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shellie

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article on Irish Independent today
It is understood gardaí are satisfied Hansard went to another location on his motorbike after he left the pub at around 11.30pm.


So he did go somewhere else after the pub. As soon as people started saying they couldn't comment on it, it was obvious but this just confirms it.

As for the guy who found him, depending on how long he had been lying, there was likely nothing else he could have done. At least he did what he could. I have seen videos of people either passing accident sites where people needed help or stopped to film as the victim died.
 
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Carapop

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As a total outsider, I’m so sorry but I thought he was dodgy as soon as I saw this on his wiki page.

“Hansard and Markéta Irglová met in 2001, when she was 13 and he was 32, at a music festival organised by her parents in the Czech Republic.[40] Irglová's father, a fan of Hansard's band the Frames, later invited Hansard to stay at the family home for three months to write songs.[40] Hansard and Irglová began a romantic relationship in April 2007,[40] during the promotional tour for Once.[41] In August 2007, Hansard said of the relationship: "I think we fell in love a couple of years ago, but nothing happened until recently"[40] and "I kept telling myself she's just a kid."[42] The relationship ended after about two years.[43]
Ah but Marketa doesn’t mind that he was attracted to her when she was thirteen and he was thirty so therefore it is fine.
 
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Carapop

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To be fair I haven’t seen any suggestions anywhere that his behaviour was ever criminal. But that doesn’t at all exclude the possibility that he abused his position of power and influence, pursued inappropriate relations with women significantly younger than him to an extent that many consider inappropriate, and had an enduring reputation related to such proclivities.

Also, has anyone else had a once off intimate encounter with a man after which they just felt icky? Nothing you could attest to or evidence in a court of law, and you somehow feel at least partially responsible because you were flattered by his attention and allowed him into your bed, so you don’t want to start pointing fingers and risk having your own character assassinated, but you would be very concerned if someone you knew and love later started dating them?
 
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BugglyWuggly

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You couldn't meet a nicer man than Glen. My OH has worked with him many times. Everyone always loved to see Glen's name down. But all the rumours over the years always made me uneasy. It's hard to know what to think about him. He did so much good for charity and people in general and made some beautiful music. But the other noise about him has been around for years and it's hard to shake that off.
 
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Lovenews

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What's significant about him being in a hotel?.
Its an odd one but the reason I find it significant , as a wife is....he was at a hotel.
If he didnt drink...he was there for something else... not sure why the cops were that invested but its probably a normal line of enquiry.
 
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Thegoodlife

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Surely a quick visit to the hotel by the guards, pull up the cctv, you have your answer. Article seems to confirm the accident happened around 4.30 so that’s a good chunk of time to be accounted for.

If he was just in visiting mates somewhere then they’d have confirmed that.
 
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Old Harold

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I was expecting an article, but it's just a load of screenshots of posts I've seen already. Very lazy.
 
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Mrs Fluff

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The thing is until victims come forward instead of staying in the shadows it’s all here say. I’m not saying it didnt happen btw I’m just saying it’s all friend of a friend stuff and survivors posting anonymously. Lots of “ it will all come out soon”. talk . So until it does everybody is repeating themselves.
I think that IG post was in the hope people would come forward. Problem is in a country this small it's so hard
 
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MaryLou32

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Clearly.

Oh and it's not an opinion that he himself said he fell in love with a child (pre-17 years old) and went on to have a relationship with that child. Plus a 17 year old is not an adult either, nevermind the power imbalance there. These are the facts and the proof that you just keep ignoring.
She was 19, not 17
 
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Debra_Whinger

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I thought the story was that he was at a hotel? I guess he could have done both. Or neither. Anyone can say anything online and we may never know the actual truth of those 'missing' hours.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here and assume the rumours are malicious and he really was a man of outstanding character. Maybe his musician friend was from out of town specifically in Dublin for this sesh, his car broke down and the only way he could get to his hotel was a lift from Glen?

Or he offered to take this friend who lived far away to their home, got tired on the way back and decided to stay at a hotel for the night. As he couldn't sleep without his family there, he decided to head home after a couple of hours of tossing and turning. I guess there are multiple theories on what might have happened. Or then he just drove around in a poetic mood writing songs in his head not realising what time it was.

I'm really trying here because of course we all wish he was all the good things. It is also possible that one rumour I heard of him delivering organs to be transplanted to hospitals as a volunteer was true and he just got some urgent calls after a gig. But then... Occam's Razor 🤔
 
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dothprotesttoomuch

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I guess we will probably never really know when his physical relationship with Marketa began. But I would put money on it being - in the words of Philip Schofield - "unwise but not illegal". These type of men know what they are doing, it's how they manage to get away with it for so long/fool everyone.

