Gender Discussion #95

[emmer_moans]

I've been GC for years and I still do not understand it - why do men want to think of themselves as women and want others (mainly women) to indulge them in their fantasy?
I can see many aspects of it - transing away the gay, misogyny and misperception of women, sissy porn, not identifying with male stereotypes etc etc - but I still don't understand it.
I've kinda given up trying to understand it tbh as there is no sense or logic to it, trans ideology is without foundation, a case of feelings over facts or biology.
Sex is immutable and biological men have no place in women's safe spaces - it really is that simple.

It's like you read my mind, I was thinking this on my solitary walk this afternoon.

Edited to be a bit clearer.

Gay men and drag queens: I was thinking why do a considerable amount of gay gays celebrate drag queens, like why are you attracted to the performed femininity that is blown out of proportion? Like the long talon nails, the fake big booty, the wigs, the lashings of makeup and exaggerated eyes? Why? When you're attracted to males? You very rarely see drag Kings, and you don't see lots of women fawning over them, like men do for drag queens. I genuinely don't understand why a man who likes men likes a man dressed as a female parody? With all the sequins and tit? All I see when I see a drag queen is a clown, in all honesty. The make up is clownish. And scary to me.

AGPs who want to dress in their female partner's knickers etc: is it porn that's addled their brains, or male ego thinking they want the attention that women get (whether solicited or unsolicited), or thinking they can do being a woman better?

 

[Miss Ophelia]

No im sorry this is so wildly offensive on every level.

He isn't simulating a pregnancy. Hes simulating a pregnancy loss and stillbirth.

As a 21 week pregnant woman who has struggled with pregnancy loss I am beyond disgusted.

As a biological female we spend our entire lifetimes from puberty being dictated to by our reproductive systems. And im sorry - but a biological male cannot understand that. They cannot simply overload on hormones and claim theyre having a baby.

His wife and children must be absolutely horrified. He needs real mental health services to step in and help him because this really is a total breakdown.

In a few months I'll (hopefully and all being well) be giving birth to my son. A very dangerous and scary process that is more than lying in bed, on a day of his choosing with a tens machine on and pretending hes birthing and losing a baby. The thought of someone doing that makes me irrationally angry.

Whether you agree or disagree with trans rights this feels like its on an entirely different level.

Good luck @ScottishMammy92 safe delivery and both well everything crossed

 

[chizontiz]

Things not going well for the toxic Dr Webberley. I don’t think she’s getting the answers she hoped for.

sometimes I have to remind myself that a feminist view of world means that women have equal opportunity to be the biggest bleeping bellends too

 

[Funny_bunny]

I've been GC for years and I still do not understand it - why do men want to think of themselves as women and want others (mainly women) to indulge them in their fantasy?
I can see many aspects of it - transing away the gay, misogyny and misperception of women, sissy porn, not identifying with male stereotypes etc etc - but I still don't understand it.
I've kinda given up trying to understand it tbh as there is no sense or logic to it, trans ideology is without foundation, a case of feelings over facts or biology.
Sex is immutable and biological men have no place in women's safe spaces - it really is that simple.

This 100%. I don’t get it at all either. I don’t get the whole concept of gender identity in the first place. I don’t have any sense or feeling of being a woman, it’s just what I am, and I get on with life. I don’t like a lot of stereotypical feminine things - not to make any point, they genuinely don’t interest me, like make up or fashion, but so what? It doesn’t mean I’m a man, nor would I want to be. I’m sure the whole gender thing is just to normalise a sexual fetish or perversion. Transvestites used to be viewed as odd, yet call them trans women, and they’re suddenly stunning and brave. Allegedly.

It's like you read my mind, I was thinking this on my solitary walk this afternoon.

Edited to be a bit clearer.

Gay men and drag queens: I was thinking why do a considerable amount of gay gays celebrate drag queens, like why are you attracted to the performed femininity that is blown out of proportion? Like the long talon nails, the fake big booty, the wigs, the lashings of makeup and exaggerated eyes? Why? When you're attracted to males? You very rarely see drag Kings, and you don't see lots of women fawning over them, like men do for drag queens. I genuinely don't understand why a man who likes men likes a man dressed as a female parody? With all the sequins and tit? All I see when I see a drag queen is a clown, in all honesty. The make up is clownish. And scary to me.

