Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #208 Dupee, or not Dupee, that is the question

[jazz-2707]

And, last thought. If your own young children (Ella, then what, 10) are begging you not to drink on their birthday so they can actually have a nice day, then you clearly, clearly have a drinking problem. That’s not normal. The delusional land she lives in, omg. I would not have recovered from hearing that conversation. I certainly wouldn’t have called my kid a witch drunk or not. Your kid wakes up on their birthday and the most important thing to them is you DONT get shitfaced. I honestly don’t know how she tolerates having this played back to her, I would shrivel up in a cloud of depression over completely failing life.

 

[Tabitha D]

And, last thought. If your own young children (Ella, then what, 10) are begging you not to drink on their birthday so they can actually have a nice day, then you clearly, clearly have a drinking problem. That’s not normal. The delusional land she lives in, omg. I would not have recovered from hearing that conversation. I certainly wouldn’t have called my kid a witch drunk or not. Your kid wakes up on their birthday and the most important thing to them is you DONT get shitfaced. I honestly don’t know how she tolerates having this played back to her, I would shrivel up in a cloud of depression over completely failing life.

Exactly. That shows she doesn’t “handle” her drinking at all well. I don’t think a kid is going to be bothered TBH if their parent is just a bit relaxed, happy or fun when they’ve had a drink or two. But I think Alice is well beyond that point. Ella’s comments suggest that Alice is a mean, angry, aggressive drunk, or drinks to the point of incapacity, or (let’s face it) both. I think if you’re having to call Gloria / an ambulance because your mother has passed out in the shower (just one example we know of), that’s a serious issue.

 

[KikiFromNy]

Thanks for new thread @AsYouLikeIt and congratulations for great thread title @Ametrine

I would also welcome a previous thread summary, as I too missed most of it.

It is with such a painful heart (and body today) that I lost my Tilly last night, my beautiful girl, aged 15 1/2. I got her at roughly 5-6 months old from a rescue, she had been found in a city scavenging, she was skin & bones. I went to the rescue - not even with the intention of getting a doggie that day, my friends mum volunteered there & we popped in to see her as we were passing in the car. We went into a large enclosed area where some dogs were being exercised/socialised & this black/tan pup ran up to me & wouldn't leave me, she came home a few days later. This was just after my divorce had been finalised & id bought my new house. She sadly needed a leg amputated about a year later, but it never help her back one bit.
She just couldn't stand up & I knew she was in pain from the noises she was making & she had twisted herself in a shape I've never seen before. I was insistent that it be done at home, I didn't want the extra stress it would be on her to take her to the vet surgery.
It's awful, I feel terrible at being the person to agree to ending the life of someone I love so much, but also feel it's the last kindness I could give her after her unconditional love & trust, the trust took a wee while.
Sorry for merail.

Spoiler: Tilly

I am so sorry. I have been in rescue work for 30+ years. At one point, I had a very large clowder and have done behavior studies with one of the largest vet universities. I have done vet tech work for years and even now get called for help with behavior.

What I had to tell myself over the years is that the reason the Cat Gods take them from us so soon is because there are so many more that need a good home that we can provide. And as I read your heartbreaking words, I know that any creature you love has the best love and home. Holding you in my thoughts and sweetheart.

And Alice's cuntiness has increased a thousand fold since seeing Bianca and Ioan enjoying themselves despite her attempts to stop them.

Oh and that was hardly a Mediterranean cruise. That looked like your average boat I see on our lakes everyday.

 

[WinterSolstice]

WUT

 

[Loveu2]

Because going scorched earth works out so well.

 

[Lotus Flower]

Because going scorched earth works out so well.

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Such projection from Alice

Always the same song and dance from her… when she has nothing else to say, she alludes to (nonexistent) behind the scenes information that she mysteriously never posts, or files in court. And the magical thinker FMs buy it every time.

 

[OldBookish]

‘A very big difference between what he is saying and the truth…’ Yes, because one day Ioan will publicly disclose all the years of abuse, raging tempers, emotional manipulation, drunken idiocy, threats and demolition of confidence not just a few instances.

 

[MagicDragon]

Thanks for new thread @AsYouLikeIt and congratulations for great thread title @Ametrine

I would also welcome a previous thread summary, as I too missed most of it.

It is with such a painful heart (and body today) that I lost my Tilly last night, my beautiful girl, aged 15 1/2. I got her at roughly 5-6 months old from a rescue, she had been found in a city scavenging, she was skin & bones. I went to the rescue - not even with the intention of getting a doggie that day, my friends mum volunteered there & we popped in to see her as we were passing in the car. We went into a large enclosed area where some dogs were being exercised/socialised & this black/tan pup ran up to me & wouldn't leave me, she came home a few days later. This was just after my divorce had been finalised & id bought my new house. She sadly needed a leg amputated about a year later, but it never help her back one bit.
She just couldn't stand up & I knew she was in pain from the noises she was making & she had twisted herself in a shape I've never seen before. I was insistent that it be done at home, I didn't want the extra stress it would be on her to take her to the vet surgery.
It's awful, I feel terrible at being the person to agree to ending the life of someone I love so much, but also feel it's the last kindness I could give her after her unconditional love & trust, the trust took a wee while.
Sorry for merail.

