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Lanavalentine

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I’m so sorry. It’s so shit. It’s just the way it is, and it’s unfair on so many people, so please try not to take it to heart.

I personally don’t think shared ownership works for most people anyway. It can be quite difficult to sell on and move up the ladder.

If I were in your position, I’d be doing three things (apologies if you’re already doing this):

- saving as hard as possible; looking to cut down outgoings in general to get bank accounts looking healthy

- looking at my career prospects and financial options. What will your salary look like in five years? If it’s not going to increase much, can you look at other career options? How can you earn your best salary?

- looking at places other than London to live. So many cities in the UK can offer an equally vibrant lifestyle. Could you move to a cheaper city?

The final thing, which is a very big thing and definitely doesn’t work for everyone, is to consider trying to buy a property with a friend. I have female friends who got on the property ladder in London by doing this. It requires legal input and a lot of trust, but it can be done. I am still not sure your salary would be enough in London though, unfortunately, unless your friend earns a lot more, which might cause issues down the line really.

I know it’s shit. It’s a fucking crime, to be honest. It makes me so angry how an average wage cannot buy a house in the majoritt of the country. Everyone has to make sacrifices and be clever about their longterm prospects, and that’s probably even more important if you’re looking to buy alone.

Good luck x

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Please don’t compare yourself to influencers who make loads of money and have bought property young. They are NOT the norm and if you have a profession you are better future-proofed than them when their influencer bubble bursts!

Also, 30 is young and your parents won’t understand because it was SO different in their day. Houses were fairly priced then. You have so much time, and basically 90% of people your age are in the same boat. Hang tight and just be as financially savvy as possible.
 
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BettyCrockerr

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I think I was fooled with the promise of shared ownership, where you don't need to get a full mortgage. It said open to anyone earning under 90k, what they fail to say is that most of the time it's people earning over 50k, alone or combined. I don't have that alone or combined. If I was with someone else earning the same as me, I could buy.

I currently live in London and have for the past 4 years. I work in libraries and most of the jobs are here, the ones that pay better at least. I like London living, when life is 'normal' I'm big into going to museums, galleries, theatre, gigs etc which just don't happen in most other places. As I'm single that's what I fill my time with and I don't want to give it up. I guess I'll just have to keep renting for now.
I can absolutely assure you that in most major cities in the UK there is a very vibrant culture of museums/theatre/gigs etc etc etc - I promise, there is a whole world outside of London!!!!! Have you ever lived anywhere else? Or visited any other city in the UK?!!!
 
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sleepflowers

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I have worked myself into a right state and it's not even midday, so I hope this makes sense!

I am turning 30 next year and have been single all my life. My parents have been pushing me to look at buying somewhere of my own rather than renting, for my own security and to have a bit more freedom. I would love to decorate and have a cat as I am really lonely.

I am looking to buy in London (I know) as I enjoy living here and most of my career opportunities are here. Currently in a full time permanent position paying 25k with no debt/credit issues (minus student loans). I may have access to a deposit from inheritance, so I've been looking into shared ownership etc, which I know I'm really lucky to be able to do.

However, the luck stops there...everywhere I've investigated, even for a 1 bedroom small flat, wants a 'minimum income' of around 50k+. There is no way I could achieve that without a partner in the next 10-15 years. It feels like I am being penalised for being single and it's just set off a load of my insecurities: 'Why am I so useless for not getting a boyfriend? Is it because I'm unattractive? Will I ever be happy and less lonely? Why did I not choose a higher salary profession?'

Can anyone offer comfort/words of wisdom? I feel like I will either be renting forever and not enjoying the privileges of ownership, or owning somewhere where I didn't really want to live. This is not helping my depression spiral :( Why are single women constantly penalised for everything?
 
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Begborrowsteal

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I’m single and I’m saving for a house deposit, on my own. Moved back in with my Mum after my relationship broke down last year, and decided to save for a home. I’m on a PhD student stipend so I’m limited in what I can afford to save, but I’m adding to my LISA every month without fail minimum £300. I don’t care how long it takes me. I’m hoping post PhD I’ll get a decent paying job so I’m able to save more/rent cheaply somewhere.

London prices are crazy. I’ve always wanted to live in London but there’s no way I could afford to buy or rent there. I live in West Yorkshire and some of the prices here are maddening. Ex council houses near me are going for £250k plus.

I have no financial advice but good luck. I’m single and saving. It can be done.
The ex council near me, lovely little homes, are going for up to 500k. Sickening.
 
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BettyCrockerr

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I have worked myself into a right state and it's not even midday, so I hope this makes sense!

