Gender Discussion #108

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Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminist. I wonder if it was a man who indulges in paid grape/pornography usage who came up with that one. Feminists are framed as the problem, not the pimps.

Get tae.
I had to google that to understand what it means. Sex workers prostitutes provide a service that only men would want and there's not many women who would choose it as a career if there was a viable alternative.
While I see women as the victims here I'm not entirely on board with this reframing of the profession to make it sound like it's less sleazy.
Another manipulation of language to try and make it sound more acceptable.
 
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How depressing, the French Open winner has been accused of domestic violence by several former partners but was able to just negotiate a settlement with the State and be let off without a criminal record


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First allegation of domestic abuse

In October 2020, Zverev's ex-girlfriend Olga Sharypova, in an article in Racquet magazine by journalist Ben Rothenberg, accused Zverev of physically and emotionally abusing her over the course of their relationship.[398] Sharypova named multiple instances where Zverev allegedly became violent towards her, including punching her in the face during an argument that took place in the pair's hotel room while Zverev was competing at the 2019 Laver Cup.[399] Zverev denied the allegations and issued a statement after Sharypova's initial accusations: "I very much regret that she makes such statements. Because the accusations are simply not true."[400]

A second article by Rothenberg about the allegations was released in August 2021, this time in Slate magazine. The second article picked up Sharypova's story where the first left off. It includes this description of the alleged violence escalating in October 2019:


Sharypova said she went to take a shower, during which Zverev continued berating her from outside the bathroom door. "When I got out of the shower, I was starting to take a towel and he came and said, 'Pack your stuff right now and leave,'" Sharypova recalled. "I'm just like, 'OK, can you wait a few minutes please? I'm naked here.'" From there, Sharypova said, Zverev attacked her more violently than he ever had before. She said that he grabbed her by the throat and pushed her up against the hard tile wall of the bathroom. "He started to punch me, and this time I understand that I can't be dough for punching," she said.[401]
Rothenberg reports that "Sharypova has repeatedly said that she is not interested in pursuing criminal or civil action against Zverev." She told Rothenberg she wanted to be open and honest to help other women who tend to stay silent in such situations due to fear of not being believed.[401]

Zverev secured an injunction from a Berlin court against Slate later in August 2021, barring it from publishing the assault allegations without stronger evidence. In response, Slate stated that it stands by the reporting in the article and has not removed the article from its website. They protested that the injunction was obtained without the organization having an opportunity to present evidence, and they appealed the decision.[402] Commentator Mary Carillo stepped down from her presenting role at the 2021 Laver Cup in response to the ATP's handling of the allegations.[403][404][405]

Following a 15-month ATP-commissioned investigation conducted by The Lake Forest Group (a third-party consultant working with the ATP's outside legal counsel, Smith Hulsey & Busey), the ATP announced in late January 2023 that they will not punish Zverev due to insufficient evidence to substantiate the allegations.[406]


Second allegation of domestic abuse

About six months after the ATP declined to take action against Zverev, in July 2023, allegations from a second woman became public through a court filing. A penalty order in a Berlin criminal court was requested over alleged bodily harm against Brenda Patea, Zverev's ex-girlfriend and the mother of his daughter.[418] On 2 October 2023, the court issued a penalty order against Zverev for "physically abusing and damaging the health of a woman during an argument in Berlin in May 2020". The order included a fine of €450,000.[419][420] Zverev lodged an appeal against the order which, under German law, results in a public trial.[420][421]

Patea spoke publicly for the first time about the alleged abuse on 1 November 2023 in an interview with the Süddeutsche Zeitung. She said that during a dispute in May 2020, Zverev pushed her into a wall and choked her.[422]

In January 2024, Zverev was appointed to serve on the ATP Players Advisory Council. The ATP has been criticized for allowing him to serve on the council while the domestic abuse charge is pending in a criminal court.[423][424] Also in January 2024, Zverev was featured on the second season of the Netflix series Break Point in an episode focused on his comeback from injury. Netflix was criticized for ignoring both allegations of domestic abuse. One columnist argued that "Break Point promised to take viewers behind the curtain of professional tennis and reveal the personalities behind it. That promise is null and void if Zverev – and the media – isn't willing to be honest."[425]

At the beginning of the 2024 Australian Open, a court official announced that Zverev was scheduled to face trial in the Berlin Criminal Court, beginning in May 2024.[426][427] The timing of the announcement, combined with Zverev's semifinal run at the tournament, brought heightened interest in and scrutiny of the allegations from both the press and the public.[428][429][430] The trial began on 31 May 2024.[431]

On 7 June 2024, the trial was terminated when the judge dropped all charges, since a settlement had been reached out-of-court and both parties had resolved their dispute. The former couple wanted to end their public feud and "look forward", especially in regard to the joint custody of their child. Zverev agreed to voluntarily pay €200,000, of which €150,000 would go to the German State Treasury and €50,000 to charitable organizations. The settlement did not include an admission of guilt by Zverev,[432][433] and the legal procedure concluded without any criminal record. The original €450,000 penalty order which had been issued to Zverev was also terminated.[434]"
 
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He remembers a trans couple who approached him at a book signing and told him they were scared to leave their house.

