Horse rider frustration!

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Anyone else dislike horse riders on the roads? Stick to bloody fields !!
I'm sure a lot of horseriders would love to "stick to fields" but unfortunately they cannot just ride anywhere! A lot of the time they have to ride on roads to access the bridleways.
 
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There is one virtue of horses traversing country [email protected]: they eat straw and shit, thereby provide excellent free activator for a compost pit.

The downside, however, is that too many of these riders can often be young teenagers, and I frankly trust them little more on a big horse, than I would seeing them behind the wheel of a car. More of concern is that the Highway Code is very loose in its application to horse riders.

Old traditions die hard, I guess. :(
 
There is one virtue of horses traversing country [email protected]: they eat straw and shit, thereby provide excellent free activator for a compost pit.

The downside, however, is that too many of these riders can often be young teenagers, and I frankly trust them little more on a big horse, than I would seeing them behind the wheel of a car. More of concern is that the Highway Code is very loose in its application to horse riders.

Old traditions die hard, I guess. :(
In what way is the Highway Code loose in its application to horse riders?


There is the BHS Ride Safe Award (I think this used to be called the Road Safety and Riding Test).
 
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You would use that argument to suggest that a horse rider can use a motorway, which was built over fields?
As a rider I have experienced some awful drivers! Iam always curtious and follow the high way code. Lots of drivers do not realise the catastrophic results of zooming past, too close. Obviously no-one with half a brain cell would condone or suggest to ride on a motor way. But horses were used long before cars. It's not always possible to avoid them (roads)
 
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In what way is the Highway Code loose in its application to horse riders?


There is the BHS Ride Safe Award (I think this used to be called the Road Safety and Riding Test).

And there is this extract, which is slightly longer: Highway Code (British Horse Society).

So please show me where in the Code it states that:

1) Riders under the age of 17 must always be escorted by a rider of 17 years or over who holds a full UK driving licence
2) A Rider under the age of 17 shall not ride a horse on a public road which is any taller than the Rider
3) No Rider of any age shall ride a horse on a public road unless they have first passed a horse-riding proficiency test

I look forward to your substantive, unequivocal replies on all three points. :)

As a rider I have experienced some awful drivers! Iam always curtious and follow the high way code. Lots of drivers do not realise the catastrophic results of zooming past, too close. Obviously no-one with half a brain cell would condone or suggest to ride on a motor way. But horses were used long before cars. It's not always possible to avoid them (roads)
Please answer the three points above..,:)
 
Nope, don’t bother me. I’ve grown up in the country and will always slow down and give horses plenty of room. Can’t understsnd why it would annoy anyone to do otherwise.
 
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And there is this extract, which is slightly longer: Highway Code (British Horse Society).

So please show me where in the Code it states that:

1) Riders under the age of 17 must always be escorted by a rider of 17 years or over who holds a full UK driving licence
2) A Rider under the age of 17 shall not ride a horse on a public road which is any taller than the Rider
3) No Rider of any age shall ride a horse on a public road unless they have first passed a horse-riding proficiency test

I look forward to your substantive, unequivocal replies on all three points. :)



Please answer the three points above..,:)
[/QUOTE OP was saying horse riders should stick to fields. Not about the ages of riders and the rules and regulations. I'm an old get so I was talking about it from my view point. You have hand picked a couple of points. I also can't imagine all care drivers adhere to all the highway code rules ridgedly..do they?
 
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Hmm I'm on the fence again 😂

When I lived in a city and went through country side areas, I'd get more annoyed by horse riders.
However I now live in the arse end of nowhere and have horses practically in my back garden (seriously, one came and gave me a nudge when I was hanging washing out today, I 💩 myself because didn't hear him coming!) Everyone around here horse rides, and is very courteous and follows the highway code. If I'm driving I go super slow as to not spook the horses, stay far back and when the riders can they generally move to one side when safe and let the cars past ☺
 
OP was saying horse riders should stick to fields. Not about the ages of riders and the rules and regulations. I'm an old get so I was talking about it from my view point. You have hand picked a couple of points. I also can't imagine all care drivers adhere to all the highway code rules ridgedly..do they?
I have extracted your response which you posted inside the bracket. If you are using the BB Code, you should post outside [...] ;)

Now as to your points:

1) You write above as if you were previously responding to the OP, In fact, this is what you wrote, and it was addressed to me:

As a rider I have experienced some awful drivers! Iam always curtious and follow the high way code. Lots of drivers do not realise the catastrophic results of zooming past, too close. Obviously no-one with half a brain cell would condone or suggest to ride on a motor way. But horses were used long before cars. It's not always possible to avoid them (roads)

Writing about bad car drivers in this context is a deflection, Your main poiint, which I rebutted previously was

Exactly. Plus horses were around long before cars were.