I am turning 30 next year and have been single all my life. My parents have been pushing me to look at buying somewhere of my own rather than renting, for my own security and to have a bit more freedom. I would love to decorate and have a cat as I am really lonely.

I am looking to buy in London (I know) as I enjoy living here and most of my career opportunities are here. Currently in a full time permanent position paying 25k with no debt/credit issues (minus student loans). I may have access to a deposit from inheritance, so I've been looking into shared ownership etc, which I know I'm really lucky to be able to do.

However, the luck stops there...everywhere I've investigated, even for a 1 bedroom small flat, wants a 'minimum income' of around 50k+. There is no way I could achieve that without a partner in the next 10-15 years. It feels like I am being penalised for being single and it's just set off a load of my insecurities: 'Why am I so useless for not getting a boyfriend? Is it because I'm unattractive? Will I ever be happy and less lonely? Why did I not choose a higher salary profession?'

Can anyone offer comfort/words of wisdom? I feel like I will either be renting forever and not enjoying the privileges of ownership, or owning somewhere where I didn't really want to live. This is not helping my depression spiral :( Why are single women constantly penalised for everything?
When it comes to home ownership, most single people on a salary of 25K are never going to be able to buy anything in London. Man or woman. 25K is a pretty low salary and in London, it’s even lower. Unfortunately if you are really keen on buying a property you will need to compromise on the location and look outside of London and the south/south east. Unfortunately that’s just the way it is 🤷🏼‍♀️

why not look at other areas of the country that are far Cheaper but still have that city vibe? Bristol? Manchester? Or even further north into Scotland?
What is it that you do for a living & what aspects of living in London do you like best? Where do you currently live?
 
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megsmagoo

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I’d avoid shared ownership if possible, most people I have spoken to have struggled with selling and say they feel trapped but there might be other more positive stories.

I feel you though, a single friend of mine bought a flat while she was single but had a 50k deposit and had been saving for 10 years! Would outside of London be an option? Some really nice towns in a commutable distance🙂
 
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Giggling Squid

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Regardless of deposit, as a single person on £25,000 I doubt you’d be able to get a mortgage big enough to buy anything for n London. The most you’d be able to borrow would be £110/120k...

I would really consider relocating, and/or exploring how you could increase your income.

Having said that, owning property isn’t everything. We bought 18 months ago, but I miss the security of knowing that if eg the boiler broke, it would be fixed for us. On a tight budget while we saved, renting worked for us
 
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justheretoread99

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I currently live in London and have for the past 4 years. I work in libraries and most of the jobs are here, the ones that pay better at least. I like London living, when life is 'normal' I'm big into going to museums, galleries, theatre, gigs etc which just don't happen in most other places. As I'm single that's what I fill my time with and I don't want to give it up. I guess I'll just have to keep renting for now.
I’m from Yorkshire and we have some amazing cities up here, York, Sheffield, Leeds all have amazing city vibes, festivals, museums and exhibitions. We’re only 50 minutes away from Manchester by train and 1 hour 30 minutes from London by train.

If you want to stay in London you’re going to have to pay London prices. If you don’t want to pay London prices you’re going to have to look elsewhere.

Dont worry that you’re single. Nothing is wrong with you ❤ Your time will come. Normally when you’re least expecting it. Just concentrate on saving as much as you can in the mean time. It’s hard buying a house alone, but not impossible you just have to be realistic and sensible.
 
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under the ivy

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I’m single and I’m saving for a house deposit, on my own. Moved back in with my Mum after my relationship broke down last year, and decided to save for a home. I’m on a PhD student stipend so I’m limited in what I can afford to save, but I’m adding to my LISA every month without fail minimum £300. I don’t care how long it takes me. I’m hoping post PhD I’ll get a decent paying job so I’m able to save more/rent cheaply somewhere.

London prices are crazy. I’ve always wanted to live in London but there’s no way I could afford to buy or rent there. I live in West Yorkshire and some of the prices here are maddening. Ex council houses near me are going for £250k plus.

I have no financial advice but good luck. I’m single and saving. It can be done.
 
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Platformcrocs

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I agree you should look at options outside of London. I bought my flat a few years ago in Scotland and at the time I earned 22k. It was under 100k so the mortgage repayments were about 350 a month. There's no way I could have bought a property London or the South East, although I didn't live there to begin with.

It is a huge achievement to buy your own place when you're single so stay focused on saving. It's a really great feeling to know that you don't have to rely on anyone financially. At this point it's about getting on the property ladder and you do have to make some compromises, but it's worth it.
 
