call out, because it's subtle and cumulative - it's the type of psychological warfare that women and girls have been socialised into for centuries.

the only'hard' things from a male commissioning editors' perspective (and most commissioning editors are still male, across all newspaper groups) is the Patreon and Teemill, and without hard evidence that it's grift, ie actual receipts of her income, it's hard to make it stand up as a story.

I know this isn't what we wanna hear but she really is best called out by female bloggers like Awfully Molly, because a blog provides the longform platform, and I daresay it's mostly women who really recognise what she's up to, cos of how we've been socialised in our sexist society.
 
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Valiofthedolls

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I know Lazarus asked on the last thread, and I have too, so I went looking for a better understanding of Jack’s Patreon and reward fulfillment and I’ve managed to pull some stuff together from across the years in Tattle.
If anything has anything else to add, can you let me know in a spoiler and I’ll put it all together properly all in one post. Lots of screenies, thanks to all fraus who originally captured these. There are lots of you, past and current.

It’s long so I’m going to put it in a couple of spoilers. I learned A LOT!!!
Jack’s first mention of Patreon I can find is from our Wiki. April 2017. Note that this coincides with a beg because she ‘cannot pay her rent’.
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At some point between then and May 11 2020 (can fraus help narrow this?) Jack closes comments on her Patreon. A frau posts this on May 11 in response to a comment by a frau that they suspect Jack’s Patreon is much like Jack’s Kickstarter.

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When Jack comes here in thread 31 on June 24th 2020 (and it’s CONFIRMED it was definitely her), she is explicitly clear that money via Patreon is not a donation. “PEOPLE GET STUFF FOR IT”. Says she “probably needs to review her tiers at some point and update the blurb”. Also says she is not poor anymore.

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On 24 July 2020, Jack wipes a shit ton of tweets and suspends her SM handily supplying a link to her Patreon.
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Tattlers go digging
Here are two posts with information about what her tiers were at that point. Note they have changed since then. The top one is gone and the rewards are now different.
Note that despite saying she’s “not poor” a month earlier, the language contains blatant insinuations that subscribing is the only mechanism by which she can ‘stock her larder’.

They also find that at this point, Jack has not updated her page since April Fool’s Day 2018. She hadn’t been fulfilling her rewards because TOO BUSY, but would love to send everyone a free book. That’s it.
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Pissed off squig who apparently got burned by the Kickstarter responds.
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Jack posted this before she LEFT Twitter. Tens of thousands of unread emails. Possibly some from Patreon subscribers not getting rewards.
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In August 2020 a frau notices that Jack has put her prices up.
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As a reminder, Patreon requires that subscribers take non-fulfillment issues to the “Creator”. As to why someone might not just cancel? A squig explained recently
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In November 2020 Jack contacts her Patrons
This is not a publicly available/viewable post. It was shared on Nov 4 by a frau whose friend was a subscriber and gave her permission to do so. The friend hadn’t had her Sept or Oct rewards.

Jack clearly hasn’t been fulfilling rewards but asks people not to say so publicly in a giant woe is me post on Nov 2.
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Later in November, fraus are discussing Patreon and this is posted from Jack’s page. This is from her wall, and was posted on Nov 22 when there is LOTS and LOTS of discussion about her Patreon. (Same frau/mate who was a subscriber posting some stuff with permission)
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A day later?! Jack is suddenly (performatively) sending shit out to Patrons
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This appears to have been short lived. By December she’s telling people not to expect anything they’ve paid for before Christmas. But IT’S NOT HER FAULT AND SHE’S GOT LONG COVID OK?!
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She’s also well enough despite this suffering to go on an individual- level charm offensive with her Patrons.

