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There are so many knowledgeable women on this thread who would be happy to answer any questions you have or point you in the direction of books or articles, even YouTube channels if you'd like more information.
I'll do my best to read the wiki over the next day or so, it's the abbreviations that threw me and I decided "nah I can't remember all that"
 
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Tried to read the wiki, got very confused, commenting in the hopes that one day I may be able to read this thread, be educated properly & add to the discussion 🤣
Welcome to the thread! 👋
I've been here for years and I haven't read the wiki, I've dipped in and read things that interest me, it's rather like a library as the information is there if you need it.
The crux of the debate is simple - sex is immutable, you cannot change sex, and women have sex-based rights to protect their privacy, safety and dignity - so please feel free to read along and post your thoughts 💚🤍💜
 
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This bit at the end sums it up for me.

This is the transphobia Fry thinks Rowling is guilty of – not showing “love”. She’s not polite enough. This is what so much of trans activists’ complaints boil down to – a demand for love and attention. This from a side who fail to show anything like love for the women they oppose.
It’s OK if Fry and his acolytes don’t like women with opinions of their own – we don’t want their “love”. We demand our freedom, respect and dignity when defending and organising our own spaces, resources and identity

They seem to be obsessed with “love” from random strangers, and also that creepy thing celebrities say, “Trans kids you are so loved”. Who demands or wants “love” from strangers? It’s insincere and it’s creepy. In fact it’s meaningless, but it does seem to be an obsession. “Love“ and “respect” for creepy aggressive men with a fetish? Absolutely not.
We really do need to start dismissing men like Fry. How or why should anyone take the words of someone so openly disturbed sexually, I have no idea. It really is time to tell these men to shut up. He isn't alone in his opinion, there many gay men just like him. I don't know what happens to young gay men as they go through adolescence, but it never appears to be legal or a good experience, it certainly should not give them a voice on the rights and safety of women and girls. I'm fed up with all of them, and their nefarious orgs (Stonewall/GLAAD/The Trevor Project/The Men's Rights Campaign, et al) too.
 
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Tried to read the wiki, got very confused, commenting in the hopes that one day I may be able to read this thread, be educated properly & add to the discussion 🤣
Welcome! A lot of us started off in the same situation.

Originally it took years for a man to officially be classed as Transexual. It was a long process, lots of hurdles and very few men reached the finishing line. This meant that the numbers were low and most didn't present a threat to women. They also - on the whole - didn't want to attract attention, just live quietly.

This has changed, and now any man can simply declare himself as "Trans" and - until recently - access all women's spaces. This includes grape centres, hospital wards, les meetings, changing areas, sports and of course toilets.

Unsurprisingly this has attracted the worst type of men, and these present a danger to women. Not only a physical threat, but a threat to women's privacy, dignity and autonomy.

The recent Supreme Court ruling has said that the law was misinterpreted, and that single-sex has always meant single-sex, and that these men should not have been allowed access to them.

There is now an angry push back from the Trans Rights Activists, with protests being held. The rhetoric is that this ruling is "anti Trans". The solution, that they use unisex facilities or have their own spaces, is unacceptable to them.

Meanwhile, the majority of women simply want to regain their own spaces, free from all men - however they "identify".
 
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We really do need to start dismissing men like Fry. How or why should anyone take the words of someone so openly disturbed sexually, I have no idea. It really is time to tell these men to shut up. He isn't alone in his opinion, there many gay men just like him. I don't know what happens to young gay men as they go through adolescence, but it never appears to be legal or a good experience, it certainly should not give them a voice on the rights and safety of women and girls. I'm fed up with all of them, and their nefarious orgs (Stonewall/GLAAD/The Trevor Project/The Men's Rights Campaign, et al) too.
BIB nail on the head there. Male desire is powerful. It doesn't have the checks and balances of female desire, where we have to consider pregnancy and, unfortunately, social attitudes that shame us - and that's just in a consensual relationship. So I doubt there's much sweetness or romance to young gay experience, especially with predatory older men who go on about pederasty at dinner parties. Then there's the whole public school thing, with it's repulsive traditions and brutality. Fry might fawn over beautiful, famous women, but he really doesn't like us at all.
 
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Just watching tv and an advert comes on for Andrew, 74% of kids won’t poo at school so the boy gets the Andrew and goes to the boys bathroom with his loo roll, thought the reason was because school toilets where all mixed sex I know my nieces school is and she will go all day and not go to the loo.
 
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Oh, duck off with this rit. As a les, I always thought pride was a load of balls even before the gender lunacy. It was always aimed at gay men (I used to say to people, when you see posters for pride, have a look and see if you can see any lesbians on any of them. You won't, 'cause it's all centred around men) But i guess at least pride used to be about gay people. Now pride posters and advertisements are full of all this trans lunacy and daubed in their colours. The original pride colours are all but being erased. Although I suppose at least that's an accurate representation of what's actually happening to the community.
 