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BettyCrockerr

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I lived in Cardiff for 3 years, then Oxford another 2, and my hometown is near Birmingham, so I've been to enough cities and would not be totally against moving!! But the job issue is the biggest thing. Outside of London there's barely anything that pays better.
Yeah but your cost of living in London is high so if you lived somewhere cheaper on a similar wage you’d have more of your money for yourself.
 
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Alexaj

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Yeah but your cost of living in London is high so if you lived somewhere cheaper on a similar wage you’d have more of your money for yourself.
Yes, it's an important point. Your wage may be slightly less but your living costs would reduce too and you will most likely have more disposable income.
 
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Joannabloggs

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I have worked myself into a right state and it's not even midday, so I hope this makes sense!

I am turning 30 next year and have been single all my life. My parents have been pushing me to look at buying somewhere of my own rather than renting, for my own security and to have a bit more freedom. I would love to decorate and have a cat as I am really lonely.

I am looking to buy in London (I know) as I enjoy living here and most of my career opportunities are here. Currently in a full time permanent position paying 25k with no debt/credit issues (minus student loans). I may have access to a deposit from inheritance, so I've been looking into shared ownership etc, which I know I'm really lucky to be able to do.

However, the luck stops there...everywhere I've investigated, even for a 1 bedroom small flat, wants a 'minimum income' of around 50k+. There is no way I could achieve that without a partner in the next 10-15 years. It feels like I am being penalised for being single and it's just set off a load of my insecurities: 'Why am I so useless for not getting a boyfriend? Is it because I'm unattractive? Will I ever be happy and less lonely? Why did I not choose a higher salary profession?'

Can anyone offer comfort/words of wisdom? I feel like I will either be renting forever and not enjoying the privileges of ownership, or owning somewhere where I didn't really want to live. This is not helping my depression spiral :( Why are single women constantly penalised for everything?
I'm here to give you some hope!

On a 27k salary in 2018, I managed to buy a one bed flat in zone 3 london with a garden via shared ownership (50%). The key was not looking at any new builds as they are wildly overpriced, my flat was build in the early 80s. There's a shared ownership website for London, when searching make sure to search for resales only.

It needed a complete Reno but my deposit was big enough that I had money left over to afford it.

Another tip i would say is visit as many properties as u can as images can be deceptive. My flats lusting only had pictures of the garden which I think put people off from viewing

Don't give up, it's tough and time consuming but u will find somewhere, prices are ridiculous ATM but I think they'll get better once the stamp duty holiday ends. My bf is looking for a flat now and lots of the places he looked at before have reduced their prices
 
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wakametango

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I have worked myself into a right state and it's not even midday, so I hope this makes sense!

I am turning 30 next year and have been single all my life. My parents have been pushing me to look at buying somewhere of my own rather than renting, for my own security and to have a bit more freedom. I would love to decorate and have a cat as I am really lonely.

I am looking to buy in London (I know) as I enjoy living here and most of my career opportunities are here. Currently in a full time permanent position paying 25k with no debt/credit issues (minus student loans). I may have access to a deposit from inheritance, so I've been looking into shared ownership etc, which I know I'm really lucky to be able to do.

However, the luck stops there...everywhere I've investigated, even for a 1 bedroom small flat, wants a 'minimum income' of around 50k+. There is no way I could achieve that without a partner in the next 10-15 years. It feels like I am being penalised for being single and it's just set off a load of my insecurities: 'Why am I so useless for not getting a boyfriend? Is it because I'm unattractive? Will I ever be happy and less lonely? Why did I not choose a higher salary profession?'

Can anyone offer comfort/words of wisdom? I feel like I will either be renting forever and not enjoying the privileges of ownership, or owning somewhere where I didn't really want to live. This is not helping my depression spiral :( Why are single women constantly penalised for everything?
Ah same boat I was in at 30.
Literally cried watching the end season of Love Island one year, didn’t understand why it wasn’t happening to me! The love thing, not being on tv(Embarrassing)
I went to a mortgage meeting and left in tears as she said my repayments would be about £1,900. Left and cried to my mum in the car park who agreed maybe a mortgage wasn’t for me! Dusted myself off and realised they gave me a meeting with the branch manager NOT a mortgage advisor so complained and got £200 back!
I’m a Londoner through and through but buying in London was never going to be an option. I chose an area just outside of London where I could continue to commute in (luckily my two best friends live in this area too).

my income was a little more so not sure about that aspect but I bought a 175k flat with about 30k deposit. Ex council and not an ideal area but I have my foot on the ladder. I’m leasehold too which isn’t idea (have a £1,800 bill I’m currently ignoring!) so be prepared you’ll pay for any work done on your block.

my friend is part buy, part rent in London with a similar income to mine. It is possible (not sure if that is shared ownership, sorry).