And what I was saying, and still say, is that the fact horses preceded the motor car is no argument in itself to aver that the horse must always take precedence over a car. This is why I have pointed out 3 simple rules which do not exist in the Highway Code for nags. They should exist, because as you know, or should know, a large horse is potentially every bit as lethal as a car, An uncontrolled or improperly controlled horse can cause a dangerous accident., And yet, it is quite clear that this country does not apply the same high standard to control and governance of an horse that it expects from a car driver.

Worryingly, your true response seems to be that it shall be,because it always has been.
 
Nope, don’t bother me. I’ve grown up in the country and will always slow down and give horses plenty of room. Can’t understsnd why it would annoy anyone to do otherwise.
Because they're twats.

I try and avoid roads because it's not the most fun for horse or rider. But as others say no you can't always avoid it.
 
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I have extracted your response which you posted inside the bracket. If you are using the BB Code, you should post outside [...] ;)

Now as to your points:

1) You write above as if you were previously responding to the OP, In fact, this is what you wrote, and it was addressed to me:

As a rider I have experienced some awful drivers! Iam always curtious and follow the high way code. Lots of drivers do not realise the catastrophic results of zooming past, too close. Obviously no-one with half a brain cell would condone or suggest to ride on a motor way. But horses were used long before cars. It's not always possible to avoid them (roads)

Writing about bad car drivers in this context is a deflection, Your main poiint, which I rebutted previously was

Exactly. Plus horses were around long before cars were.

And what I was saying, and still say, is that the fact horses preceded the motor car is no argument in itself to aver that the horse must always take precedence over a car. This is why I have pointed out 3 simple rules which do not exist in the Highway Code for nags. They should exist, because as you know, or should know, a large horse is potentially every bit as lethal as a car, An uncontrolled or improperly controlled horse can cause a dangerous accident., And yet, it is quite clear that this country does not apply the same high standard to control and governance of an horse that it expects from a car driver.

Worryingly, your true response seems to be that it shall be,because it always has been.
It's actually quite simple. Horse riders should be curtious to drivers who are curtious to them. Car drivers should always pass wide and slow. Horse riders should then signal thanks. Horse and car drivers should adhere to the rules of the road. Both are dangerous if not handled with due care and attention. No one has more rights than the other really. Yes i did say horses have been around longer, they have. But surely both can rub along together if they follow the simple rules? I can't comment on every driver or rider. Both with probably flout the rules. But you can't expect those who do use the roads properly to be penalised? It's a sweeping statement that riders should stick to fields it's not possible for lots of us.
 
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No. I live in a suburb. Quite a big built up one but less than five minutes to lovely rural countryside. I often pass horses to and from work and always slow down for them and leave as much room as I can when passing.

My daughter is allergic to horses but my son works at a stables. This is problematic and he has to strip outside and clothing straight in the washing machine. He uses it as an excuse not to drive his sister anywhere though as his car is full of hay and hair.
 
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Believe me........as a horse rider we really do wish we didn’t have to go on the roads either. We literally take our life in our hands sometimes to do it and access safe off-road riding. A horse can spook sideways in the blink of an eye, that added to a driver going too fast and too close equals a fatal car accident, for the horse definitely and possibly the rider or driver.

So the answer to your question is yes, as horse riders we too get irritated that we have to use roads where people drive too fast and too close.
 
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I'm sure a lot of horseriders would love to "stick to fields" but unfortunately they cannot just ride anywhere! A lot of the time they have to ride on roads to access the bridleways.
Pay road tax then you belters

Believe me........as a horse rider we really do wish we didn’t have to go on the roads either. We literally take our life in our hands sometimes to do it and access safe off-road riding. A horse can spook sideways in the blink of an eye, that added to a driver going too fast and too close equals a fatal car accident, for the horse definitely and possibly the rider or driver.

So the answer to your question is yes, as horse riders we too get irritated that we have to use roads where people drive too fast and too close.
Exactly and you’ll all blame the drivers! Why should we slow down on our roads? And animal belongs in the field ortherwise you’d see everyone riding horses around. Up there with cyclists you lot
 
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