AGPs who want to dress in their female partner's knickers etc: is it porn that's addled their brains, or male ego thinking they want the attention that women get (whether solicited or unsolicited), or thinking they can do being a woman better?

Agreed and BIB. I’m one of those people that HATES bloody clowns, creepy grotesque buggers that they are, and thats exactly what drag queens look like to me too. Creepy and grotesque.

 

[Miss Ophelia]

Another to join the tide turning crew wonder if my cat would understand Einstein?🤍
Changing the subject is there anything that men won’t do to women just reading made me feel sick https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-pervert-doctor-hid-vile-35762573

 

[Bread]

A very TRA friend mentioned today that she didn't like male bodies being in a dance class which was basically for women only. These were men she was referring to, but I did wonder, if I said "were they men who identified as women, would that suddenly be ok?"

It wasn't the time to ask her, but I will at some point.

 

[petitspois]

I've been GC for years and I still do not understand it - why do men want to think of themselves as women and want others (mainly women) to indulge them in their fantasy?
I can see many aspects of it - transing away the gay, misogyny and misperception of women, sissy porn, not identifying with male stereotypes etc etc - but I still don't understand it.
I've kinda given up trying to understand it tbh as there is no sense or logic to it, trans ideology is without foundation, a case of feelings over facts or biology.
Sex is immutable and biological men have no place in women's safe spaces - it really is that simple.

I think women just can’t comprehend just how base men’s sexual appetites can be. They seem to be able to be turned on by almost anything and are filthy creatures in many respects. The vast, vast majority of women don’t find under 18s appealing in a sexual way yet a significant minority of men do. Women are not turned on by sexual violence but grape statistics shows men often are. Just looking at my local Court reports shows a snapshot of the sex crimes in this country and it disgusts me.
I still can’t fathom why women support this ideology though. It baffles me.

 

[emmer_moans]

Add Dani Harmer (Tracy Beaker ) to the 'protect the dolls' club...

Protecting AGP men over actual females... Handmaiden. Mother to a girl, as well, who will no doubt be conditioned into thinking men in female toilets is ok.

 

[Funny_bunny]

Why are they described as dolls? Again, infantilised, made to sound like they are vulnerable and delicate when in fact, their appearance and behaviour is totally male. Who do they need protecting from? Can’t abide these women who prioritise men with a sexual fetish over actual women and girls.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

Why are they described as dolls? Again, infantilised, made to sound like they are vulnerable and delicate when in fact, their appearance and behaviour is totally male. Who do they need protecting from? Can’t abide these women who prioritise men with a sexual fetish over actual women and girls.

That bloody T-Shirt throws me into a state of surly misanthropy every time I see it. It's everything I despise in one ridiculous slogan.

 

[VickiDunD]

She looked away each time I changed my bra. It was all very respectful.

Probably trying not to vomit. Or laugh.

Personally, I'd believe Christopher Biggins was straight before I believed this happened. JMHO, obviously.

Apologies if it's already been said as I'm a wee bit behind. BIB - except they don't look away, they close the curtain over and give you some privacy. There are 2 sections to the changing rooms in M&S lingerie changing rooms. The door closes and you have a wee bit there, then there's another bit where the curtain closes over so you can try on and the member of staff can stand on the other side so you can have some privacy. So I call BS!!

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Why are they described as dolls? Again, infantilised, made to sound like they are vulnerable and delicate when in fact, their appearance and behaviour is totally male. Who do they need protecting from? Can’t abide these women who prioritise men with a sexual fetish over actual women and girls.

And because they are totally artificial and unfeeling?

 

[Ilovemusic]

Wakefield news is a piss-take, yes, but the person they've named as Gabrielle Martini is Gabrielle Darone, aka 'Princess Mom'. Screenshots from 2020.

Spoiler: Spoilered, because it's disturbing

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Edit: found some more. He joined a Facebook support group for grieving mothers. The women who objected to his presence and his requests to breastfeed someone else's child were banned.

Spoiler

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This MAN already has biological children.
This MAN is sick.
This MAN is perverted.
This MAN is dangerous.
This MAN needs to be in a secure psychiatric unit.

