Well clearly they are right to assume so. The majority of people on my social media are. I have unfollowed a lot of people this week. I have gotten abuse off people for my views. I have watched people stay silent when they KNOW this is wrong.
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I didn't realise that currently, boxing isn't on the agenda for the 2028 Olympics (it is to be decided next year). So if it doesn't go ahead, 2 of the boxing medals for women will be held by men forever more 
just been reading through all the comments about the Olympics and boxing. What a mess. Completely unfair and shouldn’t be allowed to happen.
I can’t imagine what it’s like having their dsd. Living as one sex and not knowing until perhaps puberty that you are biologically male. It must screw you up and be a lot to deal with. The IOC has not protected them with this. They have used them to promote a cause, while the athletes receive the backlash on a global scale.
The athletes are just as bad for competing though!
I can’t imagine what it’s like having their dsd. Living as one sex and not knowing until perhaps puberty that you are biologically male. It must screw you up and be a lot to deal with. The IOC has not protected them with this. They have used them to promote a cause, while the athletes receive the backlash on a global scale.
The athletes are just as bad for competing though!
This!!! These athletes have been used by the IOC to further an agenda. No thought was given to their long term mental health or emotional wellbeing. They may even be in a state where they believe the lies everyone is peddling.
They are still people for punching women though.
The IOC could have nipped this in the bud when they 1st received the letter from the IBA, in fairness, after this mess they probably wish they had. Back then nobody outside of Boxing had heard of the 2 Boxers so all this drama was completely avoidable.
Insisting on a swab test before competing in any sport as a Female post puberty will stop this from playing out in public for all affected Men (xy no special consideration for CAIS, Swyers etc)
I don't have any sympathy for any of them because they have had ample time to deal with this in a private manner. They chose to compete on the biggest stage in sport knowing they were Men so they deserve every thing they get now.
Insisting on a swab test before competing in any sport as a Female post puberty will stop this from playing out in public for all affected Men (xy no special consideration for CAIS, Swyers etc)
I don't have any sympathy for any of them because they have had ample time to deal with this in a private manner. They chose to compete on the biggest stage in sport knowing they were Men so they deserve every thing they get now.
I'm nipping over from the JKR threads, his is a topic that has interested me for ages.
Must say, this BBC article was one of the better ones, because it tries to be nuanced and makes the position that yes, there are chromosomal differences, but that what really matter is how the individual body responds to certain hormones. They also make a case that until there is more data on unfair advantages, it would be better to not have everyone compete under the assumed gender.
I acknowledge that it might even depend on the discipline and whether responding and having more testosterone is an advantage but tbh, I've yet to see someone who looks very feminine compete as a male in a discipline where strength is a key factor. It's only the other way round.
I'd even buy it that these athletes might not have known about DSDs for a long time and that they were raised a girls. Finding out must have come as a shock. But they still shouldn't have been allowed to compete.
There have been calls for a "mixed" competition. if that ever happens, I bet either nobody competes in it other than a few idealists, or it'd end up like the paralympics (or any disabled competition), where you have to have different "classes".
Must say, this BBC article was one of the better ones, because it tries to be nuanced and makes the position that yes, there are chromosomal differences, but that what really matter is how the individual body responds to certain hormones. They also make a case that until there is more data on unfair advantages, it would be better to not have everyone compete under the assumed gender.
I acknowledge that it might even depend on the discipline and whether responding and having more testosterone is an advantage but tbh, I've yet to see someone who looks very feminine compete as a male in a discipline where strength is a key factor. It's only the other way round.
I'd even buy it that these athletes might not have known about DSDs for a long time and that they were raised a girls. Finding out must have come as a shock. But they still shouldn't have been allowed to compete.
There have been calls for a "mixed" competition. if that ever happens, I bet either nobody competes in it other than a few idealists, or it'd end up like the paralympics (or any disabled competition), where you have to have different "classes".
What was really 'funny' during the debate about athletes like Lia Thomas, was the debate around the fact that these XY 'ladies' didnt actually have any physical advantages from their XY genes or testosterone levels, so that XX women were still competing on a level playing field, as both XY women and XX women were equally able to win in competitive sports. ( Im not sure I ever agreed with this, but this was the essence of the discussion about why sex didnt matter in sport, gender did!)Khelif’s coach says he’s not female. A problem with chromosomes = XY. A problem with hormones = produces testosterone at male levels. We worked with a doctor = we’ve artificially lowered his T levels.
Google translate extract from here:
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So isnt it interesting how in the womens Olympic boxing, its 2 XY women who have won gold against a field of XX women! Its almost as if the XY women have some kind of genetic advantage over the XX women!!
It's such a pathetic argument. It's basically saying that Women are so weak that they can expect to be beaten by every single man on the planet. The fact that both these boxers have previously lost to Women only proves that they are bang average Males.