Hmmm.
Probably best if they stay at home - after all, aren't they all going to literally die if they're not allowed to use women's toilets when out and about? Safer all round if they stay near to their home toilet. We can't have an epidemic of dead trans folk cluttering up toilets at work and elsewhere. I've only got their best interests at heart. Honest.....😇
 
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How depressing, the French Open winner has been accused of domestic violence by several former partners but was able to just negotiate a settlement with the State and be let off without a criminal record


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First allegation of domestic abuse

In October 2020, Zverev's ex-girlfriend Olga Sharypova, in an article in Racquet magazine by journalist Ben Rothenberg, accused Zverev of physically and emotionally abusing her over the course of their relationship.[398] Sharypova named multiple instances where Zverev allegedly became violent towards her, including punching her in the face during an argument that took place in the pair's hotel room while Zverev was competing at the 2019 Laver Cup.[399] Zverev denied the allegations and issued a statement after Sharypova's initial accusations: "I very much regret that she makes such statements. Because the accusations are simply not true."[400]

A second article by Rothenberg about the allegations was released in August 2021, this time in Slate magazine. The second article picked up Sharypova's story where the first left off. It includes this description of the alleged violence escalating in October 2019:




Rothenberg reports that "Sharypova has repeatedly said that she is not interested in pursuing criminal or civil action against Zverev." She told Rothenberg she wanted to be open and honest to help other women who tend to stay silent in such situations due to fear of not being believed.[401]

Zverev secured an injunction from a Berlin court against Slate later in August 2021, barring it from publishing the assault allegations without stronger evidence. In response, Slate stated that it stands by the reporting in the article and has not removed the article from its website. They protested that the injunction was obtained without the organization having an opportunity to present evidence, and they appealed the decision.[402] Commentator Mary Carillo stepped down from her presenting role at the 2021 Laver Cup in response to the ATP's handling of the allegations.[403][404][405]

Following a 15-month ATP-commissioned investigation conducted by The Lake Forest Group (a third-party consultant working with the ATP's outside legal counsel, Smith Hulsey & Busey), the ATP announced in late January 2023 that they will not punish Zverev due to insufficient evidence to substantiate the allegations.[406]


Second allegation of domestic abuse

About six months after the ATP declined to take action against Zverev, in July 2023, allegations from a second woman became public through a court filing. A penalty order in a Berlin criminal court was requested over alleged bodily harm against Brenda Patea, Zverev's ex-girlfriend and the mother of his daughter.[418] On 2 October 2023, the court issued a penalty order against Zverev for "physically abusing and damaging the health of a woman during an argument in Berlin in May 2020". The order included a fine of €450,000.[419][420] Zverev lodged an appeal against the order which, under German law, results in a public trial.[420][421]

Patea spoke publicly for the first time about the alleged abuse on 1 November 2023 in an interview with the Süddeutsche Zeitung. She said that during a dispute in May 2020, Zverev pushed her into a wall and choked her.[422]

In January 2024, Zverev was appointed to serve on the ATP Players Advisory Council. The ATP has been criticized for allowing him to serve on the council while the domestic abuse charge is pending in a criminal court.[423][424] Also in January 2024, Zverev was featured on the second season of the Netflix series Break Point in an episode focused on his comeback from injury. Netflix was criticized for ignoring both allegations of domestic abuse. One columnist argued that "Break Point promised to take viewers behind the curtain of professional tennis and reveal the personalities behind it. That promise is null and void if Zverev – and the media – isn't willing to be honest."[425]

At the beginning of the 2024 Australian Open, a court official announced that Zverev was scheduled to face trial in the Berlin Criminal Court, beginning in May 2024.[426][427] The timing of the announcement, combined with Zverev's semifinal run at the tournament, brought heightened interest in and scrutiny of the allegations from both the press and the public.[428][429][430] The trial began on 31 May 2024.[431]

On 7 June 2024, the trial was terminated when the judge dropped all charges, since a settlement had been reached out-of-court and both parties had resolved their dispute. The former couple wanted to end their public feud and "look forward", especially in regard to the joint custody of their child. Zverev agreed to voluntarily pay €200,000, of which €150,000 would go to the German State Treasury and €50,000 to charitable organizations. The settlement did not include an admission of guilt by Zverev,[432][433] and the legal procedure concluded without any criminal record. The original €450,000 penalty order which had been issued to Zverev was also terminated.[434]"
Bloody hell! I'd recorded the end of the 5th set and was avoiding the tennis thread!
 
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How is this still happening? Has academia learned nothing from Kathleen Stock's horrific abuse and bullying?
Oh surprise, surprise. As soon as someone doesn’t agree with their single minded narrative they bring out the insults and slurs. I really despise them.
They like to tell women what a woman is (we know we were born one) and how it feels to be a woman (we know we’ve always been one). But as soon as we mention being a woman, lord do they kick up a stink.
 
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If anyone is looking for something to fill in their time on 20th June, I suggest going to Edinburgh is possibly not the best idea.
Yes, I can well imagine the scene. Hateful placards inciting violence to women, septum piercings, weird coloured hair, walking sticks and men dressed as their own sexual fantasy.
Did someone ask chatgpt to generate the most stereotypical, cliche-riddled poster for a TRA event as possible? 😂
 
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Good God! 😮

I think I've passed Himdia in the Bigg Market and thought he was just some old tramp.
I'm sorry you must be mistaken, number one India is a beautiful biological woman (incidentally she is much more of a lady than you) and number two he is not allowed to leave his car.
 
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Sunday evening 'Spot the Difference' game

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Some of those fake pics, crikey, imagine the number of employers or event hosts that have hired based on the fake photo and then grimmaced as the real deal walks in...like a wolf who has eaten grandma and is now wearing her wig and clothes 🤢

Himdia looks like the type that when they walk towards you, you cross the street because you know they are going to be an a.
 
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