So they may have gotten together when she was 15, if that was legal where she's from, but said 17 to keep those "back home" happy. Either way, he'll have made sure it was just legal enough.
 
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Carapop

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Someone on Facebook comments today under a news article about the crash investigation:



Giving a lift to someone for several hours though...? How far did he drive? 🤔 Did he have a spare helmet and would people just casually be up for a ride on a motor bike...? And since it's a musician, surely they had their instrument with them too?

I dunno... Sounds like a friend covering up for him. Conveniently when it's a pleasant story it's not hearsay that the person given a ride was your neighbour's co-worker's friend. When it's something unpleasant, your ex-girlfriend or sister is an unreliable and too distant source. Got it.
Ah here. How many degrees of separation is that Facebook follower from the apparent lift taker. It actually sounds like a pisatake. Opens the comment with a definitive authoritative statement as if it were fact, and then provides the most tenuous of links to the apparent source 🤣

I briefly dated a guy who tended bar in a music venue in Galway along with leading a relatively popular band at the time. He shared some stories re Hansard. This was twenty years ago. I was heartbroken as I loved the frames. I didn’t want to imagine this man who seemed so decent and wholesome and generous to also be someone who wanks on a girl in her sleep.

Actually, I was around 22 then and in college, my bar tending guitar playing beau was mid 30s. Musicians love a young groupie.
 
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Warpaint

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Has anyone seen the The Swell Season documentary? It was really odd. It gives an insight into their relationship and why it fell apart. Think it was filmed just after Once went mega.
 
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dothprotesttoomuch

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You are aware people can have different opinions? I'm not saying Glen didn't do anything wrong. I'm saying there is no clear proof to condemn him. I have nothing further to add here.
Clearly.

Oh and it's not an opinion that he himself said he fell in love with a child (pre-17 years old) and went on to have a relationship with that child. Plus a 17 year old is not an adult either, nevermind the power imbalance there. These are the facts and the proof that you just keep ignoring.
 
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Sideboard Bob

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As a total outsider, I’m so sorry but I thought he was dodgy as soon as I saw this on his wiki page.

“Hansard and Markéta Irglová met in 2001, when she was 13 and he was 32, at a music festival organised by her parents in the Czech Republic.[40] Irglová's father, a fan of Hansard's band the Frames, later invited Hansard to stay at the family home for three months to write songs.[40] Hansard and Irglová began a romantic relationship in April 2007,[40] during the promotional tour for Once.[41] In August 2007, Hansard said of the relationship: "I think we fell in love a couple of years ago, but nothing happened until recently"[40] and "I kept telling myself she's just a kid."[42] The relationship ended after about two years.[43]
 
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dothprotesttoomuch

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Just to note- all the articles I've seen reference them getting together when she was 19- not 17.
Though he did say he had been in love with her for a couple of years previous, so when she was around 17.
Which as others has pointed out, may be icky/ creepy/uncomfortable, but not illegal.
Even if it was 19, there's nothing to suggest his comments about being in love with her was when she was 17. He left it very vague, but we do know he was in her life from when she was at least 13 years old and said he was falling in love with a child.

And I was the one who said I doubt anything illegal happened (ie a physical relationship) or certainly not anything that could be quantified, as men like that will wait until their victims are just legal enough.
 
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DaisyChain90

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Do you not realise whole families can be manipulated by groomers? That's their MO. They are as charming as they are manipulative. And my understanding is that quite a lot of stories/evidence did come out at the time they happened from those directly involved, but the threatened legal action by Hansard made them go away. This information is all out there, but you clearly want it handed to you on silver platter.

I can see why people who tried to speak out years ago but were silenced by these threats may not want to come forward now; they might feel it's not worth the hassle that will come from those who worship Saint Hansard and won't hear a bad word about him. Imagine the trial by media they would suffer and for what? Nothing will happen to a dead man, but their lives - which presumably have moved on in the interim years - will be turned upside down. Others, like Marketa, might still hero-worship him and not see anything wrong with his behaviour.

There are way too many stories, all along a similar vein, for there to be no smoke without fire. It's not just one or two stories either.

ETA: his own words about Marketa are also the proof you are looking for, but you seem to keep finding ways to ignore it. They got together when she was 17 and he said himself he fell in love with her years before that! When she was a literal child! What more proof do you need?! He said they waited until she was 17 and I do actually believe this, because I think men like Hansard are cunning and will skirt the lines of legality. But dont think he wasn't getting his jollies in places abroad where the age of consent was younger, while he waited/groomed Marketa AND her family.
You are aware people can have different opinions? I'm not saying Glen didn't do anything wrong. I'm saying there is no clear proof to condemn him. I have nothing further to add here.
 
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