One of my favourite Female athletes Shaunae Miller Uibo actually met her husband (Decathlete Maicel Uibo) at University when they were waiting in a queue
Maicel recalls that it wasn’t exactly romantic.
“I think my first words to her were, “Oh, so you're the girl who has the [better] PB than me… meaning the four hundred metres…”
Shaunae didn’t really understand what he meant.
Eventually, Shaunae realised he was a decathlete and not a 400m runner.
“I was a little confused… [Initially I thought], ‘how did you get on the team?’
Maicel won an Olympic silver medal.
One of my favourite Female athletes Shaunae Miller Uibo actually met her husband (Decathlete Maicel Uibo) at University when they were waiting in a queue
Maicel recalls that it wasn’t exactly romantic.
“I think my first words to her were, “Oh, so you're the girl who has the [better] PB than me… meaning the four hundred metres…”
Shaunae didn’t really understand what he meant.
Eventually, Shaunae realised he was a decathlete and not a 400m runner.
“I was a little confused… [Initially I thought], ‘how did you get on the team?’
Maicel won an Olympic silver medal.
So if Khelif and team know he is male, and have undertaken actions to disguise that maleness (reducing testosterone levels on a post-pubertal male body 
) yet are now suing on the basis he “says” he is female- “identifies” as female then we are again dealing with the issues raised by trans “women” in women’s sport. That is the basis of his team thinking he is eligible to compete- ideology and identity over science and safety. And for me it is the IOC who should have prevented him competing. For the safety of the women competitors it should have been investigated as soon as concerns were raised. They either don’t care or are so captured they are deliberately complicit. Probably both.
) yet are now suing on the basis he “says” he is female- “identifies” as female then we are again dealing with the issues raised by trans “women” in women’s sport. That is the basis of his team thinking he is eligible to compete- ideology and identity over science and safety. And for me it is the IOC who should have prevented him competing. For the safety of the women competitors it should have been investigated as soon as concerns were raised. They either don’t care or are so captured they are deliberately complicit. Probably both.It's really strange that the coach was so forthcoming in that article. Do they really believe that he's a woman just a different type of woman or something? Why would they just admit to it?
People are stupid! People are really stupid!
The amount of unscientific balls I’ve seen spouted over social media this past couple of weeks has been astounding. Right down to it’s possible to have XY chromosomes and have a fully functioning female reproductive system.
So in summary
the IOC are applying ideology rather than science to who is a woman
Everyone knew, the athletes, the coaches, the IOC the IBA and the other competitors that the boxers were XY males with DAD and shouldn’t be eligible for female category.
The world has cheered on men punching women and awarded them for doing so. VAW now a sport.
Women who object to this have been gaslit by the world.
This is sickening.
the IOC are applying ideology rather than science to who is a woman
Everyone knew, the athletes, the coaches, the IOC the IBA and the other competitors that the boxers were XY males with DAD and shouldn’t be eligible for female category.
The world has cheered on men punching women and awarded them for doing so. VAW now a sport.
Women who object to this have been gaslit by the world.
This is sickening.
Man after man after man online who couldn’t give a mit about women’s sport celebrating this “victory”.
The push is for trans women in women’s sports and then for women’s sport to basically be irrelevant and not competitive on the world stage again.
The push is for trans women in women’s sports and then for women’s sport to basically be irrelevant and not competitive on the world stage again.
For anyone wanting a bit of hope:
The IOC have brazened their way through it supported by idiots in the media but Bach is going when he was expected to seek an extension to his term and more people are aware of what's going on. I'm not sure if that was rock bottom for women's sport but we must be pretty close to rock bottom and then things might start to improve. Hopefully Seb Coe will become IOC president too.
The IOC have brazened their way through it supported by idiots in the media but Bach is going when he was expected to seek an extension to his term and more people are aware of what's going on. I'm not sure if that was rock bottom for women's sport but we must be pretty close to rock bottom and then things might start to improve. Hopefully Seb Coe will become IOC president too.
It’s so interesting when you look at the people cheering and jeering this on. Men who hate women, handmaidens (who hate women), plus the Muslims supporting a fellow Muslim, the social justice obsessed lefties who’d support a Muslim no matter what… it’s fascinating
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Not sure if this has already been posted, but FFS
That photo of him is SO filtered it’s ridiculous
FWIW, I’m Muslim and don’t support this! (I acknowledge that this is a generalisation and you didn’t mean ALL Muslims.) If anything, Muslims must always be honest and this really bothers me as they are continuing to be dishonest about IK’s real sex.
New thread!
Gender Discussion #71
We flew threw the last two threads thanks to Thomas Bach, the IOC and the difficulty in defining the word 'woman.' Apparently people want to own the definition 🤔 As a woman I propose the definition be... *drumroll* ADULT HUMAN FEMALE 🤯 I know, I know. Take a deep breath, you may want to sit...
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