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A clip of Philippa Perry has popped up being interviewed by Rylan about love. I used to find her quite interesting but the fact that she’s supporting Grayson Perry to live out his AGP fetish repulses me.
He caused a stir this week after appearing on the One Show (in a skirt obvs) wearing a huge resin necklace emblazoned with 👑 W ⚓

King Wanker.

Unsure whether it was a literal reference to his favourite hobby or some sort of sissy fetish BDSM humiliation ritual. Creep.
 
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1. This is why people are pushing back.
2. Primary aged children should not be taught about fetishes and multiple sexual relationships.
3. Grooming in plain sight under the guise of progress.
4. Hard drives need checking.

 
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He caused a stir this week after appearing on the One Show (in a skirt obvs) wearing a huge resin necklace emblazoned with 👑 W ⚓

King Wanker.
I'm assuming this is Grayson Perry not Rylan? I really like Rylan. He seems a decent human being so don't want this to be about him!
 
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I'm assuming this is Grayson Perry not Rylan? I really like Rylan. He seems a decent human being so don't want this to be about him!
I like Rylan. I'll try to find the link later, but he was interviewed fairly recently and they covered the topic of pregnancy in trans women and if I recall correctly he said the notion of asking a biological male if they were pregnant was ridiculous :LOL:
 
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Just watching tv and an advert comes on for Andrew, 74% of kids won’t poo at school so the boy gets the Andrew and goes to the boys bathroom with his loo roll, thought the reason was because school toilets where all mixed sex I know my nieces school is and she will go all day and not go to the loo.
I work in a school and I struggle to poo at work!
But seriously though, a lot of pupils of both sexes hate using school toilets. At my daughter's school, the toilets are locked during lessons and don't always get unlocked at the end of the day so she always runs in the house and rushes straight to the toilet.
I've complained that it's not healthy to have to hold in urine but the school's solution was to issue a hall pass for her. I pointed out that's it's an issue for more students than just my child.
 
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I like Rylan. I'll try to find the link later, but he was interviewed fairly recently and they covered the topic of pregnancy in trans women and if I recall correctly he said the notion of asking a biological male if they were pregnant was ridiculous :LOL:
It's all to play into the fetishistic delusion of "What?! 😮You were born a man? But . . we could never have been able to tell . . . you are so feminine . . . "

WE CAN TELL!

WE CAN TELL AT A GLANCE, YOU weird MELTS!

AND WE AREN'T GOING TO PLAY INTO YOUR FETISH.
 
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Surely to God they watch themselves on that and they pray for the ground to open up and swallow them.

I would be beyond ashamed.
duck knows what goes through these people’s minds.

A new colleague at work this week introduced himself on the (public) Pride network page telling us all about his 19 year old son who he has transed and boasting about volunteering for Mermaids. Maybe they’re just desperate for praise because it never takes long for the usual suspects to turn up and applaud them for their “allyship”.
 
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I've complained that it's not healthy to have to hold in urine but the school's solution was to issue a hall pass for her. I pointed out that's it's an issue for more students than just my child.
It's not just that though. Girls have to deal with periods at school and frankly it's inhumane making girls sit there while leaking through because they know the toilets are locked and they can't go until break/lunch/home time. Or having to use higher absorbency tampons just to make it through the day. There are so many health risks associated with kids (particularly girls) being unable to access the toilets when needed.

If we woke up tomorrow and men and boys menstruated, whilst the patriarchal structure remained in place, the concessions they would be allowed would be massive. No vat on period products? They'd actually be free. Paid menstrual leave would be common place. There's no way toilets would be locked during the day. But it's just girls and women so who gives a duck?
 
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Hello all, I don’t think I’ve ever posted in here before. Just have something to share. We attended a cosplay event for teens with autism a few weeks ago. The centrepiece was the cosplay competition itself & those kids & their creativity were amazing. There were a couple of side events and a hall full of movie/manga/gamer merch stands. Point is, the amount of “trans” merch was shocking. Stands with blue-haired pierced acolytes flogging flags, badges etc etc. ASD teens. Indoctrination.
 
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Oh, duck off with this rit. As a les, I always thought pride was a load of balls even before the gender lunacy. It was always aimed at gay men (I used to say to people, when you see posters for pride, have a look and see if you can see any lesbians on any of them. You won't, 'cause it's all centred around men) But i guess at least pride used to be about gay people. Now pride posters and advertisements are full of all this trans lunacy and daubed in their colours. The original pride colours are all but being erased. Although I suppose at least that's an accurate representation of what's actually happening to the community.
What has being rescued from a burning building ( or any other emergency situation) got to do with “who you love”? Is it really of any concern or interest to anyone. I’m quite sure fire crews are busy getting people out of danger and extinguishing fires without speculation on whether the people are rescuing are straight, gay or have some weird fetish. It’s totally irrelevant, and frankly, bringing it into everything is downright weird.
I work with the public face to face on a daily basis. Even though it’s healthcare, I have no need nor interest in anyone’s sexual orientation.
 
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