 

[MarjorieBellamy]

This MAN already has biological children.
This MAN is sick.
This MAN is perverted.
This MAN is dangerous.
This MAN needs to be in a secure psychiatric unit.

I had the misfortune of being in the same FB group with him for mothers taking domperidone. If you're taking domperidone you're a woman struggling horribly with milk supply. It was an awful gaslighting experience sharing a virtual space with him. The admins were completely captured so no dissent was permitted. Some woman was prepared to let him 'breast' feed her new baby

 

[chizontiz]

I think women just can’t comprehend just how base men’s sexual appetites can be. They seem to be able to be turned on by almost anything and are filthy creatures in many respects. The vast, vast majority of women don’t find under 18s appealing in a sexual way yet a significant minority of men do. Women are not turned on by sexual violence but grape statistics shows men often are. Just looking at my local Court reports shows a snapshot of the sex crimes in this country and it disgusts me.
I still can’t fathom why women support this ideology though. It baffles me.

I went to a comedy night recently with two men (we all did a course together). When I arrived, one explained a little sheepishly that I’d interrupted a ‘boys chat’, which I’ll spoiler below…

Spoiler: Manly men

he said they’d been discussing whether, if they slept with a TIM, if it would be better if the TIM had a big or a small pen. As in what would be more ‘manly’.

I replied, pointing at the other guy we were with ‘well, would you rather he have a big or a small pen if you slept with him?’

They both pulled a face and he replied ‘I would NEVER sleep with X’

I asked what the difference was, and he told me that for him there was a difference, he doesn’t mind if a TIM has a fool if he’s ‘feminine’ enough. So yes, I think he probably would bag just about anything so long as it wasn’t a man who looked like a man! I also suspect he let me into this delightful chat because he thought I was ‘manly enough’ to be one of the boys/not ‘feminine’ enough to get offended!

 

[Moon Face]

Going back to my book find (Terf Island) I didn't realise it was only published last month, so I'm even more grateful to the woman (I presume) who left it.

I only popped in to use the loo before going home, and I came out radicalised.

I will of course donate it back to a book stall once I have read it. The more who read it the better.

 

[emmer_moans]

Going back to my book find (Terf Island) I didn't realise it was only published last month, so I'm even more grateful to the woman (I presume) who left it.

I only popped in to use the loo before going home, and I came out radicalised.

I will of course donate it back to a book stall once I have read it. The more who read it the better.

Adding it to my list.

 

[JAR21]

I went to a comedy night recently with two men (we all did a course together). When I arrived, one explained a little sheepishly that I’d interrupted a ‘boys chat’, which I’ll spoiler below…

Spoiler: Manly men

he said they’d been discussing whether, if they slept with a TIM, if it would be better if the TIM had a big or a small pen. As in what would be more ‘manly’.

I replied, pointing at the other guy we were with ‘well, would you rather he have a big or a small pen if you slept with him?’

They both pulled a face and he replied ‘I would NEVER sleep with X’

I asked what the difference was, and he told me that for him there was a difference, he doesn’t mind if a TIM has a fool if he’s ‘feminine’ enough. So yes, I think he probably would bag just about anything so long as it wasn’t a man who looked like a man! I also suspect he let me into this delightful chat because he thought I was ‘manly enough’ to be one of the boys/not ‘feminine’ enough to get offended!

Where were they planning to stick their knobs with the TIM?

 

[Brian Butterfield]

Sex Matters has filed a case over the “single-sex” Hampstead Ponds against the City of London.

Hampstead ponds: we have filed our case!

Donate now Sex Matters has filed its claim to the High Court seeking permission for a judicial review of the decision to continue to operate the men’s and

sex-matters.org

 

[minimaz]

Canada is still burning witches

Nurse Amy Hamm has been financially ruined for daring to criticise gender ideology.

www.spiked-online.com

I hadn't heard about this case before but Canada has turned into a frightening dystopia judging by what happened to this poor woman
Another nurse being punished for being gender critical.

I was familiar with the case so you can imagine the epithet I used when this came up on my instagram this week. Amy Hamm is not allowed to express gender critical views in her personal life without censure and financial penalty but a man can wear black face to work and be given back his job with back pay. I hope Amy Hamm is successful at her appeal but I think Canada similar to Australia is too captured to roll back to sense.