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Excruciating interview with Julia Hartley-Brewer and Andrew Boff, a CONSERVATIVE London Assembly Member - regarding Trans using Women's facilities.



He is another whom clearly doesn't grasp the basic facts.
What an absolute arrogant, patronising 🤬. Sick to death of men telling how we should feel.
 
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The breast check service is failing women without pandering to transvestites.

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That makes me angry, and makes me sick. In addition to the points made in the article re targets, waiting times etc, these fellas will be getting the check carried out by women, presumably. 🙄 I hope they squeeze their 'breasts' extra hard in the machine.
 
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You do know that she'll have gone home, got on Reddit and made a crybully angry post about how transphobic you are, right?

On a serious note tho that's the sad thing, is how small FtMs make the dating pool for themselves. Gay men don't want them. Lesbians don't want them. Straight women DEFINITELY don't want them. Some straight men might want to duck them, but not for the reasons they think, tragically. So they just end up in toxic or downright abusive 'dating' dynamics.

In many ways AGPs are the smarter ones because they usually wait until they're married and then bully their poor spouse into becoming a 'les' emotional support human. So they get to wear their fishnet tights and PVC basques, AND retain a wife to do all the housework. Winner!
And they wait til they’ve had kids so any hormone changes don’t affect conceiving. Unlike the poor teenagers who become infertile.
 
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Look how this young girl's experience of male violence is already being improved.


edit to add that the Judge was "troubled" by the event. Oh good.
That boy will be very lucky if the girl’s family don’t attack him, or worse. I would want to tear him apart if she was my kid or niece.
 
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That boy will be very lucky if the girl’s family don’t attack him, or worse. I would want to tear him apart if she was my kid or niece.
I said this elsewhere. I'm usually the sort of person who would say vigilante justice is a slippery slope, that the justice system exists for a reason and we should treat the people in it humanely etc. But... I actually don't know what you have to do to get a custodial sentence in the UK anymore. And if that girl was my daughter, that lad would be begging to see the inside of a cell rather than deal with me.
 
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Love that SP has some fellow nurses willing to speak about the similarly poor treatment they experienced from their union



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That makes me angry, and makes me sick. In addition to the points made in the article re targets, waiting times etc, these fellas will be getting the check carried out by women, presumably. 🙄 I hope they squeeze their 'breasts' extra hard in the machine.
Let 'em have it with both barrels!!! I bet after they have their first ever mammogram they won't be back for a second!
 
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That boy will be very lucky if the girl’s family don’t attack him, or worse. I would want to tear him apart if she was my kid or niece.
...and I'd bet my last dollar/pound the same judge would refuse you bail if you gave the piece of tit anything worse than a large lip or a black eye.
 
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He's got to 'slim down' before he gets his 'taco':

Why does he want a taco, I am a woman but I have a vulva, tina, and cervix. Not sure a taco is what makes a woman... 🤷🤔 Does he know tacos can be found in restaurants for a few dollars?
 
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Ever felt women are being groomed ?
This MP is going to improve the experience of grape - so gracious of her
They want us to accept grape at hands of the migrants, I fear. Because despite all the recent attacks still these unchecked men come in their droves.
 
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You do know that she'll have gone home, got on Reddit and made a crybully angry post about how transphobic you are, right?

On a serious note tho that's the sad thing, is how small FtMs make the dating pool for themselves. Gay men don't want them. Lesbians don't want them. Straight women DEFINITELY don't want them. Some straight men might want to duck them, but not for the reasons they think, tragically. So they just end up in toxic or downright abusive 'dating' dynamics.

In many ways AGPs are the smarter ones because they usually wait until they're married and then bully their poor spouse into becoming a 'les' emotional support human. So they get to wear their fishnet tights and PVC basques, AND retain a wife to do all the housework. Winner!
Good point about the AGPs. They wait until they get their family/work/social network all set and nice (aka their privileges set up) and then reap the reward of trapping their family/friends/colleagues into being their support. Often the TIFS do down the route in late teens and early 20s before they achieve work goals/friendship circle etc and find themselves isolated, depressed and unlikely to achieve their career goals or find someone to date.

I was eavesdropping on a colleague from another team in our open plan office talking about her husband (they have a late teen kid together) and it sounds like the husband is into cross dressing! 👀 And she sounded supportive of him. Not sure if I heard the word 'transitioned' or not coz my hearing is tit and I was sort of sat the other side of the office but my mind was like 🤯🤯🤯🤯

She has been here a year so I don't know much about her but she seems tired and low in general but she also does Scout Leading and camps in her spare time so I think she's a busy person. But I can also imagine she might be trapped with a cross dresser and pretending everything is fiiiiiiiine 😬

It's happening amongst us.