Sorry that you're going through this Tilly, I know exactly how you feel as I have lost two beautiful, amazing dogs in the last year, one in October and one in February. I know you are inconsolable at the moment and it hurts so much but it does get a bit easier as time passes. It sounds like Tilly chose you and you gave her a very good and long life full of love. What more could a dog ask for?.

 

[Loveu2]

I don't see one truth here. Best mom ever, kind, stunning? Nope.

 

[chasingsunsets11]

I don't see one truth here. Best mom ever, kind, stunning? Nope.

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So in conclusion, she loves herself. Congrats, Alice!

 

[Loveu2]

So in conclusion, she loves herself. Congrats, Alice!

She certainly does. Claiming to be a pretty blonde.

 

[TheDragonWithAFlagon]

You know that big, shiny,, sparkly thing on her finger the other day?

Handy way of concealing cash. Especially if you claim it was a gift instead of a tit attempt at laundering money that would be taken into account in a financial settlement.

'Oh, that? Had for ages. Can I prove ownership and price? Of course not, it was a gift from a friend. You wouldn't know him, he launders money in another school'

 

[beck123]

I love it. They don't engage their brains at all. If B is middle-aged, that would make Alice positively geriatric. Oh boy

Bianca is only middle aged if a teenager is posting. Just saying.

 

[NotAgain?]

And, last thought. If your own young children (Ella, then what, 10) are begging you not to drink on their birthday so they can actually have a nice day, then you clearly, clearly have a drinking problem. That’s not normal. The delusional land she lives in, omg. I would not have recovered from hearing that conversation. I certainly wouldn’t have called my kid a witch drunk or not. Your kid wakes up on their birthday and the most important thing to them is you DONT get shitfaced. I honestly don’t know how she tolerates having this played back to her, I would shrivel up in a cloud of depression over completely failing life.

I have always had a good drink after my kid's birthday parties - after theyve gone to bed. 4 hours of catering and mayhem, keeping everyone happy and safe and I need a few. I get the feeling Alice missed the party part out and went straight to the wine. Otherwise her daughter wouldnt have even noticed.

 

[lulooo]

@IHateHadargoyle thank you so much for your kindness xxx you had your heart dog, I'm so sorry for your loss, he is beside you still, grief is our love with nowhere to go xxx. It's weird, I feel like I've heard Tilly bark a couple of times. I've picked out the type of urn I would like.

Right, I know this will sound nuts, or untruthful, but I promise it happened.

Years ago, I was 15/16 & one of my friends, plus her mum & auntie were really into going to psychic nights, they asked me to go one night with them. There was approximately 100 people in the audience, psychic lady was on a little stage, it wasn't 1:1, near the end of it the psychic lady asked if the name Nelly meant anything to anyone, I stayed quiet (scared to speak in front of everyone), but then she honed in on me. She said that whoever the message was for was having refurbishments done at home - lighting wise & an extension - which I was. My pal kept nudging me to speak up, so again the psychic said "does the name Nelly mean anything to anyone), so I piped up and said "yes, she was my horse", everyone lolled of course, but she was then able to talk in detail about our house & the little Shetland pony who was still alive & was Nelly's pal - they had a love/hate relationship, they were like an old married couple (this was before social media etc. It was extremely odd, plus my friend & her mum were well miffed (jokingly) that I got a message, and they hadn't ever, despite them having gone to a few of the psychic medium nights there.

It still makes me feel a combination of weird/really?, warm & gives me a little chuckle

Hugs to you xxx

Ps - I voted AE could keep her trap shut re Ioan/Bianca for 3 days. #FAIL

You are not nuts dear @tilly27, there are more things in heaven and earth etc, sorry can’t remember the rest of the quote. I really believe that our loved ones never really leave us, as we can feel their love around us when we need it

 

[SusieTCones]

Because going scorched earth works out so well.

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“It will come out one day.”

You’ve been saying that for YEARS now, Alice. What are you waiting for? Can you give me a date so I can mark it down in my calendar?

Otherwise, put up or shut up.

 

[lulooo]

Me too. I really hope B is a heiress lol and has plenty of money to track everyone down. Which can absolutely be done,

Spoiler: For Tilly

I know that unbearable pain Tilly and I’m sending you big hugs. I’ve always thought that this saying sums it all up and that is how I live with my pups, in the moment, enjoying every new day with them, right up to the very end.
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I love that, it sums everything up about sharing our lives with our fur family. There is a reason that dog is God spelled backwards

 

[Ally Pally]

WUT


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Noooo do not defile (channelling Loopy here) my RHCPs

 

[chasingsunsets11]

Ioan posted the same picture with this caption:

 

[SC_love]

And, last thought. If your own young children (Ella, then what, 10) are begging you not to drink on their birthday so they can actually have a nice day, then you clearly, clearly have a drinking problem. That’s not normal. The delusional land she lives in, omg. I would not have recovered from hearing that conversation. I certainly wouldn’t have called my kid a witch drunk or not. Your kid wakes up on their birthday and the most important thing to them is you DONT get shitfaced. I honestly don’t know how she tolerates having this played back to her, I would shrivel up in a cloud of depression over completely failing life.

I couldn’t like this post anymore, you’ve hit the nail on the head. She writes that incident off as a trivial, single occurrence and has no shame about it. I would die inside every time I thought of it, one off / drunk or not.