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Moving on…
As a reminder, this is the last time Jack updated her Patreon page. Nov 23rd 2020 she provided a discount code.
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Fraus have done a lot of digging. A frau also notices this. Those codes were only supplied for 3 months out of 12 in 2020, so it’s not like Patreon codes just dried up after that November
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Of all Patreons who state they haven’t received rewards, this one from Aug 2022 appears to be the latest date anyone has ever claimed to have received anything. Early 2021.
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The squig might be mistaken about the date, but let’s just take that as fact that at least ONE squig did get something in “early 2021”. I don’t think anyone has seen anyone claim to have received a reward any later than this, no subscription discount codes since Nov 2020 and only three months of discount code before that in 2020 (not that there’s anything to buy on her website to give her even more of your cash anyway).
FINALLY
Just if you’re interested and so you don’t have to click on her Patreon itself
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And that’s where we are today. She’s never fulfilled it properly, knows they aren’t donations, doesn’t give a fuck, isn’t going to do anything about it. Oh wait, I forgot. “It’s coming”

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APOLS for any typos as always, I’m on my phone, and a HUGE HUGE HUGE thank you to all those who captured those original screenies. PS noticed this mistake in the Wiki we need to fix. It was set up in April 2017 at the latest
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The carlin

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Did anyone post this yet? It's in response to AMs Saint or scammer piece. Squig is a barrister with 57k followers and specialises n consumer law :oops:

If I were Jack, the 'you should' bit would make me very nervous

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MancBee

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I don't know what has possessed me this morning, but I had a delivery in a box and my mind went on a tangent.

I went to the squatty potty website and got the dimensions of the £57.99 one that Jack has (is that in the spenny list?). I used my not insubstantial crafting skills to fashion a pretty good replica.

You can all guess what I did next, I don't need to spell it out. Don't let my experience colour your views though. It may suit you, but it wasn't for me.

How can I describe the outcome, other than to say I shall not be forking out almost £60 for a real one? Without being crude, the results were not exactly satisfactory and the toilet needed far more cleaning than is usual.

 
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Valiofthedolls

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It’s been:

699 days since Jack last updated her Patreon

278 days since Jack’s most recent request for donations directly into her personal PayPal account to pay for repairs to her website; repairs which have not yet occurred.

275 days since Jack claimed to begin work on the VBI (that was going to “take the weekend”)

263 days since Teemill monies began going to “other charities” with zero updates given

163 days since Jack crowdfunded legal fees for an alleged libel case directly into her personal PayPal account with no evidence of any legal action subsequently taken.

52 days since Jack promised her Patrons an update on the lack of rewards for almost two years and her refusal to address this.
 
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MooBelle

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Hello, my name is Jack Monroe and I need someone in my life to know I've started cycling. It could be because I asked them for a lift and they told me to ride my bike because they were sick of me taking the piss and I had a tantrum.
Or it may be because my ex fiance has a new partner and I need to trick her into talking to me.
It could be one of many reasons but because I'm a massive narcissistic twat I need to broadcast it over Twitter.

(Pssst, it's not really Jack, it's me, Moo)
 
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October is a really good time of year to get into cycling. Well done, Jack. 👍🏻🙄
She hasn't just got in to cycling, her next tweet will be about how she's been cycling for years, she taught LJC to cycle, she used to go on wee bike rides around Devon and Greece, with people throwing rotten fruit at her for being a third generation immigrant and listening to Hole's album and wearing ah fuck it I can't carry this on.
 
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Valiofthedolls

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Fuck me, is she trying to steal Raquel? If not, why’s she going on a date dressed like Del Boy? PS Jack, you forgot your ugly pigskin hat.
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Mr Krabs

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Oh this? I cut my own hair with a rusty pair of wee scissors that have been passed down through the family. Then I managed to have a little wash with some rain that collected on a smol leaf outside, using a squished berry that was overlooked by the brambly mice as a shower gel. Then I took a wee bit of soot from the old coal fireplace and made some make up, while copper and content worked diligently sewing me a pretty outfit from the scraps of some old curtains and turning a pumpkin into an Uber.
 
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