It used to be that p*rn was about men bleeping women or men, and women bleeping men or women (porn not great at all, but you know what I mean ,biologically driven desire within a 'normal' level of sleeze expected of men), but with overuse and increasing pushing of boundaries we're at the point where men grow up on it and brazenly dress as a clown version of women to get off, and yet use that new found 'power' against women. They get fawned on at work and special dispensation for wearing mask or costume, whereas we get leapfrogged for promotions, we get called emotional and to get on with our work and now we have to see men in our bathrooms.
 
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Yes, I am also surprised this was coming from a Conservative. They've generally been the more sensible in this whole issue.
He'll be one of those with a relative or close friend who is 'trans', I bet. Like Mordent or whatever her name is.
 
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Excruciating interview with Julia Hartley-Brewer and Andrew Boff, a CONSERVATIVE London Assembly Member - regarding Trans using Women's facilities.



He is another whom clearly doesn't grasp the basic facts.
Boff is one of those misogynistic gay men (cut from the same cloth as Michael Cashman) who has decided that ‘trans’ people in the UK are oppressed in exactly the same way that gay people were with regard to rights. He doesn’t seems to realise that ‘trans’ people already have the same rights as the rest of the population and he certainly doesn’t care about upholding the rights of women to single sex spaces. He has also sought to get the Conservative nomination to run for mayor of London 6 times - thank God he hasn’t succeeded.

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Good point about the AGPs. They wait until they get their family/work/social network all set and nice (aka their privileges set up) and then reap the reward of trapping their family/friends/colleagues into being their support. Often the TIFS do down the route in late teens and early 20s before they achieve work goals/friendship circle etc and find themselves isolated, depressed and unlikely to achieve their career goals or find someone to date.

I was eavesdropping on a colleague from another team in our open plan office talking about her husband (they have a late teen kid together) and it sounds like the husband is into cross dressing! 👀 And she sounded supportive of him. Not sure if I heard the word 'transitioned' or not coz my hearing is tit and I was sort of sat the other side of the office but my mind was like 🤯🤯🤯🤯

She has been here a year so I don't know much about her but she seems tired and low in general but she also does Scout Leading and camps in her spare time so I think she's a busy person. But I can also imagine she might be trapped with a cross dresser and pretending everything is fiiiiiiiine 😬

It's happening amongst us.

It used to be that p*rn was about men bleeping women or men, and women bleeping men or women (porn not great at all, but you know what I mean ,biologically driven desire within a 'normal' level of sleeze expected of men), but with overuse and increasing pushing of boundaries we're at the point where men grow up on it and brazenly dress as a clown version of women to get off, and yet use that new found 'power' against women. They get fawned on at work and special dispensation for wearing mask or costume, whereas we get leapfrogged for promotions, we get called emotional and to get on with our work and now we have to see men in our bathrooms.
Yes you're bang on. Abigail Shrier has written about this (following Lisa Littman) but the pathways for MtFs and FtMs are so different, in terms of driving factors, age, social status etc, that it's very misleading to even class them under the same unbrella. Basically I see FtM as driven by mental illness/vulnerability and MtF as driven by fetish/abuse fetish.

Re your last paragraph, I feel strongly that men have weaponised fourth wave choice feminism against women. In that the tenets of the third and forth wave (choice feminism, hypercapitalism feminism, sex positivity - a euphemism for promiscuity and pro-porn - and gender fluidity) are presented as girlboss feminism strong women yay, but actually, in the practice, exploit and demean women.

The idea that men and women are basically exactly the same physically, psychologically and in preferences and behaviours, is a lie. We are not. When I was in my 20s I could kid myself we were, and I was a communist at the time and their thing is exactly that. But childbirth, child rearing, domestic abuse, the experience of aging as a woman - reality came up and slapped me upside the head numerous times.

Men and women are not the same! The first and second wavers KNEW this and argued for our rights and freedoms for the SPECIFIC SEX CLASS THAT WE ARE. But the fourth wave in particular denies this reality and thus female causes are being severely regressed.

I could pop a conspiracy hat on and say fourth wave feminism was invented by men, but that'd only be partially true. Many prominent pop feminists embraced it. Yeah, we did this to ourselves to a great extent. There's a lot of so-called feminists active today who are disgusted by the second wavers and would never dream of reading Andrea Dworkin because she was vehemently anti-porn and also she was, urgh, so large and weird, darling!

Basically I'm saying to young women, throw Judith Butler, Caitlin Moran and Laurie Penny in the bin and read you some Dworkin, sister
 
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The fact that they had the laws around primogeniture (where the eldest male inherits the estate/title) excluded from the gender recognition act shows that even the people who lobbied for it don’t believe humans can actually change sex
 
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