Hope that helps x

Depends how far out you go though. Like Herts/Beds is catching up price wise but it may be doable. Depends which way you go out as well, like essex/east london has nicer pockets to it and has been gentrified. Whereas Luton will always be seen as rough 🤣
😂😂 not to derail from original post but yeah I looked at all those areas and Luton scared me
I went to the cinema with my dad in the late afternoon and the town was carnage 😆
 
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Hattieliz

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I feel like this all the time. I am 31, living at my parents and single for 3 years now. I went travelling after university and I feel like everyone who got a job straight after uni now has the babies, the husband and the house or one of the above at least.

I’ve grown up in London, border of Essex end, and I love where I live. All my family are within 10 minutes and I don’t want to move far. I have looked at the possibility of relocating so I can buy but then I’d be on my own in a place that I don’t know anyone, constantly driving back to visit my nieces and nephews and dogs (plus the other family obvz). I am lucky to get on very well with my parents and we are still in the family home which is a decent sized so don’t feel cramped but I do need to live my own life soon. I just don’t see a way too. I don’t want to rent as it’s ridiculous money around here (£1000 - £1200 a month) yet I can’t afford to buy. I’ve only just moved on to a salary of £27k (as in the last week or so haha) as I used to be on £20k. I know I should have found a better job a few years ago but I loved my job and thought I was happy on the lower wage.

I also don’t want to do shared ownership as I feel it’s a bit scammy and there are lots of problems with only owning a percentage but I just don’t see a way out atm.

I feel discriminated against for being single and in my 30s!
 
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Begborrowsteal

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London is just crazy prices. We had to move out to hertfordshire to afford the rent. Have a look at more commuter belt areas, so you can still work in London.
 
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Begborrowsteal

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Even a commuter town is going to be expensive, for someone only earning £25K - particularly if you think about the travel costs back into London. I used to travel in from Essex/East London and I was spending about £5K a year on rail costs..... it’s insane
Depends how far out you go though. Like Herts/Beds is catching up price wise but it may be doable. Depends which way you go out as well, like essex/east london has nicer pockets to it and has been gentrified. Whereas Luton will always be seen as rough 🤣
 
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smellsofbiscuits

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I think I was fooled with the promise of shared ownership, where you don't need to get a full mortgage. It said open to anyone earning under 90k, what they fail to say is that most of the time it's people earning over 50k, alone or combined. I don't have that alone or combined. If I was with someone else earning the same as me, I could buy.

I currently live in London and have for the past 4 years. I work in libraries and most of the jobs are here, the ones that pay better at least. I like London living, when life is 'normal' I'm big into going to museums, galleries, theatre, gigs etc which just don't happen in most other places. As I'm single that's what I fill my time with and I don't want to give it up. I guess I'll just have to keep renting for now.
Have you thought about Glasgow? There's a really vibrant culture scene and, pre-Covid, I could have gone to gigs every night of the week if I wished. Same with museums, galleries etc. Library jobs can be a bit thin on the ground but you also have the option of commuting to Edinburgh/Lanarkshire.

A good friend of mine lives in London and is in a similarly position. Her deposit for a property in London would get her a 4 bedroomed detached house about an hours commute from Glasgow 😳 She is still renting as, like you, she does love London and would prefer not to live within visiting distance of family (but that's her story not mine....).

Finally, you could live quite comfortably in Glasgow on a salary of £25, 000.

ETA: Sorry, just read that moving to another city isn't on the agenda. If owning property is on your goals list then I'm afraid it would never happen on a £25, 000 salary in London. And working in your sector, I am aware that it is unlikely that salary will increase unless you apply for more management roles. As above, you'd be paid slightly less in Glasgow for a similar role but you would get more for your money.
 
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Alexaj

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I bought a house by myself by 30 on a similar wage... but I wasn't looking at London, or anywhere down south. I think you need to realise it's not going to happen in London on that wage so either get climbing that career ladder ASAP or consider another city (preferred option).
 
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sleepflowers

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I can absolutely assure you that in most major cities in the UK there is a very vibrant culture of museums/theatre/gigs etc etc etc - I promise, there is a whole world outside of London!!!!! Have you ever lived anywhere else? Or visited any other city in the UK?!!!
I lived in Cardiff for 3 years, then Oxford another 2, and my hometown is near Birmingham, so I've been to enough cities and would not be totally against moving!! But the job issue is the biggest thing. Outside of London there's barely anything that pays better.
 
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